If that movie came out around John Wick, we would have been talking about Dredd 2.
Deadpool shatters record with $47.5M opening day
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If that movie came out around John Wick, we would have been talking about Dredd 2.
Strangelove77
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"Record breaking" sounds nice, but it sounds less nice when you mention that its for the shitty month of February and that its specifically for an r rated film.
I dont mean to shit on the wankfest happening here, but people are seeing a very different thing than is happening. Marvel is not going to respond, DC is not going to copy, and no one is going to turn their pg13 movies into R rated movies. It wont make them more money than theyre already making. Pg13 Avengers and Batman movies will stomp the shit out of Deadpool financialy and will keep doing it from now til the end. An R rating does not make money, a funny Deadpool movie despite it's R rating makes money. Thats all there is to it.
The good thing here is that a very specific type of superhero movie was a)well made and b)financially successful. The loudmouth internet crowd actually left their houses to pay to see a movie they were hyping. That doesnt happen often.
It wont retroactively change anything, but now when someone has an idea for this type of movie, there's an example that proves it can work.
I dont mean to shit on the wankfest happening here, but people are seeing a very different thing than is happening. Marvel is not going to respond, DC is not going to copy, and no one is going to turn their pg13 movies into R rated movies. It wont make them more money than theyre already making. Pg13 Avengers and Batman movies will stomp the shit out of Deadpool financialy and will keep doing it from now til the end. An R rating does not make money, a funny Deadpool movie despite it's R rating makes money. Thats all there is to it.
The good thing here is that a very specific type of superhero movie was a)well made and b)financially successful. The loudmouth internet crowd actually left their houses to pay to see a movie they were hyping. That doesnt happen often.
It wont retroactively change anything, but now when someone has an idea for this type of movie, there's an example that proves it can work.
CitizenVectron
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A $45 million opening day is good for any rating, buddy.
Doc Holliday
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When a movie makes more than $100m OW its a hell of lot more than just the loudmouth internet crowd watching it. Genius marketing and reviews picked up a lot of the general audience.
Also the $200+M budget +$100M marketing tentpole superhero movies will have an uphill battle in becoming more financially successfully than Deadpool.
This movie is about to break into the top 10 OW's for comic book movies period and likely gross more than Man of Steel and any X-Men movie.
You're bonkers if you think at least one studio isn't going to react to this.
Deadpool is as funny as it is because of the R-rating. This movie absolutely would not be as good or successful as a PG-13 film.
Though I agree that just slapping an R-rating on a film isn't the answer. A quality film with an R-rating and the right marketing can succeed.
And let's not kid ourselves; Deadpool's marketing team deserves as SERIOUS raise. I saw the trailers for films like Dredd and considered passing them up altogether because of how bland they looked, but Deadpool's marketing has been nothing short of genius.
And, again, with a super-low budget (comparatively), Deadpool is absolutely going to be making SERIOUS bank, and studios love low-risk, high-reward films. Deadpool cost only a fraction of a typical Marvel movie's budget, yet it's going to make a much higher percentage of profit.
Well, most obviously, because the Nolan Batman films made more than that.
And yet, kids love those movies, so why would the studios change anything when it would potentially decrease the teen/adult audience? It's not like animated superhero movies are unusual; we've already had The Incredibles and Big Hero 6.
Obliterator
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What an off base assessment of whats happening here. If this thing does a 100 million or more opening thats a giant hit for any film of any rating. Especially with the budget size Deadpool has. You dont get those types of numbers without attracting the mainstream audience
Deadpool was tracking to have the #1 opening weekend for an R-Rated film yesterday.
who the hell is saying R means instant success? it also has to be a good movie
Bobby Roberts
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Here's the thing: Fox did this last year already. Right around the same time, too. Not as successfully, obviously.
But they called it Kingsman last year. They made a crude, silly, violent action-comedy that both poked fun at, and paid homage to, a specific style of action movie. They released it on Valentine's weekend, and watched as it made a lot of money for them.
So this year, they made a crude, silly, violent action-comedy that both poked fun at, and paid homage to, a specific style of action movie. They released it on Valentine's weekend, and watched as it made a lot of money for them.
Seriously: we just saw this happen last year.
I feel like you're not getting what I'm putting down here.
You named two
So yeah, they're pretty unusual. Especially considering the amount of money and critical acclaim both of those recieved.
But they called it Kingsman last year. They made a crude, silly, violent action-comedy that both poked fun at, and paid homage to, a specific style of action movie. They released it on Valentine's weekend, and watched as it made a lot of money for them.
So this year, they made a crude, silly, violent action-comedy that both poked fun at, and paid homage to, a specific style of action movie. They released it on Valentine's weekend, and watched as it made a lot of money for them.
Seriously: we just saw this happen last year.
I feel like you're not getting what I'm putting down here.
You named two
So yeah, they're pretty unusual. Especially considering the amount of money and critical acclaim both of those recieved.
Rastafarian42
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Lol at people thinking this would flop Deadpool is known to some degree he's had His own game, been in games and other media. The movie just had to be good and marketed right and that was the case here. Happy it finally got made bring on the sequel.
The Broken Ska Record
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Did Kingsmen do well in cinemas? For some reason I thought it was the home video market that helped it.
Pretty sure you had to same argument. You was right then and right now
Pop-O-Matic
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The fact that Kingsman happened a year ago is making me feel like time is slipping away from me...
Man of Steel has a gross of $668 million while the last X-Men movie has a gross of $747 million. Deadpool's a big success, but I think you're making a pretty big assumption there. It's not likely to pass those two at all.
This would be a domestic BO only comment I believe.
Deadpool will probably earn greater than 50% of its haul domestically.
Bobby Roberts
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It did pretty well. Looooong legs. 414 worldwide off an 80 budget. Just short of 130 domestic.
Granted, it wasn't directly tied to Bond the way Deadpool is directly tied to X-Men. But while this is surprising (and it is surprising. This is a lot of money. It'll probably clear Kingsman's domestic by Tuesday) it probably shouldn't be that surprising considering the studio, the date, and the type of movie we're talking about.
Futurematic
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It did enough in the theatre to make a sequel pretty certain. So does Fox just lock up the next couple Valentine's Days for Kingsman and Deadpool sequels?
I was thinking domestically, where it's a lock unless Deadpool has the shittiest legs in the world. Regardless, I've seen reports where Deadpool is opening higher than DofP in multiple markets. I think it will be close, and possibly pass Man of Steel, but miss out on DofP because of no China.
The Broken Ska Record
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I didn't realize that. I knew it was enough of a success that a sequel was being made, but I didn't know its initial run was so lucrative.
Yes but some assume R Rated Superhero movies should be the new norm. I do hope R rated action films should make a comeback after being put in the background in the late 00s.
Still irks me that they choose this and not taking risks like Deadpool does or any other movie. To think that there is more violence in movies from the 80's and 90's after 9/11 yeah i noticed it in a lot of movies that there were not as good movies in r-rated at all.
But also this gives a great insight on what happened to PG-13. I mean i grew up with gremlins etc all PG-13 and yet PG-13 today is hammered to something i do not wish to see at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-NeJRrgoTY
Still a great movie and yet another shame we will never see a sequel Karl Urban nailed it as Dredd.
The point being that they exist already and were reasonably successful, but they did not prompt any sort of reassessment of how the WB and Marvel adapt their films. Live action and PG-13 have proven themselves as optimal for getting both kids and adults.
PhoncipleBone
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Make a short film called "Deadpool Kills the Fantastic Four." It is Reynolds as Deadpool going around and killing the cast and crew of last year's FF movie.
I still haven't seen FF to see how bad it is.
Bobby Roberts
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Again, I'm not arguing that the status quo doesn't exist. I'm saying I'm curious as to how people are going to suggest that maybe it should shift (like they're doing now, in this thread, based on that R-rating) when an example of family-friendly superhero filmmaking does really well in the future.
Those two examples over the past 20 years, neither of which adapted from any recognizable, iconic property, are outliers despite their considerable success both financially, critically, and as superhero stories in and of themselves. I'm suggesting that people might start maybe thinking that said approach is a little more viable than previously (not) considered when it comes to big name superheroes, especially Batman & Superman, neither of whom have been developed or executed in a way that's even in the least family-friendly, much less barely kid-proofed in the last 20 years.
You're already seeing (and have been ever since 2009) suggestions that they should lighten the fuck up. I don't know why saying that the potential success of Lego Batman might amplify those suggestions is all that controversial for you.
CaviarMeths
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Well, Marvel Studios won't, but they've been having success with adult stuff on Netflix, so I don't really think they have to. Most I can see them doing is a Netflix original movie.
And every other studio either doesn't have licensing to do popular comic book adaptations or already has done R movies with them. WB has done the most with 300, V for Vendetta, Constantine, and Watchmen, but Fox (Kingsman), Sony (30 Days of Night), Universal (Kick-Ass), Lionsgate (Punisher), New Line (Blade), and Miramax (Sin City) have all done at least one each.
Disney has too, actually. Miramax was owned by Disney in the 90s, when they produced and distributed The Crow.
Deadpool will need pretty good legs to beat Man of Steel domestic.
As a box office nut, I'm so excited about this. R-rated superhero doing 100M OW? When it's a relatively obscure hero like Deadpool? Starring Ryan Reynolds? This is crazy. It has a solid chance of beating Man of Steel's OW with the WOM it's been getting. It had a bigger opening day than it at least.
Ridiculously excited to see it tonight.
Ridiculously excited to see it tonight.
SpookyFries
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My theater was completely packed last night. This included children as well.
The kid next to me couldn't have been any older than 12
The kid next to me couldn't have been any older than 12
Shadow Broker
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MoonKnight, Blade, X-Force, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Doom, and fucking Spiderman.
I wish Marvel would have kept more of their licenses.
Is there anyway for them to get them back?
I went to see this at the movie tavern. Loved every bit of it. It was too crude for my wife. Oh well.
shira
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Oh my god, imagine a movie with the 2015 cast. Deadpool makes fun of the movie and then as the movie goes along, the nature of Deadpool rubs off on them and they become the fun version of Fantastic Four they always deserved to be, but without the need for reboot.
That'd be sweet.
This opening is great for any superhero film not named Avengers, Iron Man, Batman, or Superman regardless of the month or rating.
The fact that it is R rated, released in February, and does not have the benefit of 3D makes it even more impressive not the opposite.
The Raid 2's plot is complete garbage so why would they.
Work on Dredd's screenplay began in 2006.
BlueTsunami
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All I know is, if Wolvie teams up with Deadpool I want Wolverine in Deadpools cinematic world, not the other way around.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Speaking of Kingsman - might be worth looking at its legs for an idea of where this film might ultimately end up.
Keep in mind, Kingsman didn't have the benefit of being directly tied to the property it was goofing on, too.
Keep in mind, Kingsman didn't have the benefit of being directly tied to the property it was goofing on, too.
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