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The Black Culture Thread |OT8| Hands Up, Don't Shoot
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Big Baybee
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Every time I see a post suggesting that all people who were spanked were abused and emotionally damaged I'm just thinking BITCH YOU GUESSIN'!
It doesn't help when black comedians usually use white kids as examples of bad/spoiled children in addition to promoting the belt as being more effective than "time out".
I've decided to not even read the threads because reading some posts just get my blood boiling. I was spanked and got whooped as a child. In no form was I abused or now emotionally damaged. According to some cats on GAF though, it's because I'm supressing feelings about how I think my parents are pieces of shit and should be locked up. It never ends.
Prototype Viktor
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you still alive? i thought your custom tag was "Banned"
also that video is funny but seems staged
I just wanted to say a few things in my defense that I didn't get say.
First of all when I stated it was a black tradition I didn't mean to imply anything about all black people or families or insinuate that it's part of some genetic predisposition. Tradition can simply be interpreted as an old beliefs. I didn't get why people got so focused on the title like it was just so wrong. Sure it was a generalization, but why do people assume there aren't correlations and or partial truths within them. I wasn't making it sound like it was a black rule. And I also wasn't making shit up without any firsthand experience.
I wasn't just talking about spanking, but rather a more specific ritual.
It's very possible that it's actually of prevalence in many lower class southern families, but I was speaking from my own experiences and therefore it was easier for me to identify it in black households because I come from a southern black household myself.
I wasn't excusing Adrian from anything but rather trying to pinpoint the cycle of ignorance and identifying that he's actually isn't a psychopath and that his intentions were probably well meaning though instilled by this antiquated and warped since of reality. As we saw with the opinions Reggie Bush and many other stars, Adrian's ignorance isn't this insane outlier. And often times it's even perpetuated in black culture by comedians, radio hosts, and black films.
And lastly I do think being in the most religiously conservative part of the nation definitely played a role in creating this tradition and maybe you could even source the beginning of it back to slavery.
It definitely goes back to slavery, but corporal punishment has been a part of many societies throughout history. As you alluded to, even the bible and other religious texts discuss "proper" corporal punishment for children as well as criminals (practices you still hear about in the news usually in regards to Middle Eastern countries).
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Or just don't make generalizations...?
They're just shortcuts to pinpoint what I wanted to talk about. I get why stereotypes and generalizing has a negative connotation, but I think as long as you realize their not hard-coded rules it's okay to admit to using them. Stereotyping is a part of everyday life. You have to make assumptions about people sometimes or you'd actually be quite socially inept. Now when you're not open to those assumptions being completely off base that's when problems occur.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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While
"Switch fetching is part of tradition in many religious southern families, " might have received less backlash it's not really what I wanted to talk about.
n00bsauce87
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When FIFA 15 Web app is not available *NSFW*
I don't know who in here plays, but it's getting real out here in the internets
I don't know who in here plays, but it's getting real out here in the internets
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Retro_
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Do you think it had a positive impact on you though?
^That's what I'm talking about. There's no frame of reference at all on either side.
No it doesn't.
Spanking is immensely more popular among blacks and as you can see, 'abuse', is subjective to a lot of people. I'm not gonna pretend like every single one of my cousins as well as myself never got hit hard and often.
No it doesn't.
Spanking is immensely more popular among blacks and as you can see, 'abuse', is subjective to a lot of people. I'm not gonna pretend like every single one of my cousins as well as myself never got hit hard and often.
It's still not a "black" thing.
sooperkool
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I can count on one hand the amount of times I have spanked my girls. It was effective but the "Dad Voice" and disappointment was much more effective as they got older (10+) so seeing no need I stopped. I do still tell them time to time that they are not too old to catch one (19 and 22).
One thing you youngsters don't know is that if you turn Dehumanizing Stare and Aggressive Step down to 50% you get Disapproval Gaze and Shamed Reaction. You have to have leveled up to Master though.
And that isn't even my final form.
One thing you youngsters don't know is that if you turn Dehumanizing Stare and Aggressive Step down to 50% you get Disapproval Gaze and Shamed Reaction. You have to have leveled up to Master though.
And that isn't even my final form.
Why can't it be?
There's a lot of black families that -don't- believe in spanking. Seems like a regional thing.
uh huh
so why would religious blacks in the south somehow be more prone to use bits and pieces of slave breaking techniques on their kids?
n00bsauce87
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Probably based off of a study, that or a lot of people listed to the Herd on ESPN yesterday morning (me included). Survey people from all over and it was found that a southern born-again christian black republican was most likely to whoop their kids.
Black > White
Republican > Independent > Democrat
Southern (most likely) | Northeast (least likely)
Granted, for black parents it was only 9% more than white parents. something like 88% to 79%. Parents in general overwhelmingly have spanking their kids regardless of race
I've always just felt that it was common knowledge and generally accepted that spanking isn't just more tolerated - but more accepted and generally encouraged in certain groups. The big thing is how you see stuff like there being no real recognition of child abuse when it comes to spanking until you see kids coming to school with black eyes or outright running away from home. You see practices that some would consider forms of torture by having kids go out and pick out the instrument of their beatings and having to attempt to explain (pointlessly) what put them in such a predicament prior to a beating. You'll see mothers and fathers say stuff like "I'd rather hit my child at home than look the other way and have someone in the outside world hit them" in such a way that implies that they aren't even aware of more parenting options or choices. You'll see kids in church beaten by people outside of their family regularly.
And people don't even flinch at any of the stuff.
I'm not saying that it's even wrong because it didn't systematically guarantee that all of us failed in life and there are plenty of people who never got touched who are shitbags as well - that's irrelevant imo because there are a multitude of ways to be a bad parent.
andthebeatgoeson
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I'm black and don't believe in spanking. Directly caused by my parents stance on not spanking. Alright my dad is real light skinned, so that may explain it.
But I support spanking... Because I have three kids. I don't but I will pinch the hell out of them or twist their arm. I support a parent making up shit just like every other patent. You have different kids with different personalities. I get more physical with my 4 year old. He's in the 99th percentile in height and weight. He looks 6 and will probably be 4 feet tall next year. I can't control him well. And I need him to know when to stop.
I can't imagine how blessed I am with kids nor do I tolerate childhood 'crazy ness'. So if a parent has a wild child, they need the tools to help out. I know Peterson whooped his boy something fierce but it just doesn't register on my outrage scale. The deliberate beating of another person is far past that because he was trying to discipline his kid. He needs education.
andthebeatgoeson
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Oh, that same bull shit used to blame black people for the passage of prop 8?
n00bsauce87
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Saw the FFXV trailer. Man, I've never been so excited for the new FF game since maybe... no never. I mean FF9 may come close, but that's it.
Protag was like I woke up in that new Bugatti
Protag was like I woke up in that new Bugatti
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totally. RE6 is great.
ViewtifulJC
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Beats by Dre?
I ain't got Beats money. Beats by Xian Xi Weun maybe.
bobbychalkers
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I just heard this yesterday.... I actually fuck with it.
What did you get?
ViewtifulJC
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well, we all gotta make it somehow. Just expect to hear this tune comin out dem mothafuckas after a month's usage.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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My fellow Nigerians, do you find the Nigerian english accent sexy? Because I personally don't...I wonder if anyone finds their native/cultural accent particularly sexy
headphones.
When i hit the powerball I am going to pay the Swiss to craft me a set of headphones so good that everything I play sounds like Dreams is whispering in my ear.
When talk spanking with people who don't know much about they assume the extreme case. Spanking definitely a regional thing(southern in fact).
I believe the way you discipline a child depends on the child. Also believe at a certain age spanking becomes pointless because it easier to get your point/lesson across just by talking to them.
When I have kids I not going to whoop them because there are more effective way to punish them in this technological age. Also I am a big softy. I can't even kill an ant
I believe the way you discipline a child depends on the child. Also believe at a certain age spanking becomes pointless because it easier to get your point/lesson across just by talking to them.
When I have kids I not going to whoop them because there are more effective way to punish them in this technological age. Also I am a big softy. I can't even kill an ant
Pretty much, they were cheap and had good reviews.
MHWilliams
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That's always the worse.
"I'm disappointed in you."
No theatrics. Just the quiet statement.
MikeBreezy92
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That's always the worse.
"I'm disappointed in you."
No theatrics. Just the quiet statement.
Yo I've seen kids brush that shit off so quickly I just had to smh....
The level of disrespect is astounding.
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Retro_
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Probably because the parents do it so often. If you become predictable and nothing ever really comes from it kids will pick up on that.
I'm not saying hitting kids is the answer, but I don't think all punishment is bad. There definitely has to be some negative consequences to bad behavior other wise it won't stop.
Doing the "I'm disappointed" routine from the movies every time is the same as not doing anything I feel
Boss Riovane
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I have a family sized pork ribs I'm cooking for the big day on Saturday. I need to figure out what kinda marinade I'm making. I want to have them sitting in the marinade for at least 30+ hours. Any suggestions family?
Storm Chamber
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Everybody's guessing because the majority of the people taking part in the discussion don't even have kids
MikeBreezy92
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The games have been good though *shrug*
Old white men are losing money, you will now see shit go down.
lol damn 30+ how many people are you expecting or just killing all of them yourself?
that's an understatement
ITT: people don't know the beauty of slow cooked meat.
There needs to be a point where they turn on the radio , some hype rap shit comes on, and they wild the fuck out.
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