Killjoy-NL
Member
It never was really polished.
It was the gunplay and the art direction where it shines, but technically it was really rough around the edges.
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It was the gunplay and the art direction where it shines, but technically it was really rough around the edges.
GHG
Gold Member
Was this being shit not obvious?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
2023-2024 is the era of woke games releasing after 6+ years of development and flopping.
Wonder what’s next… probably Dragon Age Veilguard, Avowed, and Fable
Wonder what’s next… probably Dragon Age Veilguard, Avowed, and Fable
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its didn't take Nostradamus to see this one coming
ViciousAgenda
Member
Apparently it did for some.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The game is a lot of fun. People are just so blinded by their culture war bullshit that two words in the upper corner of the character select screen ruins the game for them. I've put in about 5 hours last weekend and will hit the level cap this weekend and will be playing it on launch.
ViciousAgenda
Member
The same reductive argument over and over.
The pronoun thing is the least of its problems.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Have mentioned this before but including the test server I have over 800 hours in ARK Survival Evolved so its not for me to tell others what game to enjoy but the vast majority of gamers seemed united this game as presently shown was in trouble
Lets just say its 100% because of culture war BS (for me its not) haven't we seen enough by now that subject hurting games enough that you would think devs would stop trying to force it upon gamers?
Game had a chance 5+ years ago but I said this before and stand by it
This is the type of game that gets people fired and studios closed and then people rush to social media "Oh the poor people who lost their jobs"
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Yeah can you imagine......
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DAHGAMING
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diffusionx
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I really wanted Shartfield to be awesome. It’s a real bummer the game sucked but I’m not going to not pile on when it becomes clear.Yeah can you imagine......
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As for this game, seems like three years late. Even if it was the best playing game of its type (and it might be, Overwatch is garbage), it probably isn’t enough. Major misstep from Sony especially since they’ve shown no compunction about axing stuff.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Hey guys check out our hero shooter that we spent 6 years and $60 million developing. Preorder now and we’ll even let you play the beta!
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StereoVsn
Member
Once Beta hit a lot of people liked it, I thought, bugs and all. Doesn’t seem the case here. Now, weekend hasn’t really hit so numbers should go up, but probably not significantly.
Oh, sure. But the art direction, game concept and all things around the game do matter. Which Helldivers illustrated perfectly.
With Concord all of that went to shit. Higher ups are trying to shoehorn “modern game design” crap and gamers aren’t interested.
But that’s the point, right? Who wants another hero shooter with terrible character designs and apparently nothing special gameplay (not bad, not amazing).
Yep, and that’s what’s really bad about it. Regular devs in the trenches will be hurt and the upper management will hop on another game production to ruin.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I enjoyed my time with it. I don't see any point continuing with a game that's dead before arrival. The servers won't even last a year.
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BigBeauford
Member
If people can dismiss Days Gone because "generic white guy", people can also dismiss a game for only having one white guy (in retarded hockey pads no less).
ManaByte
Gold Member
The people cancelling this game over pronouns on one screen are absolutely no different than the woke idiots who boycotted Hogwarts Legacy. It's two sides of the same coin of stupid.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Two different situations. Starfield came from a company that has a huge history of releasing great games and franchises like Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, etc.Yeah can you imagine......
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The game was basically being called "Skyrim in space", came from a huge studio, after countless delays, one major acquisition and had a lot to prove...and people ended up criticizing the game for not releasing like the masterpiece they expected.
Concord comes from a new studio and the main criticism around places like GAF isn't even that the game is bad. It's pronouns, Overwatch-clone, mix of Overwatch and Destiny etc.
I can count with one hand how many people here actually criticized the game itself and specially the gameplay (which seems solid from what i heard).
That said...i'm actually realizing we're witnessing a shift in gaming and other entertaining forms. The non-binary characters, the marvel-type of writing, etc...has reached a point that it's actually turning people off instead of making them interested. And this game just took too long to come out.
I seriously hope if this flops the studio doesn't close cause it seems like they have a lot of talent to make a great FPS and Sony clearly needs that in their portfolio right now. Not many new studios could pull off a decent FPS online game on their first try even with money and it seems deep down, this game shows talent from the studio.
The first Halo wasn't the best game from the franchise, Destiny wasn't the best one from that franchise, COD's first entry wasn't their best as well.
Hopefully Sony can keep these guys around and give them a shot of making something they really want next instead of chasing trends from last decade.
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BigBeauford
Member
And yet people still made HL one of the highest selling games of the year. You are unknowingly making the argument that the audience Concord is courting doesn't actually exist.
fallingdove
Member
Kind of a stupid position to take.
Single player games are extremely expensive to make, represent thin margins even if they are moderately successful, and have very little staying power.
As a single player game lover myself. I need some of these GaaS games to be successful in the same way I need two door sports car companies to find success with an endless fleet of SUVs and crossovers. They finance the things I care about most.
I don’t get the sense that Sony has ever wanted to go full GaaS but they DO need the revenue GaaS games represent if we want any shot at having access to 20-30 hour single player titles with amazing experiences that require 5+ years development and $150M+ investment with little to no MTX. That’s just the way it is.
NickFire
Member
Knock that stupid nonsense off. No one is cancelling the game. Just saying no thank you. Already said no thank you to countless others. If people don’t like to listen that’s on them. If people are mentally ill and keep pushing out the same failures that’s between them and their doctors.
Comparing rejection with an outright campaign to cancel Hogwarts, ie refuse to say name in many media outlets, banning any mention of name on certain forums, is beyond the pale of intellectual honesty.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Most people who played it seem to like it (the gameplay at least), the problem is that most people don't even bother to try it.
Nobody here is arguing against that. I think it's safe to say that everybody st least agrees that they fucked up the reveal and that it created the issue they encounter right now.
The biggest question is how Firewalk is going to move on from here on out?
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
What "other side"?
Sonik
Member
ManaByte
Gold Member
This. People are refusing to try it and already decided to boycott it even before beta due to the pronouns on ONE SCREEN.
BigBeauford
Member
What I find so utterly cynical about Concord, is the same idea that the NFL has with its halftime shows. The NFL product is very appealing to its core demographic, so much so that they know they can get away with half-time shows their core audience detests because no one is going to stop watching.
Same assumption the Concorde developers made. They know the core audience is white heterosexual males. But they made the mistake of thinking their product, the gameplay, could carry hard enough to encase it with an enormous amount of intersectional nonsense.
Same assumption the Concorde developers made. They know the core audience is white heterosexual males. But they made the mistake of thinking their product, the gameplay, could carry hard enough to encase it with an enormous amount of intersectional nonsense.
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Bert Big Balls
Member
LMFAO Jesus Christ.Hey guys check out our hero shooter that we spent 6 years and $60 million developing. Preorder now and we’ll even let you play the beta!
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Following trends IS listening to people.
"The numbers say a lot of people enjoy this particular game type. We should try something here."
Or is the issue they're not listening to you specifically?
Jaybe
Gold Member
You mean the character select screen that has no white characters? They argue that games need representation and then fail to represent the largest market in gaming. And it’s by design. The lead character director at Firewalk seems on a mission to unburden himself from all the white guilt he’s been carrying.
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ViciousAgenda
Member
No it isn't. It's the obvious corporate "the others are selling skins, let's do it too" aspect of it.
It doesn't play particularly well either. It's slow with sludgy gunplay.
The maps are boring. Nothing in them reacts to the player.
The character designs are poor.
The rewards are boring.
No one cares about cutscenes in multiplayer games. This is one of their grand differentiators.
The game modes are derivative.
It costs 40 dollar/euros when there are games that are arguably superior available for free.
You spend as much time in character selection screens as you do playing the game.
And lastly, the pronoun thing. It's a problem for some people I'm sure. I don't give a shit about it. If the characters were at least cool looking and not "generic alien #2287 with a life preserver" they might have made an impact. There's absolutely no defending the ugly designs they've gone for here.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Stop pretending like the pronouns are the only thing people objected to.
- looks like “we have Guardians of the Galaxy at home”
- cringe Marvel style quippy dialog
- hideous “modern audiences” character design
- a genre that is pretty much saturated and people are getting tired of it
- the disappointment of seeing a first-party studio chasing a trend that got stale years ago and making design-by-committee slop instead of doing something bold and innovative
The pronouns are just the shit icing on the shit cake. The trailer looked stupid as hell and then when we finally got to the gameplay and saw the pronouns it was like “yeah…. of course they put the fucking pronouns on the character select screen, why am I not surprised?” It’s emblematic of the kind of modern entertainment turd this game is, it’s not the ONLY thing people objected to. Far from it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
A lot of people like myself don't want to try it because it looks like they tried to take a little Overwatch and sprinkle in some Destiny and made the TTK take 475 hits to kill someone
A lot of people don't want to try it because its a "Who asked for this game in 2024?"
A lot of people don't want to try it because they are asking $40 for a game that obviously needs to be F2P in this climate
Sonik
Member
When people say trends nowadays they don't mean trends that are actually representative of real people out there, they mean social media trends that have been shaped and manipulated by a bunch of blue-haired San Francisco catladies through mass censorship and outright manipulation of algorithms
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Looks like Bleeding EdgeHey guys check out our hero shooter that we spent 6 years and $60 million developing. Preorder now and we’ll even let you play the beta!
MayauMiao
Member
Hey guys check out our hero shooter that we spent 6 years and $60 million developing. Preorder now and we’ll even let you play the beta!
Are these leaked DLC characters for Concord?
BigBeauford
Member
Exactly; this game is sending an explicit message. Most reasonable people don't care about the existence of people of color in the game. It's the absence of a demographic that's telling.You mean the character select screen that has no white characters? They argue that games need representation and then fail to represent the largest market in gaming. And it’s by design. The lead character director at Firewalk seems on a mission to unburden himself from all the white guilt he’s been carrying.
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Jaybe
Gold Member
What’s wild is the high budget cinematic at the state of play turned a bunch of people off, being a knock-off guardians of the galaxy with even worse quips, and yet they want to do weekly cutscenes. That’s an expensive proposition and basically what the $40 asking price is going towards funding. They should have cut that from scope and made it free to play.
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ViciousAgenda
Member
If they really wanted people to care about this universe and characters they should have spent that money on a single player experience.
You can't sell skins for that though.
Antwix
Member
Should've put Mini me in the game. At least that would've been funny. There's never even representation for midgets. Not since Goldeneye. RIPThat barely works:
Rawbutt Jellybean
Member
People aren't trying it because it looks like a generic GAAS hero shooter in addition to asking $40 for what should be f2p.
The woke stuff just makes it easy to root against.
Interfectum
Member
There are plenty of games to play. If developers want to shove pronouns and a bunch of shit characters in a game to push their shit agenda I'm bowing out no matter how fun the game may be. Fuck them.
dreamstation
Member
Why do people think every multiplayer shooter should be free to play? And then we have cod which nobody bats an eyelid when people buy the same rehashed shit every year?
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midnightAI
Member
I actually think it's pretty good 
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
People don't remotely think EVERY MP shooter has to be free or COD would have died years ago
Most can tell when a MP should be free though, some can't
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The price isn't the issue. Charging when it's perceived you don't do anything different than the established F2P giants is the issue.
The up front cost can exist when you've built enough FOMO hype for a title. Concord hasn't done that.
ViciousAgenda
Member
COD has a single player element.
It also has a F2P, warzone.
It covers all ground and despite not liking it very much it does everything better than Concord.
dreamstation
Member
Yea I know CoD should be free but it ain't...
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Welcome to 2024
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
COD has a free version called Warzone and they can charge full priced game for MP because people want to play it
