Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh come on. No reasonable person believes that ever would have happened.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Oh come on. No reasonable person believes that ever would have happened.
This is terrible
Thunder Monkey
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Pretty sure that's exactly what they said Plinko.
jack_package_200
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Those "The Democrats are doomed/Panicking" articles that keep getting posted in OT are exhausting.
I guess this is getting serious
I guess this is getting serious
On a large scale, no. Guerrilla warfare pockets, yes. It doesn't take that many people to terrorist a nation.
Also, no reasonable person would believe in Pizzagate, but plenty do. Enough that someone to his gun and tried to solve it himself.
excelsiorlef
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My fav was some dude claiming Obama is a Nixon era Republican...
Im skimming and the article seems to be missing the biggest issue: that after she got the loans and after the school was dying, she was sending funds to a family members woodworking school via the college. It's what turns this from mismanagement to something that gets an investigation.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
That Washington Post article is a fantastic read.
balladofwindfishes
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It's not, but the way they wiggle around that to allow insurers to reduce essential health benefits. That is how they're hoping to allow companies to control premium costs without saying "kick for preexisting conditions".
So he is saying Comey was honest about their meetings after all
smokeandmirrors
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Hey no one was gonna do it I had to
A Serious Man
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Changed his story from what? He's suggesting his tweet forced Comey to be honest but the story Comey gave after believing their might be tapes paints Trump as a liar and a criminal. Trump is so short-sighted and so stupid that, in an attempt to make his moronic tapes tweet seem like a stroke of genius, he admits to intimidating a witness into giving accurate testimony that Trump committed obstruction of justice. 4 fucking D fucking Chess.
balladofwindfishes
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Oh
This is probably why you don't repeal a law that took a year and a half with a law that took 3 weeks.
StrangerInTheAlps
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It's hard to tell what Republicans are thinking at this point, but it's possible that might be what they are after. They know that removing coverage requirements for pre-existing conditions would be massively unpopular, so they set up a situation in which further rising healthcare premiums give them "no choice" but the remove the clause to save the insurance market. People will praise them because no one will remember shit by the time it happens.
They don't give a shit. They want to "repeal and replace Obamacare" so they can give tax cuts to their ultra wealthy donors.
benicillin
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I honestly have lost all ability to understand the motives of the GOP beyond the conclusion that they expect to rig elections to be in power forever and assign every member secret service goons to protect them.
balladofwindfishes
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But some of their ultra wealthy donors are from insurance companies that don't want this bill and whose business might see significant issues going forward.
This seems more passed out of spite because of Obama. They're laser focused on destroying the first black president's legacy, and if that means blowing up the entire country, so be it.
So many of them have been complicit in what has been going on. Very few have spoken out.
(People only care about the short term.)
And this too.
I think he's saying it made Comey say that he told him he wasn't under investigation 3 times, although I don't think Comey had ever said anything publicly about that.
balladofwindfishes
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I have to imagine this will be the kick in the pants the huge blue states need to get their own state run healthcare up and running.
I'd really love to have New York Care, and I know it's working its way through the government.
Just one state needs a success story and the rest can follow. Maybe work between them to get better rates.
I'd really love to have New York Care, and I know it's working its way through the government.
Just one state needs a success story and the rest can follow. Maybe work between them to get better rates.
So who the fuck is this helping? Of that's right the rich! Duh.
But the mandate is gone! I save so much!
Wait I have cancer now...how much is this going to cost? Is that 1000 dollar tax break going to be enough?
balladofwindfishes
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I'm trying to figure out where they're even going to find premium lowering stuff in this bill.
At least the House bill pretended to lower premiums (by killing the sick). This just seems so poorly designed, it doesn't even have the fake premium savings stuff in it.
It ends up just being "Repeal Medicaid for tax cuts on the rich, oh yea, and crash the entire health industry"
At least the House bill pretended to lower premiums (by killing the sick). This just seems so poorly designed, it doesn't even have the fake premium savings stuff in it.
It ends up just being "Repeal Medicaid for tax cuts on the rich, oh yea, and crash the entire health industry"
This could be the push to get California Care (SB 562) over the finish line. It's in the State Assembly after passing the State Senate.
But Trump told me he would keep Medicaid!
Or was that social security? When is that getting the axe?
balladofwindfishes
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I think Cuomocare or New York Care or whatever it's call is in a similar spot.
GoldenEye 007
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Requires federal approval to mess with Medicare/aid funds, though. At least the California one does.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This part of the new bill is insane:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but isn't this clause going to be a complete disaster?
The idea that an "armed revolt" would get ANYWHERE in our heavily policed country today is ridiculous.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but isn't this clause going to be a complete disaster?
The idea that an "armed revolt" would get ANYWHERE in our heavily policed country today is ridiculous.
Yup. I wonder if that's an issue the California Assembly is discussing internally.
Did you forget Malheur National Wildlife Refuge takeover?
Revolt doesn't mean a successful take over. Perhaps I should have said civil unrest?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It's much more likely that Obama held back because he thought it would make Hillary's life harder when she won. Republicans already had plans to constantly investigate her, and this would have made it seem shady. That's all.
He still screwed up. I love Obama and wish he'd be the figurehead of the party from this point forward, but he screwed this up.
He has no option? I don't understand why people keep saying that Obama fucked up given what the republicans did. Mitch McConnell told Obama to his face threat if he started talking about Russia and election manipulation he would walk onto the White House lawn and tell the press Obama was interfering in an election in an unprecedented way to make his candidate win. They had the largest media agencies in the country ready to tell the entire republican base that the god-king president Obama was trying to steal an election.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Mitch McConnell. He put party loyalty above country in a way very few people have ever done. I
benicillin
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Whatever day it happens on I hope it isn't the same day as the CBO score. That needs all the air time it can get.
Mitch McConnell being a jackass is no excuse for Obama being a pushover, to be honest. They could have vilified Obama all they want, but if he'd told us then we'd have all the information we have now without the White House feverishly trying to cover it up. Like I would have rather dealt with a GOP actively undermining the investigation and blaming Obama and calling it a rigged investigation over the GOP plus the White House actively undermining the investigation and blaming the Democrats and calling it a rigged investigation.
(aka he doesn't know when the article he helped source is actually being published)
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Blame Mitch McConnell? What? Obama had the information and knew a foreign government was openly influencing the election. As a Commander in Chief, you absolutely need to let the public know it is happening. It was a tactical error. I can guarantee you he knows this and it bothers him every single day that he didn't.
*reads about changes for those with pre-existing conditions*
You are SO fucked if you have a GOP governor.
Furthermore this is going to really hurt the overall health insurance market. It can't be a free for all, just let red states open up a Pandora's box, consequences be damned situation. This is abhorrent.
IamDodongo
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Yes!!
Yup, he did screw up. No argument here.
I'm saying, he did have good reasons to pause. Like I said, we have evidence coming out every day and people still don't take the Russian interference seriously.
Imagine if he came out with it last summer, without massive proof, in this political environment? It would be right thing to do, but would not have been pretty.
It why it was such a perfect play on Russia's part. There was no good way for Obama to do his job in our political environment.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Notice the timing--immediately after Trump tries to make it look like he pulled one over on Comey on Fox and Friends.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
So today or Monday something is dropping. This is gonna be big.
Comey has Trump by the balls.
Comey has Trump by the balls.
Roland_Gunner
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Its going to wreck overall health care for anyone who doesn't live in an urban or affluent area. Tons of facilities depend on Medicaid dollars to stay profitable. You are going to see offices close in rural areas across the country. I'm honestly stunned that Republicans in places like Kentucky and West Virginia are willing to fuck over their voters like this.
Here's just one example, in the entire south over half of births are funded by medicaid. We're going to see this everywhere:
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balladofwindfishes
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Does Hawaii not have Medicaid?
RustyNails
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The "no drama Obama" part of him was something I did not really like. He should have been Angry Obama (that Peele guy) in so many places but instead he was way too rational and scholastic. He was worried about "faith in the Democratic systems" when Trump was out there screaming riiiggged. Its also onw of the reasons Obamacare flopped with the public. He thought that people will see its benefits and it will be success story.
Imagine Trump passing something as gargantuan as ACA.
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