Watch_Dogs PC performance thread [Read post #1215 before posting]

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cripterion

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not reading the thread is awesome.

That being said, am I the only person who thinks this game is awesome?

It is a fun game, but I have no doubt I'll get bored of it eventually. In the meantime, looking forward to some wild online decryptions!
 

ttech10

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not reading the thread is awesome.

That being said, am I the only person who thinks this game is awesome?

A lot of my games are definitely going to collect dust. And I'm guessing a lot of people are going to forget about GTA: Online and when it's going to finally get heists.
 

scitek

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A new PC performance thread would have the same stipulations as this one.

Well. I think a new PC Performance thread might not be a bad idea seeing as how many of the complaints of poor performance may have been from cracked versions of the game, I don't know that I'll be able to trust any of the info on settings and whatnot until the game's officially out and possibly even day-1 patched.
 

maneil99

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Well. I think a new PC Performance thread might not be a bad idea seeing as how many of the complaints of poor performance may have been from cracked versions of the game, I don't know that I'll be able to trust any of the info on settings and whatnot until the game's officially out and possibly even day-1 patched.
When do we draw the line, new drivers will continue to improve performance
 

scitek

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When do we draw the line, new drivers will continue to improve performance

Just sayin' having to go to page 15 or whatever of a PC performance thread to start finding info I feel I can trust for sure kind of defeats the purpose of having a dedicated thread.
 

Nydius

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That being said, am I the only person who thinks this game is awesome?

No. I just wish the campaign was a bit better written and Aiden didn't feel so bland but otherwise it's very fun. I can see this becoming a very successful franchise that won't be limited to Chicago going forward.
 

dmr87

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Well. I think a new PC Performance thread might not be a bad idea seeing as how many of the complaints of poor performance may have been from cracked versions of the game, I don't know that I'll be able to trust any of the info on settings and whatnot until the game's officially out and possibly even day-1 patched.

I agree, all impressions before the game is out might as well be considered invalid. Along with an un-updated OP that won't help anyone.
 

F34R

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I went against the idea of negative impressions equal no buy. Despite the not so good impressions I've read here, I bought it anyways.
 

UX Genes

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I am under the impression that "Free Roam" online is the entire city. Anyone know if this is true? I read somewhere that it is "limited".
 

F34R

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I'd be ok with a limited area. GTAV's map size was a little too big for 16 players. It was possible to never run into anyone.

I kinda think it'd be awesome that you really don't know right off who is real, and who is an NPC. Walk around the map, it's huge, and you don't really know how many real people you've passed by, etc.

That would be pretty nifty.
 

UX Genes

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I'd be ok with a limited area. GTAV's map size was a little too big for 16 players. It was possible to never run into anyone.

Personally, this is the only thing about the game that could bring me WAY down on it.

After I complete the campaign, basically my brother and I just wreak havoc on the city. I really hope it isn't limited, at least for Free Roam specifically.
 

golem

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The game itself sounds pretty good. Negative impressions are mostly from the performance but it looks pretty good in screenshots and as long as it holds above 30 fps or so I'll be happy.
 

cripterion

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I kinda think it'd be awesome that you really don't know right off who is real, and who is an NPC. Walk around the map, it's huge, and you don't really know how many real people you've passed by, etc.

That would be pretty nifty.

The lack of mechanics for the invader to act like an NPC though kinds sucks. It's even more disappointing considering in asscreed games you can blend in the crowd or sit on a bench. Missed opportunity here but maybe due to balancing since it would be pretty hard to spot the hacker then.
 

Timu

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Oh wow, this thread took a huge turn from the other day. Anyways, the game is in my Uplay games list as shown here with a pic I taken recently:

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I don't use Uplay much, but these are the only games I got for it, making Watch Dogs the 3rd game I own for that service. I was going to buy it on Steam this week but after hearing the news I just couldn't wait since this is one of most anticipated games of the year after all so I went for Uplay. After all that I went straight to offline mode playing it for hours, enjoying what I played and only listed how much VRAM it took at 1440p between settings in this thread. I did a 1080p test that I forgot to put on here but lets just say it takes around 3GB VRAM still at that res depending on the settings. I hope to share more about Watch Dogs because I have a lot to say about the game, from hacking to combat and more.
 

ttech10

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I am under the impression that "Free Roam" online is the entire city. Anyone know if this is true? I read somewhere that it is "limited".

I've been wondering this myself. It's limited to just current gen hardware, so a limited area would be almost expected, as if they could get the whole city working on current gen then they could maybe get a smaller section working for previous gen.
 
Had to order some fan pin adapters, because this game would undoubtedly melt my 4770k otherwise. Thought everything was fine with my setup until Battleblock Theater was pushing my CPU temperature into the upper 70's.
 

slapnuts

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I have a 4670k running @ 4.2 with a Noctura D14. I didn't win the silicon lottery and I can't get past 4.2. With 8-core consoles being the norm & possible dev lead for the next 7yrs or so and WD being an unoptimized pig (I know updates are coming,) should I be thinking about grabbing an AMD 8-core chip/mobo? They're pretty cheap and I'm not super picky. I knew I should've gone with the 4770k.

I'm running W7 64-bit, have a 280x & 16gb of ballistix. I want to run ultra the best I can without grabbing another 280x and switching out my power supply.

Thank you,
James

Yeah some people were showing an improvement with i7's over i5's at another site. Even some other games out show improvement with i7's and those extra "threads". Im referring to recent cross gen games that are on both PC and PS4/X1.

I remember last year asking around which cpu i should go with for a 3 year run..."allmost" everyone kept sreaming" 3570k is more than enough and the 3770k i was leaning towards...everyone was saying "it's waste of extra money and the extra threads wont mean nothing for next gen games".

Well i feel much better going with the i7 3770k, it overclcoked to 4.6ghz stable ...but i delidded it and it runs stalbe at 5ghz. Although i keep it at 4.6ghz for the time being...i'll use the 5ghz later on when needed a extra boost.

I also got lucky with a Sapphire 7970...i originally bought a Gigabyte 7870 but i got rid of it quickly because it OC'd bad...Once i got the sapphire 7970 Ghz Edition....i got super lucky because it OC's to 1200mhz Core/1650mhz memory. That is about 4.4TF of GPU power. I got a pretty decent setup for around a grand. 1080p/60fps is the highest i go with it because i have the rig connected to a 55" Plasma in the living room...

My I7 overclock matches "perfectly" with my GPU overclcok...i got a really big bang for the buck on my current main setup.

Hopefully watchdogs runs good on my machine...."IF" i decide to get the game. Im still not sure yet. From the comments i've read thus far i am a bit undecided if i should get the game but i do see the i7's making great use of the extra threads!!
 
wait, was no preload for anything confirmed? I saw a couple people posting that there wasnt going to be. That is extremely disappointing. Tomorrow when it unlocks will be fun...Dont fail on me uplay
 

slapnuts

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Yeah, I'm sure there is a shift towards more threads going on, but if there are benchmarks that would indicate 8 jaguar cores could ever beat a 2500k under any circumstances I'd love to see them... would have to be something highly parallel, yet not parallel enough (or not possible) to be better run on a GPU. But even then, I'm skeptical until I see benchmarks..

And hell yeah, 8800gt. Beast. Will probably stay on 4 year upgrade cycle for now; 2007 (8800gt), 2011 (560ti), 2015 (860/ti?).
I think it all depends on how the engine was developed. Things are a bit different now...last gen engines were more single core orientated even though the 360 and PS3 were actually multi core CPU machines...now there is more of direct dedication to truly utilizing these extra cores and threads than last gen...benchmarks from recent games have clearly proven this already at various PC enthusiast sites. Extra cores and threads will make a bigger difference this gen compared to last gen.

Im not saying brute force cannot help make up some performance but like i said..new engines being made from this point on will heavily be influenced by 8 cores/threads compared to last gen.

Intel i7's and AMD's 8 core cpu's will help a great deal with these new xbox one and PS4 ports on PC's imho.

Like i said in my earlier post - I am so glad i never listened to the huge amount of people that said i7's were going to be a waste for next gen and which was so baffling to me at the time was this was late last summer when we knew the spec's already for PS4 and X1. People still thought that extra threads were not going to benefit anything at all for future next gen PC games and ported next gen console games to PC's. I hate to say it but a lot of people are eating crow right now. I say this because i bitterly got chewed up and spit out at a few PC sites when i opted to go with a 3770k over their recommended 3570k. They said i was a fool and just threw a 100 dollars out of the window....lol some were actually angry with me for not siding with them on their logic. My gut feeling always told me i7's were better fit for next gen games and now we are seeing this to be true.. and it gets truer by the day.

By the way...those that have a 3570k/45 or older i5, in no way am i am saying your CPU isnt capable. These i5's are still so much more powerful than the laptop cpu's in these new consoles and will still do their job...alll i am saying is that there is better performance to be had with i7's or AMD 8 core PC proc's.
 

GHG

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So it now becomes clear why i never got a response to this:

Posting from the OT as I figured its more likely someone in this thready would know:

Does anyone know of a key seller who is already sending out uplay PC codes? PM me if you need to.

I'd like to start playing this today if possible.

PC GAF you dissapoint me. Lots of you have PCs that cost upwards of $1000 and you still pirate games? Really...?

I'm not suprised people are complaining about stuttering when your computer is probably riddled with bitcoin mining viruses and god knows what else.

Thanks for the great screenshots that killed the downgrade trolls in the OT though.
 

maneil99

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So it now becomes clear why i never got a response to this:



PC GAF you dissapoint me. Lots of you have PCs that cost upwards of $1000 and you still pirate games? Really...?

I'm not suprised people are complaining about stuttering when your computer is probably riddled with bitcoin mining viruses and god knows what else.

Thanks for the great screenshots that killed the downgrade trolls in the OT though.
Are you suggesting there was no downgrade
 

Grief.exe

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Like i said in my earlier post - I am so glad i never listened to the huge amount of people that said i7's were going to be a waste for next gen and which was so baffling to me at the time was this was late last summer when we knew the spec's already for PS4 and X1.

I find it hard to believe that someone would have told you that. Its not that I don't trust your word, after all you don't have to look very far to find idiocy on the internet, just having a tough time wrapping my head around the shear incompetence and ignorance.

In fact, I am running out of adjectives to accurately describe just how foolish such a statement would be.

Sure, 5 years ago it was difficult to recommend a processor such as an i7 with hyper-threading as they were expensive and there weren't many multi-threaded applications. We knew that would change going forward even without the exact specs of the next-gen consoles to go off of.
 

Xyber

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So it now becomes clear why i never got a response to this:



PC GAF you dissapoint me. Lots of you have PCs that cost upwards of $1000 and you still pirate games? Really...?

I'm not suprised people are complaining about stuttering when your computer is probably riddled with bitcoin mining viruses and god knows what else.

Thanks for the great screenshots that killed the downgrade trolls in the OT though.

Stuttering is not because of that mining virus, I can promise you that. And apart from that one 4chan post I haven't actually seen anyone who has that virus. That guy was most likely already infected from something else.
 

Brofist

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so not even an Intel Core i5 4670K can run this game :/

It'll run fine on that CPU.

Nothing has changed much, i5 4670K is still a very competent CPU. The only difference is before it was consensus that an i5 was more than enough for a gaming PC, now we may be getting to the point where owning an i7 is a more than just a luxury. So for people buying a new CPU from now it may be worth the higher price.
 

GHG

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Are you suggesting there was no downgrade

Not at all. But it has been greatly overstated by a lot of members on here.

As will all games with dynamic TOD and weather, the game will have its moments where it doesnt look its best, but it can also look amazing at other moments. There are times when it looks pretty damn close to the reveal trailer... Well close enough to keep most happy.
 

Trace

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Not at all. But it has been greatly overstated by a lot of members on here.

As will all games with dynamic TOD and weather, the game will have its moments where it doesnt look its best, but it can also look amazing at other moments. There are times when it looks pretty damn close to the reveal trailer... Well close enough to keep most happy.

Been what I've been saying for a week and a half. If you get similar ToD and weather to the reveal, it does look very similar. If they had shown daytime in the reveal, maybe all these downgrade comments wouldn't be as crazy as they are.
 

Grief.exe

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Definitely interested in seeing how it works for 560 ti. I'd probably still want to play on PS4 instead, but I do want to know whether my PC can actually keep up or if it's going to be knocked aside too easily already.

Yeah, 560ti is what I have (paired with 2550k). I need an upgrade, but am trying to hold out for 860 or 860ti next year. Potential iffy performance with 560ti is one reason I'm likely to wait on a cheaper price for this game (well, that and the creeping suspicion that it is going to play way too much like a GTA/AC hybrid for my liking). Though Ubi would have me believe my 2550k is a bigger cause for concern than the 560ti.

Looking forward to the full range of "proper" benchmarks to help me decide if/when I purchase this. Waiting for the late Wii U port might also be an option depending on many factors.

I picked up a used 560 ti for SLI years ago and it was one of the best $100 I have ever spent.

Set up handles anything I throw at it so far with some minor considerations for the 1GB of VRAM.

Will probably spring for a 980 or AMD equivalent next year.
 

Eusis

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Probably worth considering looking into a used 560 Ti instead, though I suspect by the time I'd seriously want to grab it there'd be better options for cheap anyway. Certainly I could probably SLI two 650s at lower power consumption and not much more expensive, and with fresher cards to boot.

... And I honestly kind of expect that if i5s can't keep up it's more due to poor optimization than the CPUs being too weak. Probably depends on how much the games NEED multi threading, but we've had plenty of weak ports in the past and in all likelihood will continue to have weak ports. Though an i7 might be worth getting just for in home Steam streaming if I'm right in assuming the extra threads help a lot for that.
 

Grief.exe

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Probably worth considering looking into a used 560 Ti instead, though I suspect by the time I'd seriously want to grab it there'd be better options for cheap anyway. Certainly I could probably SLI two 650s at lower power consumption and not much more expensive, and with fresher cards to boot.

... And I honestly kind of expect that if i5s can't keep up it's more due to poor optimization than the CPUs being too weak. Probably depends on how much the games NEED multi threading, but we've had plenty of weak ports in the past and in all likelihood will continue to have weak ports. Though an i7 might be worth getting just for in home Steam streaming if I'm right in assuming the extra threads help a lot for that.

I believe you also get Nvidia features such as shadowplay and streaming with the 600 series as well.
 

Eusis

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I believe you also get Nvidia features such as shadowplay and streaming with the 600 series as well.
Yeah, that's one of the big reasons I'm not fond of going SLI/Crossfire for cheap upgrade paths, usually the newer cards have more capabilities and features such as support for new DirectX versions or things like that and Gsync. Nevermind that some games just don't play right with SLI and so you get one card effectively just generating unnecessary heat.
 
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