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PS5 is already PlayStation's most successful Console by $ in the US & 3rd most successful Console overall

Loomy

Thinks Microaggressions are Real
PS5 had cross-gen titles like Miles Morales and Sackboy. The only game that actually was exclusive was....a remake: Demon's Souls and and demo: Astro's Playroom. (i think i'm not forgetting anything?)

You guys underestimate Playstation's brand. People will buy it because it's the next shiny new Playstation. If it plays better than PS5, it's enough.
I completely agree, the brand is strong. The PS5 Pro sales is proof of that. I still think it'll be a hard sell. They need a lot of momentum in the PS5's last 2 years and the first overlapping year.

Also, no one really knows what Microsoft is going to do in 3 years. Chances are they're going to shit the bed really bad, but on the off chance they actually give people a compelling reason to play games at a....sorry, I can't finish this without laughing lol
 
Dark times. This generation has been garbage, but $$ sales for PS5 are higher than ever. It’s going to take a hit to Sony’s wallet to make them humble again.
One thing that seems that people are missing is that the core of Playstation is that it was always about being a console for developers. They wanted everything releasing on their console and they are still doing just that. Their exclusive content was always a bonus and if you check each gen's best selling games, you may get 1 or 2 exclusives in there. Everything else is multiplatform.

Playstation was always good at being the best place to play "all" games. There's a reason that all of this year's GOTY nominees were only available on Playstation.

Both MS and Nintendo have failed to do that.
 

Bojji

Member
They can't win with some people here.

Produce GAAS .. Bad
Cancel GAAS... Bad

Myself I see the Gaas venture backfiring is nothing but a good news for us

It's good news for the FUTURE. NOW we are left with studios starting from scratch again when in alternate reality we would get few games from them in 2024/25.
 

Zacfoldor

Member
It screwed up the pipeline but they could correct course, we will have just a sparse couple years.

That said, I think it is easy to forget that just becasue Sony's output is at an all time low doesn't mean that the PS5 sucks. It is actually the best console ever because of multiplats. There are more games to play than ever before by a ton, and good games too, not just shovelware, indies, and old bullshit, but actual quality games.

These little pity parties yall like to throw are a hell of your own making. Touch grass. Play a videogame. Enjoy life. End fomo. There are more 90+ games out today than you will ever be able to play in your entire life. You are rich already.
 
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SweetTooth

Gold Member
It's good news for the FUTURE. NOW we are left with studios starting from scratch again when in alternate reality we would get few games from them in 2024/25.

Its ok, Its not like there are 5 games only on PSN. Games are released every day
 
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jm89

Member
They can't win with some people here.

Produce GAAS .. Bad
Cancel GAAS... Bad

Myself I see the Gaas venture backfiring is nothing but a good news for us
Personally I don't see Sony pushing for more gaas a bad thing I mean they found really good success with Helldivers, it's the excessive push and wasting time of studios that could be working on non gaas games.
 
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James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
Its like saying since Netflix posted record profits last year that Netflix is better than ever

Or like saying you enjoy Call of Duty but then blame Sony for lacking creativity

Or saying PS5 in general has nothing to play when you play plenty of games on PC that are also playable on PlayStation

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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Or like saying you enjoy Call of Duty but then blame Sony for lacking creativity

Or saying PS5 in general has nothing to play when you play plenty of games on PC that are also playable on PlayStation

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Can't help it if I didn't want to play Spiderman 2 which was literally the only game in this list from PS I was sort of interested in

The only game from PS I actually enjoyed that I couldn't play anywhere else was Astrobot

Keep trying though

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SweetTooth

Gold Member
Its like saying since Netflix posted record profits last year that Netflix is better than ever
Your opinion man, Sony this gen produced fantastic hardware (PS5) fantastic migen (Pro) both are silent with no major design flaws.

Great accessories in Portal and PSVR2, Dualsense edge.

Supplied with great games (DS,Returnal, GoW, GT7, Astro...etc) great 3P support and timed exclusives (SH2, SB..etc)

Great online functionality with top streaming service.

Us PS fans has been well fed despite games taking longer to make, now look at MS output? Is it better.. no! Have they tried to make anything creative (PSVR, Portal) like? No.. Have they tried to secure anything valuable for their fans like Sony did? No

Nintendo? Well they made Switch in 2017 and rode it success with minimal efforts rehashing the same kiddy games and inventing nothing in the space .. and they get minimal 3P support

Sony is winning because they offered the best value for their fans and I don't get why people say this is Sony worst gen. Its one of their best actually.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Your opinion man, Sony this gen produced fantastic hardware (PS5) fantastic migen (Pro) both are silent with no major design flaws.

Great accessories in Portal and PSVR2, Dualsense edge.

Supplied with great games (DS,Returnal, GoW, GT7, Astro...etc) great 3P support and timed exclusives (SH2, SB..etc)

Great online functionality with top streaming service.

Us PS fans has been well fed despite games taking longer to make, now look at MS output? Is it better.. no! Have they tried to make anything creative (PSVR, Portal) like? No.. Have they tried to secure anything valuable for their fans like Sony did? No

Nintendo? Well they made Switch in 2017 and rode it success with minimal efforts rehashing the same kiddy games and inventing nothing in the space .. and they get minimal 3P support

Sony is winning because they offered the best value for their fans and I don't get why people say this is Sony worst gen. Its one of their best actually.
Yup 100% my opinion

Hardware is top notch

That’s why there’s multiple Sony games topping the charts this year but allegedly have no games.

Looks like you got the marching orders too
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Unknown?

Member
People are being intellectually dishonest when they attempt to insist the PS3 was better. Pretty much every 3rd party game ran like Cyberpunk did on the ps4. 3rd party games were skipping the system. The last remnant (a square Enix jrpg! ) was announced for the system but was subsequently cancelled. Sony's exclusives and new IP, while showing promise (which was then realised in sequels), failed to live up to expectations. Exclusive games were also getting cancelled during that time (8 days).

But yet, somehow people want to go back to relive that and would rather have those first 4 years over the PS5's first 4 years? Yeh fucking right.
Yeah, it is poor memory and when you list games they don't count for "reasons." 2024 had a TON of games exclusive and not.
 

Jakk

Member
Hilarious how many people here judge a console generation by sales. Acting more like Sony execs than actual gamers. Also, celebrating the fact that PlayStation's direct competition is pretty much dying is incredibly stupid from the consumer's standpoint. But I guess people blinded by some ridiculous console wars just aren't capable of seeing it.
 

SweetTooth

Gold Member
Hilarious how many people here judge a console generation by sales. Acting more like Sony execs than actual gamers. Also, celebrating the fact that PlayStation's direct competition is pretty much dying is incredibly stupid from the consumer's standpoint. But I guess people blinded by some ridiculous console wars just aren't capable of seeing it.

Why, is Playstation competition dying? No, Nintendo are alive and stronger than ever, PC is alive and stronger than ever! .... Oh you mean Xbox?

Playstation competition is not only Xbox.
 

rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Yeah that was when Don Mattrick came in. It didn't outdo the initial loses. Not sure I see the relevance of any of this though considering that PS5 has been profitable since year 1 and profitable now too.
Exactly what I said initially. It is in the title too."3rd more successful". Imagine saying the X360 was a success at anything by $.
 

Jakk

Member
Why, is Playstation competition dying? No, Nintendo are alive and stronger than ever, PC is alive and stronger than ever! .... Oh you mean Xbox?

Playstation competition is not only Xbox.
Nintendo with a hybrid handheld and significantly different library of games, "kiddie" games according to you I might add, is now direct competition for PlayStation? Okay. I don't see much sense in including PC when it comes to this competition, PC is not some custom hardware produced by a single company and it seem Sony themselves lately view PC more as an additional market than competition.

Ever since the PS3/X360 generation, Xbox has been the most significant direct competition for PlayStation, I don't think anyone sane can dispute that. But after taking a quick look at your posts, I think you are one of the most obvious examples of the people I mentioned in the post you were responding to, so...
 
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Robb

Gold Member
Pretty incredible that they’re the 3rd most successful already tbh.

Wish that money was put to better use than GAAS, VR etc. though. It’s looking more and more likely that this is the first PlayStation generation I’ll just skip completely.
 

SweetTooth

Gold Member
Nintendo with a hybrid handheld and significantly different library of games, "kiddie" games according to you I might add, is now direct competition for PlayStation? Okay. I don't see much sense in including PC when it comes to this competition, PC is not some custom hardware produced by a single company and it seem Sony themselves lately view PC more as an additional market than competition.

Ever since the PS3/X360 generation, Xbox has been the most significant direct competition for PlayStation, I don't think anyone sane can dispute that. But after taking a quick look at your posts, I think you are one of the most obvious examples of the people I mentioned in the post you were responding to, so...

Yes, Nintendo is direct competition with Sony since 1994. Them trying to carve a nich doesn't exclude them from being a competition.

PC is competition as clear as day.

So Xbox being relevant or not doesn't change this fact. Doesn't change anything tbh
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
They won't have trouble selling PS6.
They will.
Things working against the PS6:
  • A whole gen wasted on cancelled live service projects and the resultant hit to the brand
  • Tens of millions of people playing a selection of forever games that may even still be playable on the PS4 by the time the PS6 launches
  • A new reputation for an extended and compromising first party cross gen period, and perhaps even the technological deadweight of a handheld
  • 3rd parties getting slower and slower on releasing new games, and having even less cause to go PS6-gen only
  • PC porting
  • Lack of price decreases barring serious reforms in manufacturing and a willingness to cut into thin margins
  • No enthusiasm in the core PS fanbase due to underwhelming sequels, bad looking new IP (Intergalactic) and no showmanship from Sony
A lot of this doesn't even apply to Nintendo, and people take it as a given that the Switch 2 won't be nearly as successful as the first.
 
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kiphalfton

Member
Scalpers helped big time.

Half the people who bought it probably wouldn't have done so, until everybody wanted it.

That was like a 2 year period that gave Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia a big sales boost.
 
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