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The way people here wax poetic about wanting Sony to invest in small games doesn't fit with the reaction to this broadcast's content...

This.

 

[kaizenkko]

I think Sony is in a lot more trouble than people realize when it comes to their first-party development.

As others have said we don't really have a single confirmed game for 2024, though I'm sure we can rely on another MLB The Show game. Though still stunning that they aren't releasing these on PC yet.

When in Sony's entire history have we not known a single game confirmed for an entire 12+ month period, especially after a pretty dry 2023...?

Day's Gone was released in early 2019, yet we don't even know what Sony Bend has? We're pushing nearly 5 years... So it sounds like a combination of covid and probably development issues. We know they were recruiting around Unreal Engine, which in itself is miraculous for a first-party studio.

Ghost of Tsushima was released in 2020 and we haven't seen anything from Sucker Punch since.
Dreams came out in early 2020 and Media Molecule is shedding employees and founders. Would not be surprised if MM closes down, yet it's hard to understand why Dreams wasn't ported to PC.

Naughty Dog's live service game was delayed because it didn't meet expectations. 3 years into the generation and we haven't seen anything from them other than a port and a remake.

Polyphony Digital still hasn't ported GT7 to PC.

Bluepoint released Demon's Souls in 2020 and again nothing to show since.

The Twisted Metal TV show came and went without ANY showing of the game.

London Studio has yet to put out a PS5 game and their last game came out in 2019...

The biggest games Sony has made over the last 3 years have been cross-gen games... Something very strange is going on that studios across the board are struggling. Maybe it's the new hybrid nature of work and more remote work, combined with significant delays via covid and probably a lack of infrastructure to really support remote game development.

I doubt Pixelopus will be the last studio closed for Sony this generation. Deviation Games while not owned by Sony, certainly is on the verge of closure as a result of things not going well. Haven Studio's game looks like complete trash, really begging the question as to why Sony bought them.

One could say that Sony really needs to look at their marketing and their lack of a roadmap, but at the same time the PS5 is selling like hotcakes. And there was once a time where Sony wasn't even a major publisher. Ultimately, I think we're seeing an impact across the industry with unfinished/rushed games, games that don't innovate. AAA is a really bad space to be in right now.

In 2023 Sony released/will release Final Fantasy XVI and Spider-Man 2. Two major AAA releases. This isn't much different from what it have done over the past years...

I agree that the lack of announcements is frustrating, but think that Sony's studios (especially acclaimed ones like Naughty Dog) aren't working on great games is ignorant, to say the least.

When Sony goes an entire year without releasing a single major exclusive, then I agree that there is a problem. Until that happens, it's all nonsense from people who live for video games. lol

 

[Robb]

In 2023 Sony released/will release Final Fantasy XVI and Spider-Man 2.

FF isn’t Sony though, that’s Square. From the looks of it, the only major title from PlayStation Studios is Spider-Man 2 (unless you count MLB the Show 23 and some smaller VR stuff major).

 

[Salz01]

I just want Little Devil Inside, and Stellar Blade. Bonus would Dragons Dogma 2

 

[kaizenkko]

FF isn’t Sony though, that’s Square. From the looks of it, the only major title from PlayStation Studios is Spider-Man 2 (unless you count MLB the Show 23 and some smaller VR stuff major).

Which other platforms was FF XVI released on? It's an exclusive game that will only be released on PC in a few months (and probably never will be released on other consoles).

 

[Robb]

Which other platforms was FF XVI released on? It's an exclusive game that will only be released on PC in a few months (and probably never will be released on other consoles).

But isn’t the discussion around first party games made by PlayStation Studios? Why would a 3rd party game be relevant?

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I honestly can't think of anything they might show and announce this year for 2024 1st party-wise. They've literally nothing worth showing, let alone which might release next year and which is not remaster of something from last gen.
I'm ready for Zero Dawn and TLOU2 remasters, ATLUS stuff, some 3rd party timed exclusive games and not expecting anything else and worthwile 1st party-wise until at least 2025. But even then... Wolverine, Ghost of Tsushima 2... hardly mind-blowing games I can't wait to play and waiting for, given I'm not a huge fan of Spider-Man games or Ghost of Tsushima cuz of their ancient core openworld design and nature.

 

[kaizenkko]

But isn’t the discussion around first party games made by PlayStation Studios? Why would a 3rd party game be relevant?

Sony is clearly using third-party games to cover the gaps in first-party game development.

So far they haven't stopped delivering good exclusive releases. Isn't that what matters?

 

[KXVXII9X]

Anything would be an improvement over the last State of Play of shoot the glowing orbs.

 

[Robb]

Sony is clearly using third-party games to cover the gaps in first-party game development.

So far they haven't stopped delivering good exclusive releases. Isn't that what matters?

I agree, and it is. But that’s something they have to do just because their own output is so disappointing, which is the point.

 

[kaizenkko]

I agree, and it is. But that’s something they have to do just because their own output is so disappointing, which is the point.

Last year they released Gran Turismo 7, Horizon Forbidden West and GOW Ragnarok. In 2021, R&C Rift Apart and Returnal. How can this be disappointing?

I agree that this year is inferior to the others, but that's it: in some years you deliver more, in others, less. But they didn't stop delivering.

What people complain about is not knowing what first-party studios are doing, and I agree, I would like to know. I like the old Sony, which put on great shows and sold dreams. But think that first-party studios aren't doing anything, or that suddenly everyone has internal problems is crazy.

 

[Dcr1d3r]

Hoping this isn't a lacklustre show...maybe Sony have a few nice surprises in store...

 

[Robb]

What people complain about is not knowing what first-party studios are doing, and I agree, I would like to know. I like the old Sony, which put on great shows and sold dreams. But think that first-party studios aren't doing anything, or that suddenly everyone has internal problems is crazy.

Oh, for sure! They have lots of studios who are all working on stuff, no doubt about that.

I think it’s just a common complaint in threads like this one because the big exciting first party title reveals are what most people, me included, look forward to at these events. The ‘one more thing’ announcements.

Square Enix announcing Final Fantasy or Capcom announcing Monster Hunter is cool and all, but I’m not tuning in to a Sony show for that alone. What I want is the actual Sony stuff.

 

[KXVXII9X]

Geez, I understand that you guys are disappointed by the lack of focus on 1st party titles, but some of the reactions in here are a tad too melodramatic (pls don't kill me).

 

[blastprocessor]

What are Sony 1st party up to. l mean this generation has been an unmitigated disaster.

 

[Luipadre]

What are Sony 1st party up to. l mean this generation has been an unmitigated disaster.

waiting for ps6 release

 

[Danjin44]

Square Enix announcing Final Fantasy or Capcom announcing Monster Hunter is cool and all, but I’m tuning in to a Sony show for that alone. What I want is the actual Sony stuff.

In PS2 and PS3 era when it had healthy amount of both Japanese and western first party games but this gen I’m not sure what I should be excited about when it comes to first party games from Sony…..Marvel games?

Currently third party games like Square, Capcom, Atlus and FromSoftware bringing more exciting games compared to Sony’s first party games in my opinion.

 

[Elios83]

I agree, and it is. But that’s something they have to do just because their own output is so disappointing, which is the point.

It's far from disappointing.
They just had a few fantastic years, 4 big hits released last year and now they're about to publish one the biggest game of the year.
How is that disappointing?
Disappointing is when you have a console with a barren release schedule.

Big AAA games take 5-6 years to be developed.
It's natural that after a big wave of releases there will be a transition period until the next wave is ready.
Many of the projects Sony studios are working on are also already known although still not officially announced. They will announce them when they feel ready.
And they should take their time because if they show things that are not polished people won't be kind to them. It's easy to ruin the reputation of a game with a single bad show especially if it's a new IP without a prior reputation to cling to.

 

[kaizenkko]

Oh, for sure! They have lots of studios who are all working on stuff, no doubt about that.

I think it’s just a common complaint in threads like this one because the big exciting first party title reveals are what most people, me included, look forward to at these events. The ‘one more thing’ announcements.

Square Enix announcing Final Fantasy or Capcom announcing Monster Hunter is cool and all, but I’m not tuning in to a Sony show for that alone. What I want is the actual Sony stuff.

You should just play games.

Again: I agree that Sony could be clearer about which games are in development, but I'm far from seeing a problem, especially in a year when so many good games were released.

For today's event I just hope to see a release date for Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2, which is already great (for me).

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sorry, pointing out reality is "Fudtard"??

Yep. They have nothing in the pipeline. Their legacy studios won't be working on highly successful legacy games or their sequels that sold tens of millions even though those legacy game budgets were increased. They should pack up shop now.

It's funny, because they are now doing exactly what Nintendo does (and Sony has said they will do a tighter Apple/Nintendo like announcement window), but get shit for it. We don't ever know what Nintendo has until it's mere months out.

We just have to accept the marketing game has changed. The enthusiast will always be there, arguing on forums like we are now. The masses who get their 30 second TikTok trending video that has 100m views a couple months to a month before a game hits, are the main marketing drive. Similar to who? Nintendo.

 

[KXVXII9X]

Maybe its my wishful thinking but hoping Vanillaware and Yoko Taro announce their new game on this show but my guess even they do want to announce their games it will be TGS rather than this sate of play.

At very least give Elden RING DLC trailer and release date.

I feel like those kinds of games would be announced at TGS, which is why I like TGS. I'm expecting more run of the mill western and Chinese/Korean third party games that all look alike.

I hope they do have some interesting third party titles though. The Suicide Squad one was rough.

 

[Madjako]

Here is the text of the event :
Hello, Spiderman VR.
End of event

 

[saintjules]

waiting for ps6 release

I have a feeling it won't be called PS6. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue well.

PSssssssssiix.

 

[KXVXII9X]

Maybe its my wishful thinking but hoping Vanillaware and Yoko Taro announce their new game on this show but my guess even they do want to announce their games it will be TGS rather than this sate of play.

At very least give Elden RING DLC trailer and release date.

You were kind of right! They announced a new Vanillaware game (I think) during the Nintendo Direct.

 

[Danjin44]

You were kind of right! They announced a new Vanillaware game (I think) during the Nintendo Direct.

Oh I know…..Nintendo Direct has already won.

 

[johnjohn]

The way people here wax poetic about wanting Sony to invest in small games doesn't fit with the reaction to this broadcast's content...

People just want Sony to finally show some new first party content, it's been forever since they've had a big well received show with new exclusives. I think people would be happy to see some smaller games from Sony, that's not what the SOP is going to be though.

 

[kingkenny76]

I hope we get a launch date for Helldivers 2

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[ulantan]

I hope we get a launch date for Helldivers 2

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Shadow drop helldivers would make this a good state of play.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Oh I know…..Nintendo Direct has already won.

You do realize the two best announcements from the Direct - Unicorn Overlord and Tomb Raider Trilogy - are also on PlayStation, right? All Sony has to do is show a couple of cool things *not on Switch* to "win" lol.

 

[Danjin44]

You do realize the two best announcements from the Direct - Unicorn Overlord and Tomb Raider Trilogy - are also on PlayStation, right? All Sony has to do is show a couple of cool things *not on Switch* to "win" lol.

So? it doesn't change the fact it got announced on Nintendo Direct, that means the show was well worth watching and if look at my post I didn't say "switch won" I said "Nintendo Direct won".

 

[ByWatterson]

People really need to process that Sony is not going to pump up other big blockbusters until Spider-Man 2 is out.

 

[Fbh]

Sony after watching the underwhelming Direct getting ready to beat Nintendo by making an even more disappointing show

 

[CamHostage]

I think it’s just a common complaint in threads like this one because the big exciting first party title reveals are what most people, me included, look forward to at these events. The ‘one more thing’ announcements.

Most people should figure out, at some point, for their own good, that "exciting first party title reveals" are not what State of Play is for.

Sony has a Showcase/Future of PlayStation event every year around E3 time, and then that's really it aside from dedicated single-game spotlights and sometimes inclusion of new trailers for 1st Party games shown previously. 2021, the Showcase was late (it ran in Sept) but then 2022 they didn't even host a Showcase, and 2023 already had a Showcase in May.

PlayStation State of Play: Every Showcase and Major Game Announcement Since 2019 - IGN

We’re looking back at the history of State of Play thus far, chronicling every event and highlighting the biggest announcements from each to give you a better idea of what to expect from future broadcasts in Sony’s post-E3 world.

www.ign.com

Leakers get everybody excited when they catch word that a stream is planned (people's hopes were piqued when posts went out about a "second Showcase" after people grumbled about what was shown/not shown in May,) but Sony's streaming schedule is not strewn with surprises. Unless PlayStation says otherwise, expect a State of Play, not some event packed with first party title reveals.

 

[saintjules]

People really need to process that Sony is not going to pump up other big blockbusters until Spider-Man 2 is out.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[NEbeast]

Imagine working at PlayStation as a marketing person. Getting paid big bucks to do literally nothing. Must be the life.

Not every show can be a banger. It's not like they are about to buy a massive part of the industry, after buying Betheseda.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

 

[Kabelly]

I have a feeling it won't be called PS6. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue well.

PSssssssssiix.

Playstation Six sounds fine which would be the offical name.

 

[IDKFA]

For this to get me hard, I'd need all of the below to be shown/announced

Dragons Dogma 2
Dino Crisis Remake
Unreal Tournament
Half-Life Orange Box remaster
GTA 6
Space Marine 2
Silent Hill 2
Resident Evil 9
Alien Vs Predator Arcade port
KOTOR remake

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Silent hill would be enough for me but I have zero expectations going into this bring on the Spider-Man 2 previews tomorrow morning I can't wait

 

[RagnarokIV]

Silent Hill 2 first 15 minutes of gameplay.

MGS3 first half of Virtuous Mission gameplay (up to hornets nest cutscene).

Jim Ryan handing in resignation and fucking right off. Followed by announcement of new PS2 emulator for PS5.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[BennyBlanco]

https://x.com/playstation/status/1702359049629503686?s=46&t=xe0nyBD_IJX3odS3EH7UTA

Helldivers 2 gameplay, lets go. I’m kinda skeptical because the first one worked so well as a top down shooter but Risk Of Rain 2 pulled it off.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Puscifer]

Gonna be boring as fuck like every state of play. Won't even bother watching it.

Basically, I stopped caring about all these marketing events and just waited till afterwards to see what interested me.

 

[Elder Legend]

This is most likely how the fans will react after this State of Play. Just pretend that the Black dude is Jim Ryan and the guy banging on windows is an angry Sony fan not showing 1st party titles while Jim Ryan keeps getting away with it every time with the success of the PS5.

The Man With Musical Fists #shorts

youtube.com

 

[Puscifer]

https://x.com/playstation/status/1702359049629503686?s=46&t=xe0nyBD_IJX3odS3EH7UTA

Helldivers 2 gameplay, lets go. I’m kinda skeptical because the first one worked so well as a top down shooter but Risk Of Rain 2 pulled it off.

Benny is a man of culture I see. Risk of Rain 2 is my most second played game of all time

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Helldivers was one of those surprise early PS4 games that I ended up loving, looking forward to the second one. I know console specific players don't care about Horizon:FW going to PC but if that gets announced I'll be pretty excited. And just to have a completely unrealistic expectation, Sony is finally going to announce the revival of SOCOM.

 

[MikeM]

I have a feeling it won't be called PS6. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue well.

PSssssssssiix.

PSsex.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

But isn’t the discussion around first party games made by PlayStation Studios? Why would a 3rd party game be relevant?

Isn't this SOP geared towards 3rd party though?