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[pigeon]

Employers and employees should be allowed to talk about their political affiliation and the reasons behind why they do.

I think that this has basically the same problem as sexual harassment, frankly. You can't pretend that it's an equal relationship, because it isn't. When we start doing something about wage-slavery, I won't worry about the capacity of employers to apply pressure, but we seem to be a ways from that.

If I find out that a person was explicitly fired for their decision in the voting booth then I'll have a problem.

Is this really your standard? Because, again, there's a reason we use more stringent expectations to identify racism and sexism than "explicitly fired for it."

 

[Angry Grimace]

Employers and employees should be allowed to talk about their political affiliation and the reasons behind why they do. Some are only able to talk while others can send out documents.

If I find out that a person was explicitly fired for their decision in the voting booth then I'll have a problem. Until then, the doc could easily be tossed in the garbage/recycle bin.

The employment relationship isn't the same as some random guy giving you a document.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Want to hear a secret? I think Obama will probably win.

hold up. This is not what you told me in PMs last week. Explain your change!

 

[eBay Huckster]

diablos wants polls of CA

poll DC, i don't know if it's safe anymore

 

[RiccochetJ]

An employer sending out a voting guide to employees is undue pressure and harassment. I don't like it and I'm not sure it's completely legal

Again, who is going to know once you're in the booth? He should be free to express his opinion and you should be allowed to be free to completely ignore it.

I should state that any employer trying to find out how you voted is wrong and there should be jail time involved.

Edit: Piss off with the sexual harassment comparison.

 

[BotoxAgent]

Triumph!!

 

[AniHawk]

I didn't know ARG put out an OH poll today

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/OH12-3.html

49-47 Obama

lots of 2-point leads in ohio. seems to be a trend. matches the averages in 538, tpm, and rcp pretty well.

 

[Cheebo]

hold up. This is not what you told me in PMs last week. Explain your change!

Polling looking a bit better this week in the swing states than I was expecting, expected Romney to gain more. If the situation doesn't change and remains as is by the end of next week I think Obama will win. Although I am going to regret saying this. Because every time I do something bad always happens, I have some sort of curse which makes me want to avoid getting cocky about Obama's chances.

I supported Obama from day 1 in the 2008 primaries but was resigned to the fact Hillary would win because I didn't want to work myself and get dissapointed, even in the lead up to Iowa. When he won Iowa I completley went full on believing Obama would win then NH happened.

I was down again in 2011/most of 2012 to not let myself get let down until late September when I went full on Obama would win in a near landslide winning every state he won in 2008 except Indiana. Then the first debate happened.

 

[pigeon]

Polling looking a bit better this week in the swing states than I was expecting, expected Romney to gain more. If the situation doesn't change and remains as is by the end of next week I think Obama will win. Although I am going to regret saying this. Because every time I do something bad always happens, I have some sort of curse which makes me want to avoid getting cocky about Obama's chances.

I supported Obama from day 1 in the 2008 primaries but was resigned to the fact Hillary would win because I didn't want to work myself and get dissapointed, even in the lead up to Iowa. When he won Iowa I completley went full on believing Obama would win then NH happened.

I was down again in 2011/most of 2012 to let myself get let down until late September when I went full on Obama would win in a near landslide winning every state he won in 2008 except Indiana. Then the first debate happened.

So, what you're saying is, you were right every time.

 

[Y2Kev]

lots of 2-point leads in ohio. seems to be a trend. matches the averages in 538, tpm, and rcp pretty well.

This is arg. That's like a 10 pt lead.

 

[Clevinger]

Polling looking a bit better this week in the swing states than I was expecting, expected Romney to gain more. If the situation doesn't change and remains as is by the end of next week I think Obama will win. Although I am going to regret saying this. Because every time I do something bad always happens, I have some sort of curse which makes me want to avoid getting cocky about Obama's chances.

I supported Obama from day 1 in the 2008 primaries but was resigned to the fact Hillary would win because I didn't want to work myself and get dissapointed, even in the lead up to Iowa. When he won Iowa I completley went full on believing Obama would win then NH happened.

I was down again in 2011/most of 2012 to not let myself get let down until late September when I went full on Obama would win in a near landslide winning every state he won in 2008 except Indiana. Then the first debate happened.

go away, jinxer

shoo

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

hold up. This is not what you told me in PMs last week. Explain your change!

So there's poligaf PMing? This thread isn't insular enough? lol

 

[Cheebo]

So, what you're saying is, you were right every time.

More like Obama likes to shoot himself in the foot whenever I let myself get confident about his chances.

So there's poligaf PMing? This thread isn't insular enough? lol

PD and I have been talking politics long before the 2008 election and PoliGAF existed.

 

[BertramCooper]

My EC prediction, for what it's worth. (Not much.)

It probably falls on the pessimistic side. I think it could end up being quite a bit wider.

 

[apana]

Ohio, Colorado, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire are the most important states right now. That is where this battle is going to play out. If anyone has info on the state of the race in those states beyond just another poll it would be useful. Wisconsin has early voting right?

 

[pigeon]

More like Obama likes to shoot himself in the foot whenever I let myself get confident about his chances.

He really fucked himself over in 2008, all right!

 

[eBay Huckster]

still sticking with 347-191

IF I'M NOT BALLSY, WHO WILL BE

 

[The Lamonster]

My EC prediction, for what it's worth. (Not much.)

It probably falls on the pessimistic side. I think it could end up being quite a bit wider.

This is basically mine as well

 

[PhoenixDark]

I liked Obama in 2004, but moved on to more mature things in 2007/2008. But Hillary lost my support during the Ohio primary where her campaign went full blown crazy/semi racist (spreading pics of Obama in Muslim garb). After that I was neutral, then kind of jumped on the Obama bandwagon for the general election.

 

[pigeon]

My EC projection.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I liked Obama in 2004, but moved on to more mature things in 2007/2008. But Hillary lost my support during the Ohio primary where her campaign went full blown crazy/semi racist (spreading pics of Obama in Muslim garb). After that I was neutral, then kind of jumped on the Obama bandwagon for the general election.

And now you're on the Romney bandwagon.

 

[Clevinger]

I liked Obama in 2004, but moved on to more mature things in 2007/2008.

oh my lord

My EC projection.

That's how a sane country would react to Romney's 47% remarks.

 

[Cheebo]

I liked Obama in 2004, but moved on to more mature things in 2007/2008. But Hillary lost my support during the Ohio primary where her campaign went full blown crazy/semi racist (spreading pics of Obama in Muslim garb). After that I was neutral, then kind of jumped on the Obama bandwagon for the general election.

I was a different type of Obama supporter than most at the time. I really liked Hillary, I was fully on board Obama but thought Hillary would have been a great President (and still do). So of course PoliGAF claimed I was in the tank for Hillary. It wasn't till Ohio and she went nuts that I became a lot more partisan as well. It is still hard to believe how insane her campaign got at the time. And the secret muslim shit Mark Penn and the rest started still haunts Obama to some degree.

 

[pigeon]

Edit: Piss off with the sexual harassment comparison.

This is not a super compelling retort.

 

[Y2Kev]

I liked Obama in 2004, but moved on to more mature things in 2007/2008. But Hillary lost my support during the Ohio primary where her campaign went full blown crazy/semi racist (spreading pics of Obama in Muslim garb). After that I was neutral, then kind of jumped on the Obama bandwagon for the general election.

Did you like my fan fic? I wrote it for you.

 

[Here_Try_This]

 

[Cloudy]

Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew

New CNN Ohio poll of LV: Obama 50%, Romney 46%. Party ID: D-35%, I-33%, R-32% via @SamFeistCNN

Romentum!

 

[Slime]

CNN/ORC: 50-46 O in OH

Wolf: It's a tie!

 

[Amir0x]

Man, these Ohio numbers are super fucking consistent. With under 2 weeks to go, how the hell is Romney going to pick up speed there?

And with the early voting... Obama got this shit in the bag and beyond

 

[HylianTom]

Haha!

Let the circle jerk continue!

;-)

 

[rSpooky]

Feel good moment. I was going some stuff ad found this newspaper Did not even know I had it anymore. It is a sign ..

Final stretch! Gobama!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Man, these Ohio numbers are super fucking consistent. With under 2 weeks to go, how the hell is Romney going to pick up speed there?

And with the early voting... Obama got this shit in the bag and beyond

DAT HUSTED FACTOR

 

[Cloudy]

OMG CNN is hyping their own poll as "Romney tied with Obama in OH" because it's within the MoE

 

[Black Republican]

Oh Ohio, you used to be so republican.

im expecting another Team Romney memo leak from Ohio.

 

[BertramCooper]

Man, these Ohio numbers are super fucking consistent. With under 2 weeks to go, how the hell is Romney going to pick up speed there?

And with the early voting... Obama got this shit in the bag and beyond

He's not. He's toast in Ohio.

In fact, he's been screwed here since the day he picked Paul Ryan over Rob Portman. That unbelievably stupid decision cost him any last chance of winning here.

 

[Amir0x]

DAT HUSTED FACTOR

Man no way Husted is going to be able to undo 2 or 3 points of Obama lead, whether he wants to or not.

OMG CNN is hyping their own poll as "Romney tied with Obama in OH" because it's within the MoE

Really, CNN. Really. <I tried to say this in my head like the girls on THE CYCLE were saying it yesterday over that fake women voters "scientific study">

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

CNN/ORC: 50-46 O in OH

Wolf: It's a tie!

 

[Clevinger]

Obama got this shit in the bag and beyond

Jon Husted: Bwahahahahahaha, they think they'll win

 

[Father_Brain]

Romentum!

Also, only D+3 PID, so the unskewer logic won't work for this one.

 

[WaltJay]

Nate Silver &#8207;@fivethirtyeight
In 2012, scientists proposed a radical idea: the candidate who was leading in Ohio would probably win the election.

Bad news for...oh forget it.

 

[Slime]

Apparently the company where Romney gave his economic speech today benefited from the stimulus. Heh.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Employers and employees should be allowed to talk about their political affiliation and the reasons behind why they do. Some are only able to talk while others can send out documents.

If I find out that a person was explicitly fired for their decision in the voting booth then I'll have a problem. Until then, the doc could easily be tossed in the garbage/recycle bin.

Except as the article said when the boss tells you who to vote for its understandable to ten be hesitant to don a bumper sticker for the candidate he doesnt support or to feel pressured to not talk about your views in front of others even when asked. Its harrassment.

 

[The Lamonster]

He's not. He's toast in Ohio.

In fact, he's been screwed here since the day he picked Paul Ryan over Rob Portman. That unbelievably stupid decision cost him any last chance of winning here.

This has boggled my mind for a long time.

 

[BotoxAgent]

Haha!

Let the circle jerk continue!

;-)

I got my bottle of Republican tears for lube!

 

[CaptainSchwann]

Lol turned it to CNN and sure enough:

Wolf: "DEAD HEAT!"

 

[The Technomancer]

My EC prediction, for what it's worth. (Not much.)

It probably falls on the pessimistic side. I think it could end up being quite a bit wider.

So if this is the conservative estimate (I see pretty much every blue state on there except perhaps for NH as being an almost sure thing) what are the more optimistic estimates? What other states do people think Obama could pick up?

 

[BertramCooper]

Apparently the company where Romney gave his economic speech today benefited from the stimulus. Heh.

And Worthington Industries in suburban C-Bus (not even a mile from my office), where he spoke earlier this week, benefited from the auto bailout.

 

[Amir0x]

He's not. He's toast in Ohio.

In fact, he's been screwed here since the day he picked Paul Ryan over Rob Portman. That unbelievably stupid decision cost him any last chance of winning here.

Let me emphasize how bad this is for Romney

PolliGAF sky-fallers should just think of this... throughout this entire campaign, Romney has led in the average of polls in Ohio approximately ZERO TIMES. (lowest point was O +0.7, when? Right after the Repub Convention.) That's right. Since the start of Election Season 2012, Romney has led in Ohio in the RealClearPolitics average of polls zero times.

There are now, like, ten days left to go or some shit.

Chicken Littlers: What is going to change in that time?

 

[Stinkles]

I just noticed PoliGaf is spelled "PolliGaf" in the OT. Is this a veiled Pollyanna pun?

 

[HylianTom]

So if this is the conservative estimate (I see pretty much every blue state on there except perhaps for NH as being an almost sure thing) what are the more optimistic estimates? What other states do people think Obama could pick up?

Honestly? I think there's a small chance that he could very well sweep, with his ceiling somewhere around 348EVs.

But I'm sticking with 303EVs. Seems safe. I'm confident in dat ground game.

Romney doesn't have game. No, sir-ee!