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Windows Phone |OT3| Apollo has landed
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VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I'm not posting over there. For two reasons:
1. The Apple fanboys ACTUALLY, TRULY believe that the iPhone takes better pictures than the 1020. How much of a reality distortion field do you have to operate in where you can ignore the 50 or so blogs and subsequent neogaf threads that have pointed out the exact opposite results, then casually pop into that thread and go "yep, makes sense, Apple is just THAT GOOD". To believe that Apple can overcome a massive sensor size, low light, and megapixel deficit through magic? You simply cannot make a cogent enough argument to overcome that strong a cognitive dissonance.
2. I would be agreeing with zomgbbqsony. And I'm not emotionally prepared to do that just yet.
lastflowers
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I chortled. After this, I just don't know what to say if this were anywhere near the truth:
juliushandle
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Nokia showed off their own wireless portable qi chargers at Nokia World. They come in Lumia colors too.
So many dislikes because they said it still lagged and had that Android phones had a mediocre camera :lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWD6O53F6yc
There was a bit of hyperbole there, don't blame them. Like you guys don't get upset with every word the verge says.
Anyway, 16GB N5 ordered!
eh... price too high? It has better specs than an S4 which costs $700. I get that android is not your thing but cmon on the price.
Relative to the Nexus 4 it's too high. Instead of the 16GB replacing where the 8GB was in price terms they've just kept it the same and added another one on top.
As for the price against the S4, there is only £40 of difference between the two here SIM free, it's not undercutting it by much at all.
What are the prices of both phones there? Unlocked.
Here is a huge difference, which is why I was puzzled.
$350 vs $700
Although even 40 pounds diff I would get an N5 over and S4 any day.
Yep that's the price for both devices unlocked here. £350 for an unlocked N5 vs £390 for an unlocked S4.
I would take it if given the choice too between a N5 and a S4 but it's not the same bargain that the Nexus 4 was. I wouldn't be as cold towards it if they'd kept the pricing tiers similar to the N4 with a bit of an increase, so the lower capacity one could've been £259 and the higher £299 rather than the prices we have now.
Anybody experiencing random reboots? Lumia 920, GDR3 here. I've only had those reboots 2 times since launch, but after updating to GDR3 it reboots quite frequently.
How do I know? I always have my volume at 16, and multiple times per day I see it go to 13 (default it seems) and I have to put it back to 16.
How do I know? I always have my volume at 16, and multiple times per day I see it go to 13 (default it seems) and I have to put it back to 16.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Reboots and lockups are a real issue on the lumias. I won't generalize to every phone, but my wife's and brother in law's 920s both lock up way too frequently. I was hoping gdr2 would fix it, but I witnessed my wife's phone lock up just a few days ago. My 1020 has been stable as far as I can tell, although I will keep my eye out for restarts when I'm not looking. She is not happy and is considering moving away from lumias next year if Nokia can't get a handle on this by update 3.
In other news, another boring ass update from Google. *yawn*. Still trying to get me to use google plus, screw those guys. I hope MS brings it with Blue, cause Apple and Google aren't doing anything to lure me. To be fair, those OS's are already more mature and feature rich than WP, so MS has more room to grow anyway. Lets see if they take advantage.
In other news, another boring ass update from Google. *yawn*. Still trying to get me to use google plus, screw those guys. I hope MS brings it with Blue, cause Apple and Google aren't doing anything to lure me. To be fair, those OS's are already more mature and feature rich than WP, so MS has more room to grow anyway. Lets see if they take advantage.
My Lumia 920 battery life has been much improved after doing a factory reset. Now I can get through the day with no issues. (It also fixed my MMS issue) But doing a factory reset takes forever and its best if you have a back up phone. Luckily I picked up an HTC 8X for cheap on craigslist so I had a working phone. I like the 8X - feels great in the hand and the internal amplifier on Beats branded HTC phones do make a difference. The Lumia 920's camera in low light is much better though, although in good light they're pretty comparable.
I just ordered a Nexus 5 today (yaay to working Facebook notifications) so I'll be selling my Lumia 920. I'm going to keep the 8X as a backup phone and it'll get more use as a music player. I liked the Nokia though and will keep an eye out for the 920's successor (the 925 is too similar). Hopefully battery life will improve (most days I have no issue getting through the day, but web browsing does drain the battery quicker than I would like) and the camera will be upgraded to the camera used in the Lumia 1520.
I just ordered a Nexus 5 today (yaay to working Facebook notifications) so I'll be selling my Lumia 920. I'm going to keep the 8X as a backup phone and it'll get more use as a music player. I liked the Nokia though and will keep an eye out for the 920's successor (the 925 is too similar). Hopefully battery life will improve (most days I have no issue getting through the day, but web browsing does drain the battery quicker than I would like) and the camera will be upgraded to the camera used in the Lumia 1520.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
You sold the Lumia and kept the 8x? Not what I would've done, that's for sure. I'm considering selling my One X and some other junk to pick up a N5 too, but obviously the N5 would be my backup phone/plaything. Not sure if I'll do that yet though, very tempting given the hardware.
Haven't sold it yet, but I can get more for the Lumia 920. I plan on using the Nexus 5 as my main device, so the 8x as a back up device is fine, and I prefer it as a music player over the Lumia 920. But my experience with the Nokia (most notably the build quality and camera, the exclusive apps are meh) makes me very interested in their next flagship. I don't really care for the size of the 1520.
Amazing
lastflowers
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my mom called me because she thought not letting people search using bing was part of the daily image. Her company uses ie9, and I think it just wouldn't let her search for anything because [I-dunno]. I taught her in the invaluable ctrl+e trick and let her be on her merry way.
lastflowers
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Take it to the store
Just did, HTC told me they won't fix any non-local sets. Guess I'm screwed that way too (suppose that's a sign to not buy phones from them anymore). Time to run around looking for a microsim to sim adaptor and hope my Omnia 7 still works I guess.
Do it. Do it.
Ah understood. Its a crazy deal on this side of the pond.
Everything you guys get is a good deal
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Call HTC America then. They've been helpful in the past for me.
I'd really like to see a scientific study of various voice recognition solutions in multiple languages. Google apparently improved their voice recognition again: http://allthingsd.com/20131031/google-claims-great-leaps-forward-in-voice-search/
"Last year Google added a machine-learning technique called deep neural networks to its voice search. The speech recognition error rate decreased by 20 percent.Since then, Google’s voice team has kept tweaking the service, resulting in another 25 percent increase in speech recognition accuracy."
That sounds great, but it doesn't tell you anything about how well it actually works and how it compares to TellMe and Nuance's tech.
Personally, I don't have much experience with any of the services, but from what I see and hear it always sounds like Google >= Nuance >> TellMe. No idea if TellMe is actually competitive or not.
"Last year Google added a machine-learning technique called deep neural networks to its voice search. The speech recognition error rate decreased by 20 percent.Since then, Google’s voice team has kept tweaking the service, resulting in another 25 percent increase in speech recognition accuracy."
That sounds great, but it doesn't tell you anything about how well it actually works and how it compares to TellMe and Nuance's tech.
Personally, I don't have much experience with any of the services, but from what I see and hear it always sounds like Google >= Nuance >> TellMe. No idea if TellMe is actually competitive or not.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I have no idea who Nuance is, but Google's voice recognition is absolutely fantastic. It's ridiculously accurate and insanely fast.*
TellMe got a lot better with that big update they did a short while back, making it faster and more accurate as well. But Cortana really needs to bring it to compete with Google.*
I have very little experience with Siri but was not impressed.
*In English, no idea about any other language. I speak Spanish but all my phone interactions are in English.
Nuance does the voice recognition for Siri. They've been a big player in voice recognition for a long time. They mostly did Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC.
I doubt Microsoft is going to bring it. At this point I don't think they can match Google at anything. Good thing almost no one really uses voice input for now.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I think cortana will be interesting. We will see, but its not impossible, they just need to make it a wash, and they're not that far off right now.
MS surpasses Google in productivity software, desktop operating systems, design, online file storage, social media integration, and hardware. That's just off the top of my head. Weird comment.
Progress.
http://www.counterpointresearch.com...th-largest-smartphone-brand-in-usa-in-q3-2013
Someone should make a thread. It's pretty big considering Nokia has surpassed both Motorola and HTC. If only they had gone Android.
Pretty crazy since Nokia was basically a non-brand in the US correct?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I already signed up for the beta.
Yeah that is pretty big.
brotkasten
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I have to say, I really like all the little improvements that KitKat brings, especially the smart dailer. It really seems like such an obvious thing to do and yet neither Apple nor Microsoft did it. Heck, the Windows Phone dailer is dumb as hell, even compared to the current iOS and Android version. The design got better as well. Great improvements, really.
That said, I'm fucking done with Google for now. They introduce a new version of their mobile OS, with new optimizations on the memory front, to make it run better on 512 MB RAM devices in general (most likely to counter Windows Phone) and then they don't even fucking support their own device they sold last year. "Sry guyz, no Galaxy Nexus support anymore, because no one else supports their devices for moar than 18 months, lulz".
Fucking hell.
That said, I'm fucking done with Google for now. They introduce a new version of their mobile OS, with new optimizations on the memory front, to make it run better on 512 MB RAM devices in general (most likely to counter Windows Phone) and then they don't even fucking support their own device they sold last year. "Sry guyz, no Galaxy Nexus support anymore, because no one else supports their devices for moar than 18 months, lulz".
Fucking hell.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
LOVE the new smart dialer in Kit Kat. Everything else was "meh" to me, but the dialer.....I want MS to copy that idea wholesale.
megarockexe
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Any idea why I should ever be getting nasty battery drains on my 920? It definitely had more than 70% battery in the morning. Then 3 hours of standby later, its off and feels 2 pounds lighter. When I went to charge it, it was at 0%. I just did some light browsing.
antiquegamer
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Some background task got stuck, my problems are usually Facebook beta app and occasionally Nokia Here Drive. I finally removed the FB beta and make sure I closed Drive after I used it.
I had this for a while too, but unfortunately Windows Phone doesn't tell you which apps are causing this. I did a factory reset because I had issues with mms, and after the factory reset my battery problems went away. I even restored apps and settings too and don't have battery issues.
The Faceless Master
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At least they release the source. Think of all the Omnia 7 owners...
Kamakazie!
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Standard IE?
Just about everything but mainly:
- No quick switch between tabs
- No open tab in background
- No quick close tab
- Max of 6 tabs with first tab auto closing when a 7th opened rather than being asked what to do
I use IE for 99% of my non-call and text stuff so it is the single most important application for me.
Kamakazie!
Member
Thanks. Careful consideration required it seems.
It is secure enough because banks and credit cards often have additional security on top of your username and password anyway... so even in the unlikely scenario that mint compromises everything you still have additional security.
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