Yeah man... let's stop making games of a genre... why should we continue to make FPSes when Call of Duty is already so sucessfull? Let's pick the most representative games of every genre out there and stick with them, forever.
So the vita had a very strong few months...was that it?
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Yeah man... let's stop making games of a genre... why should we continue to make FPSes when Call of Duty is already so sucessfull? Let's pick the most representative games of every genre out there and stick with them, forever.
outunderthestars
Banned
Did I say that they should stop making it? I said it reminded me too much of Monster Hunter. He claimed it wasn't like it, then proceeded to describe Monster Hunter.
I couldn't possibly care less if they make a thousand clones of a genre of game. I just don't see anything about it that would make it resonate with U.S. audiences.
it seems to me that Sony spent all of the Vita's R&D time figuring out how to cram the most tech in a device without spending any time to give it an identity, or to craft compelling reasons for a wide audience to actually want the thing.
Doctor Decimate
Member
he said that type of game doesn't appeal to him :|
I thought that was implied on your post. Who cares if it's from the same genre of PSO or MH? The game is very different from both, so it have a chance to co-exist.
The game seems to be of interest to many people here and in other gaming sites/youtube videos and reviews. Let's wait to see before trying to judge based on personal opinions.
To Far Away Times
Member
I don't see much software support, especially by third parties, by this time next year.
Every game released for the Vita is essentially losing money compared to if it could be on any other platform.
Every game released for the Vita is essentially losing money compared to if it could be on any other platform.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
The game gives a monster hunter meets demon souls vibe, the latter series being pretty popular in the west for what may be considered a niche game. Honestly though, any similarities are fairly superficial...the game looks to play quite a bit different than those its compared to.
Tbh, the portable handheld market is pretty much relegated to being niche, even the 3ds which is only popular in Japan.
I happen to like the niche games vita (and 3ds) bring to the table, so I hope both can manage to be viable even in spite of competition from mobile devices.
pharmboy044
Member
There might not be retail releases but I'm pretty sure we will still get PSN releases.
Agent X
Member
Speak for yourself.
Some people (like myself) might like to play certain games on both systems. There are many legitimately excellent games that can excel as both a home console game and a portable game. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
That's an awesome list for sure. I'd also add Super Stardust Delta and MotorStorm RC.
IrishNinja
Member
this is pretty much all i want of what ive seen from 2013 so far, kinda slim pickens but if PSO2 gets localized that would salvage a great deal for me
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Nah. AssCreed, NFS, COD...perfect for the pocket dudebro. Nothing hardcore about the lineup until it gets a deluge of niche JRPGs...the genre that made the PSP worthwhile
oh cmon, you could say that to any system in its launch year. especially those who were released early in the year. they are just questioning why people helm vita as some kind of perfect console for everyone. its not. everyone has different taste, some things they will like and some they don't. that's the point of "I wouldn't consider that a few strong months" statement you're reading here. I could say the same thing for 3ds.
3DS: The bottom line is the system had a great fucking year. It may have been a bit loaded into the start and the finish, but it was still a fucking great year.
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
Steel Diver
Rayman 3D
Pilotwings Resort
Nintendogs + Cats
Dead or Alive: Dimensions
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (gets undue shit)
Thor: God of Thunder
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Star Fox 64 3D
Bit.Trip Saga
Tetris Axis
Harvest Moon: The Tale of Two Towns
Pokémon Rumble Blast
Super Mario 3D Land
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy
Shinobi
Nano Assault
Sonic Generations
Mario Kart 7
Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights
All of those are games that either reviewed well or in the case of RE Mercenaries, have a dedicated fan base.
All those eshop games. and free Ambassador games.
I think its pretty hard to shit on the 3ds after 10 months like that. Not too bad at all. If you want to insist there's nothing on the system that interests you, then take a walk out of this thread and go buy a fucking psp go.
see they are kind of the same. so no need to butthurt over people saying it doesn't have a strong lineup.
outunderthestars
Banned
Fixed1979
Member
I'm not sure if you know what "reviewed well" means, though we might have different opinions on what a meta score of 50 is... Not to say there's not a dud on a Vita list...but personally I'd take the Vita list over this any time, though TCGR:SW is one of my favorite recent handheld titles.
Well, if people are going to claim "Vita has no gamez" and there's proof to the contrary... I say post it. In that post's case it was defending the 3DS, I suppose, but I think it goes without saying the Vita had a strong year-one library.
I see that. I see vita version of Godeater 2 will at least half million. Soul Sacrifice will also sell 300k +. DOA5 plus will sell around 100k, but that's actually pretty decent for original sold half million.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
to OP
No, Vita 2013 is fucking stacked, and if you enjoyed this year your gonna have a blast next year, maybe 2014 will be doomed though.... I wouldn't bet on it
No, Vita 2013 is fucking stacked, and if you enjoyed this year your gonna have a blast next year, maybe 2014 will be doomed though.... I wouldn't bet on it
Mizzou Gaming
Member
Wait, I think we are arguing 2 completely different things here. I believe most people acknowledge the Vita is indeed a great system, but its had an absolutely terrible year at retail. I can't really speak for everyone but when I say the Vita has had a bad last couple of months, I'm talking overall sales and marketshare percentages.
In Japan, absolutely. Tearaway has some European appeal too, and Killzone Mercenary should have healthy numbers as well.
That's very fair. The library has been great but the marketing & sales have been poor. And poor is sugar-coating it.
twentytwo22
Member
Another one?
My Christmas wish didn't come true
My Christmas wish didn't come true
fabfour64xx
Banned
Meh, I wouldn't call it "strong" and I don't really see a bright future for the device.
I am interested in picking one up at some point down the road, but I already have a PS3, 3DS, and iPhone, so the Vita just seems redundant to me. *shrugs*
I am interested in picking one up at some point down the road, but I already have a PS3, 3DS, and iPhone, so the Vita just seems redundant to me. *shrugs*
im saying that either handheld has something that gamers hate and love in its launch year reviewed well or not. so its easy to understand why some posters are saying that vita didn't have a strong few months. just like the 3ds.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
no one plays sales and market share percentages that means jack shit in terms of support and experience which can be played and enjoyed
Good thing the Vita had a solid first-year's worth of titles to be played and enjoyed.
fabfour64xx
Banned
I wouldn't hold my breath.
The Vita will get some good games this year but it definitely is kinda light when it comes to announced exclusives.
Those are really optimistic numbers.
Those are really optimistic numbers.
meltingparappa
Member
If it guaranteed a steady output of games, I'd be perfectly happy if Vita embraces becoming a machine that receives the best possible ports of old games.
Take the entire PS2 library, take away the load times, make them 60 fps, and give them some bonus content/fixes like P4G, and it would be a dream.
Take the entire PS2 library, take away the load times, make them 60 fps, and give them some bonus content/fixes like P4G, and it would be a dream.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Source on this or are people still assuming?
Vyse The Legend
Member
Honestly, I'm puzzled by comments from both sides of the fence.
The "lulz Vita has no games" crowd is definitely grasping at straws at this point. There are a decent amount of quality Vita versions of existing games and a handful of exclusive titles that are worth owning, plus you have the PS1 and PSP back catalogue to pad out the library. The latter alone makes the Vita is infinitely much more worthy of the title Playstation Portable than the PSP. Persona fans, for example, can now have almost ever game in the series in one device. That's great.
On the other hand, Vita owners feeling the need to deflect attacks and redirect them to the 3DS is equally puzzling. The 3DS has a varied, eclectic library of games that may not appeal to everyone, but at least, it has zany exclusives like Guild.01 that may not have existed otherwise.
Technically, it already has a MH game, Freedom Unite. /trollface
This is true, to some extent for both systems.
The "lulz Vita has no games" crowd is definitely grasping at straws at this point. There are a decent amount of quality Vita versions of existing games and a handful of exclusive titles that are worth owning, plus you have the PS1 and PSP back catalogue to pad out the library. The latter alone makes the Vita is infinitely much more worthy of the title Playstation Portable than the PSP. Persona fans, for example, can now have almost ever game in the series in one device. That's great.
On the other hand, Vita owners feeling the need to deflect attacks and redirect them to the 3DS is equally puzzling. The 3DS has a varied, eclectic library of games that may not appeal to everyone, but at least, it has zany exclusives like Guild.01 that may not have existed otherwise.
Technically, it already has a MH game, Freedom Unite. /trollface
This is true, to some extent for both systems.
Who knows. There are only a couple announced upcoming games I'm interested in -- Guacamelee and Tearaway -- but even if software completely dries up, it'll have had a decent enough first year to be worth owning for a lot of people, I think.
Even if it fails to catch up to the Dreamcast and kicks the bucket before 2014, I think for a lot gamers, what they have is good enough. I'm sure most would agree the Dreamcast, short-lived as it was, had a library worth owning the system for. The same may be said for Vita.
Even if it fails to catch up to the Dreamcast and kicks the bucket before 2014, I think for a lot gamers, what they have is good enough. I'm sure most would agree the Dreamcast, short-lived as it was, had a library worth owning the system for. The same may be said for Vita.
It is not just based on pure optimism though. It is based on educational guess.
Godeater is million seller franchise. If recent survey at Japanese famitsu is true (68% prefer vita over PSP version) then yeah, I see that GE2 sells half million on vita. If GE2 vita version has wi-fi multi player then it's no brainer to choose vita version over PSP. (and I think it WILL feature wi-fi multi since Soul Sacrifice's wifi multi, according to inafune, was possible because of heavy tech support from SCEI. SCE will do whatever it takes to make GE2 vita version a success.)
Soul Sacrifice's performance prediction is based on the very positive demo reception and games like ragnarok odyssey, which is no where near close Soul's reception already sold over 100k. Since Sony will heavily advertise this game in Japan I don't think it will do poorly.
DOA5 plus will sell 100k + worldwide. Just watch.
I may be wrong but I don't think God Eater is a million seller franchise and like you said its audience is going to be split with the PSP version.
I have no idea how DOA and Soul Sacrifice are going to do but I wouldn't be surprised either way with them.
God eater IS a million seller franchise. I'm surprised you're questioning this. It is pretty well known fact.
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
Is this thread seriously happening?
No I'm pretty sure it's more like a 600K selling franchise.
I feel the launch lineup was its strongest as far as a block of releases go. The last few months have been sub-par if not for Persona 4.
That's for god eater alone. God eater burst sold 600k, making combined franchise sale 1.2m.
for me P4G alone can replace everything I've played on vita so far.
In one month you had Persona 4, AC3: Liberation, Need For Speed, and PlayStation All Stars, which was a pretty kickass five weeks.
The rest of Vita's best was peppered throughout the year. LittleBigPlanet (my favorite game on the machine), Sound Shapes, Gravity Rush, Mortal Kombat, etc, all came out over the course of six months.
Yeah but you implied in your other post that an individual entry is a million seller. You could argue that it is the same game, but if the G versions of monster hunter is any indication most of the people who bought burst were double dipping (and by that logic monster hunter is like an 8 million selling franchise).
I always wrote the word 'franchise'. You simply read it wrong.
Also Monster Hunter p 2 to Monster hunter p 2G saw the 2x sales increase (which is well deserved because 2G was practically a 3 -additional monsters and lots of contents-), and I believe God Eater 2 will become a million seller 'title'.
and no, monster hunter is not 8 million selling franchise. it's way more than that.
Launch lineup consisted of Lumines, Hot Shots Golf, Ninja Gaiden, Motorstorm RC, Uncharted, Rayman Origins, Marvel vs Capcom, Wipeout, Dynasty Warriors, Unit 13 in a matter of weeks. I'm sure I'm missing some other games.
In the other thread it mentioned Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 coming out in February? Is that date JP only?
astronautcowboy
Member
In Japan, the Vita is going to have an awesome 4th quarter. I don't know about the states, but man, Maaaaarch!
It's gonna be murder.
It's gonna be murder.
Metallix87
Member
I think the "Vita has no games" thing has more to do with the appeal of the content as opposed to the content itself. It's not that Vita has no games at all, it's that it lacks games that can sell people on the system. There's no real games that gets gamers clamoring to get a Vita.
Yes, it boils down to sales, but this is NeoGAF.
As for lineups, I agree that the first year lineup was relatively strong, but it mostly slowed down towards the end, and 2013 looks abysmal. Definitely a very front-loaded year for software.
I think it had a great first year. I don't think it came close to established platforms, though.