"According to data from IDC, the Quest 2's lifetime sales exceeded 14.8 million units by mid-2022. In contrast, the Xbox Series X/S had sold 11.4 million units by the end of 2021."
That following is going to break records initially like Xbox series when they run out to buy it but the overall number is too low to sustain them based on that following alone. They still need to convince people that aren't the diehards clinging on. They might just do it.
For what it's worth, that was Bethesda and it was long before Xbox owned them
And I believe that was before the holiday sales which is going to amplify Portal & Quest sales a lot while Xbox isn't putting much of an effort to push Series Consoles.
Both PS5 and PS4 outsold Xbox in India, 10:1. The PS5 Digital Edition costs as much as Series S in Amazon India and they have stopped selling Series X in India.
That's what a lot of people think but it's not true.
So you mean PC gaming? Why would PC gamers buy a Xbox?
India is the new 1% of ChinaBoth PS5 and PS4 outsold Xbox in India, 10:1. The PS5 Digital Edition costs as much as Series S in Amazon India and they have stopped selling Series X in India.
Playstation really is a global brand.Even the respective Xbox and PS5 subreddits
The 10:1 share is reflected in reddit.
Even the Middle East. Playstation probably has presence in any country with a decent gaming audience. Its cheaper than building a gaming PC in most countries.India is the new 1% of China
Yes that's the reality but I was talking about the meme from when a Xbox fan said that Xbox was going to win thanks to being available in China and only needed 1% of China
You don't say.
Concrete as in weekly/monthly or yearly totals provided by MS, sony or Meta but the IDC estimates and limited retail sales figures show what OnQ is saying is true. That:
Trust me they know this but just wanted to be a distraction.
IDC quotes from 2022 using Series X numbers as a comparison doesn't tell us anything.
Series X and S, not just X. Why doesn't it tell you anything?
Counting Portal as an accessory would make it even worse for xbox because it can only sell to those with a main system but Portal can be a platform now too because you don't need a PS5 to use it. Cloud streaming released recently. Anyway the PS portal released late 2023 (Nov) by late 2024 it had sold 2 million in 1 year. What is your estimate of global sales for xbox in 2024 in that year? Some estimates put it at around 2 million too. This year portal did well and xbox collapsed further so I'd be interested to hear how it wouldn't be "gaining ground" on it.
What has this rant of yours got to do with what we're discussing? You asked for that specific data, I provided it. I didnt say they're competing with eachother or say that Quest isn't the majority selling VR headset. You don't need to deflect with nonsense. OnQ was right again, you're looking for a distraction to the topic.
You're roughly 3 years too early on this.
In the last week or so, the Portal has sold more than 30k units on Amazon US.
I don't see how. Valve hasn't officially released SteamOS for everyone yet and Windows/XboxApp fullscreen mode is still in beta.
I meant Series consoles. Series X is a force of habit.
Microsoft will be a part of gaming for the foreseeable future being the biggest publisher out there. As for consoles, Xbox has done great things for the industry and the gamers over the years. They're obviously not interested in it anymore, though.
Sounds like your type of place if you know all about itYou should look into it. I think you and a few other users would fit in extremely well there.
Like I said if you're researching it you must like it , I don't have a clue about it & don't care
Cloud will become the series x with magnus being the higher tier going forward is my guess.
Xbox Cloud Gaming with Game Pass Up 45%, Now Available in Nearly 30 Countries - Xbox Wire
Xbox Cloud Gaming continues to spread around the world, bringing the excellent Game Pass catalogue to more players than ever before.news.xbox.com
Cloud Gaming grew 45%. They aren't worried about selling few more consoles. They just expanded into India, which is the largest gaming market, over 500 million gamers.
For hardware, they are going after the premium hardcore userbase of Pro consoles, with Magnus. Users with the highest spend capacity and usually highest attach rate.
Is India the 2025 version of China's "1 billion customers"?
Yeah because PS1 and PS2 didn't happen. And then Xbox influenced Sony with paying to play online, PC ports of exclusives and live service push.
$600 was not arrogance though. The OG fat PS3 cost them $840 to manufacture. Remember Xbox 360 had paying to play online but Sony offered online play for free.
The industry is doing better than ever overall the question is how will one of the big players no longer competing at the mass consumer level affect the outlook.
This isn't a Gaming is doomed thread it's a question about how it will look going forward.
What is the deal with you Xbox refugees? Now MS is on the back foot all of a sudden the walled garden is shite, but it was perfectly acceptable when you were feeling on top of the world on the outset of this gen with the series consoles. All that excitement over the potential loss of the biggest games for Playstation gamers when MS got their acquisitions over the line, but now exclusives are evil as MS becomes more of a third party developer. Finally we have PC as the saviour of gaming and coincidentally MS central to that too with their dominance in the desktop OS. The general consensus among the MS faithful is that they are going to win out because the trifecta of cloud, gamepass, and the eventual dominance windows/PC in the gaming space and the mass migration of console users. Unless of course they buy the magnificent Magnus which is both console and PC. How can MS lose? You have the temerity to point people in the direction of icon era when you yourself are one of the biggest fanboys on this forum.
I'm expecting the opposite.
It all sounds nice, but Sony would probably be the first major global company to use a near-monopoly in its segment to actually do something good for customers and suppliers. After all, those companies always prioritize growth and profit. For me, Nintendo isn't a serious alternative either - the Switch is simply too weak and lacks too many third-party games.
You're coming at me with alt accusations without anything to back it up. Prove it or stfu. I've visited icon era in the past, just as many have here, mainly because they had screenshots of a in development game. It soon became apparent what a cesspool it was with all the meltdowns about PS. NeoGAF is the only forum I've made an account with.
