Bonen no Max'd
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Arizona was closer than North Carolina last year, the idea that it is unwinnable is absurd.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Aaron Strife
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Does anyone remember what happened in the last special election vacated by a senator who died from brain cancer in the midst of controversial healthcare legislation in a state that was widely considered safe for the incumbent party?
Anyone? Anyone?
Scott Brown 2012! He's gonna do it!
skullmuffins
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Yeah. Flake only won by 3 points; we were already looking at his seat as a potential pickup. McCain dominated in his 2016 election, but he was an institution and got a huge incumbency bonus. I wouldn't rule out a Dem in a wave.
BoogieWoogie
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Trump fires Sessions and he has a clearer path to fire Mueller....but Sessions would be gone and he may flip on Trump...
whyamihere
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It's ridiculous.
Kirkpatrick, Sinema, and Mark Kelly need to have a Newsom/Kamala sit down and all pick what they want to do.
Yes. I think so. It might just be the breaking point
UberTag
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Can't we just safely assume that anyone vying for that job is already compromised?
Bonen no Max'd
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the only downside to trying to pick this seat up is that Raul Grijalva is way too old
RumbleHumble
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He fires Sessions, Congressional Intel Orgs hire Mueller as special prosecutor answerable to them rather than the DOJ. It's too hot to go away now.
Looks like Trump has scheduled a vacation at his Bedminster, NJ place from August 3rd to August 20th.
If I'm seeing the info right, that starts nearly a week and a half before the now-delayed August recess would begin.
So much for the "we" in Trump's "we shouldn't leave town until this is complete."
If I'm seeing the info right, that starts nearly a week and a half before the now-delayed August recess would begin.
So much for the "we" in Trump's "we shouldn't leave town until this is complete."
BoogieWoogie
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skullmuffins
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I know Schiff has said they'd do this, but could they even bring Mueller back, since presumably firing the Special Counsel could also be an act of obstruction that would become part of the investigation?
StopMakingSense
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Sessions and/or Priebus feel like the canaries in the coal mine for the GOP. Either of them goes I expect a hard turn on Trump.
Yes. Firing the special prosecutor would be an immediate obstruction of justice charge in a sane world.
Dubbedinenglish
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2 and a half weeks paid vacation, weekends off golfing. Man the Presidency is a good gig!
ErasureAcer
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Has Arizona restored their voting rolls after the Russian purge?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I am predicting now that Trump will fire Sessions before the end of September. It is so clearly on his mind, he can't help but talk about Sessions during any and all interviews, and I think the only thing stopping him are his aides telling him it would be a disastrous move. But he only listens to people's advice for so long. Eventually his impulse will take over. Sessions is gonna be fired or he will proactively resign by the end of September.
whyamihere
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And I don't see Gallego giving up his seat since he's probably on the House Leadership track.
RumbleHumble
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Only if they planned to include Mueller as a witness. So long as Mueller isn't called to testify (which he wouldn't be), then theoretically he'd be in the clear to continue.
Beer Monkey
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Sessions may resign by the end of the week. That would be the normal response.
Watching TV half the day for four days then playing golf for three is exhausting.
What would he have to lose?
Host Samurai
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Fuck Sessions. The quicker he gets fired or resigns the better
Dubbedinenglish
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Anyone else find it a strange coincidence (🤔
that Red Don has stopped going to FLA and Melania moved from NY after Mueller was appointed....
that Red Don has stopped going to FLA and Melania moved from NY after Mueller was appointed....KirbYuuYuu
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Especially with the recent news.
Anyone else find it a strange coincidence (🤔
FLA is really hot right now I would assume?
skullmuffins
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Yes. Mar-a-Lago actually closes during the summer.
Autodidact
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The "Sessions will flip" talk probably stems from the fact that he looks like a vindictive little weasel.
God, if he resigned a Senate seat to be Attorney general but gets fired six months in...
God, if he resigned a Senate seat to be Attorney general but gets fired six months in...
skullmuffins
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Imagine Sessions quitting or getting fired and then running in the special election for the seat he just vacated.
GoldenEye 007
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He's from Alabama, right? He'd win in a landslide!
Oh yes. Very.
It would be a kick in the gut. He wouldn't let it slide.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
They all do...
Futurevoid
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Kobach is running for KS governor. He's not giving that up for a post that will put him in legal jeapordy with this corrupt admin and to go through a senate confirmation fight that will be extremely rough and will air all of his dirty shit. He's only now getting the national spotlight with the election commission garbage.
I don't think he wins the Governorship either. He's running on continuing Brownback's horrid tax cuts and policies and I think Kansans (including Kansas R's) are about done with that shit.
Aaron Strife
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Telling you man, don't sleep on Greg Stanton. He could run for governor I suppose.
I could see this encouraging Kelly to take that leap. Don't forget that McCain voted for gun control.
Prof. Bathtub
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I was thinking yesterday that we'd gone a while without an "Is [Admin Official X] Losing Favor?" story. Dumb palace intrigue, but luckily the details in the interview are outrageous enough, it wasn't just because he didn't like the media presence of Mr. Jefferson Beauregard Stonewall Lee Forrest Bragg Longstreet Booth Simmons Griffith Sessions VIII.
In the hypothetical situation that Mueller is shutdown and the congressional investigations are sandbagged by the GOP (all of which seems distressingly possible, if not outright likely, given how the GOP has behaved since the election), there's still the NY AG investigation he and the GOP can't touch, right? But that's strictly limited to investigation into the Trumps' finances and wouldn't get into Russia tampering with the election?
RustyNails
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Same. He's been a fixture of Congress all of my lifetime. I can't imagine it without him.
Futurevoid
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If Mueller is fired - we're in pure 100% Watergate meltdown. He can try to fire everyone else afterwards, but if he goes through with firing Mueller, his presidency is over. It's a matter of time at that point, IMO. I legit believe that snd I believe even the GOP will run for the hills.
Autodidact
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Yes. Schneiderman would likely focus on the finances but wouldn't be directly investigating the election meddling.
However, there's also this lawsuit floating around. If it reaches the discovery phase, as Ben Wittes (Comey's friend and the source for some recent stories) believes it will, the plaintiffs' attorneys will be able to comb through Trump's business, including his tax returns. And the whole affair would be overseen by a judge not in any way beholden to Trump. It would be a backdoor independent commission, albeit only through the lens of the plaintiffs' case, but we'd get some juicy bits from it.
Dubbedinenglish
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Firing Mueller won't be a one time thing, he'll have to go through a bunch of people at the DoJ first
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