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Fabieter
Member
Well I also like mid games from time to time. You shouldn't be ashamed of liking this specific one.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Thanks for the clarification. I dunno, kind of on the fence about trying it. Can I enjoy this without a fire team? Can I excel as an individual, or must I work with a team of other people to enjoy the game? I don't like to get chatty with a group of complete strangers, if I'm being honest.
ViciousAgenda
Member
I dont think you can lone wolf it tbh. It's very dependent on team work. You'll get steamrolled if your team aren't working together.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
That's what I figured. One of the (many) reasons I stopped playing Destiny 2.
Killjoy-NL
Member
It's free, so trying it out wouldn't hurt.
It's enjoyable solo, but it's good to keep in mind that it's clearly designed for teamplay. So if you try to stay with your team, the game can be rather fun.
I've noticed people are slowly getting used to this and there is far more teamplay than the first day.
Trying to Rambo your way through each match is definitely not the way to go, although some people might be able to make it work, I suppose.
Probably also depends on whether you play matches with respawn being available or not.
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Spyxos
Member
I've played a few rounds at a friend's house. The controls really weren't good. Map design is almost non-existent. I think everything has already been said about the character designs. Some skills were fun, others not at all and the tanks are almost unplayable. As slow as they are. TTK is also far too long.
I had some fun here and there. The graphics are quite pretty. But I don't see me buying ps+ for this game on top of the 40 dollar price tag. The only thing that the game has achieved. That makes me want to play Overwatch and Xdefiant again.
I had some fun here and there. The graphics are quite pretty. But I don't see me buying ps+ for this game on top of the 40 dollar price tag. The only thing that the game has achieved. That makes me want to play Overwatch and Xdefiant again.
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FalsettoVibe
Member
Man.....a single player campaign (in addition to the multiplayer stuff) and better character design would have done wonders for this game.
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AltogetherAndrews
Member
You know, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone actually make an argument for what is so bad about the character designs. It’s hardly original, but it looks about as I’d expect for cornball sci-fi. And from a gameplay perspective, the silhouettes work quite well.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
They're just lame. And ngl the colors they chose make em look gay af.
With different colors, half of em might not even look all that bad.
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AltogetherAndrews
Member
I can buy lame for sure, but worthy of being singled out like this? I’m not seeing it. 
Killjoy-NL
Member
I agree with you.I can buy lame for sure, but worthy of being singled out like this? I’m not seeing it.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Well, there's good and bad news:
ViciousAgenda
Member
Yep, you'd care about this narrative they are trying to sell.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The casual modes (respawn) are better for solo players. Game wasn't built around those modes however.
gothmog
Gold Member
It's also the first beta. I expect they will make changes before next weekend.
Varteras
Member
So do I but I wonder if they will recognize the issues and act on them. They have a week to make those changes before the next beta. Most games don't change based on feedback that quickly.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
As someone who played a ton of the beta, I didn't really run into any of that. I think it's also possible that any 5 stack of above average players playing as a team could run the table for an extended period of time.
I've also played a lot of Daw and am shocked at how frequently my rando teammates fight away from my heal pads.
Varteras
Member
I sure as shit wish the people I was facing earlier got away from those damn pads.
dreamstation
Member
Any idea what the update did that just downloaded on my PS5?
Luipadre
Member
You cant even adjust shit regarding aiming settings other than sensitivity. Its so barebones.
ViciousAgenda
Member
Nothing noticeable
Varteras
Member
Not true. You noticed there was an update. Checkmate
Sorry. I'm bored waiting for the sweet embrace of unconsciousness.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I Played some more. It's bad.
havoc00
Member
So even if this had top tier gameplay you would avoid because of the looks?
Fabieter
Member
Big if but yes I never saw a game with top tier gameplay this ugly.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Ugly as in character designs or ugly overall?
Fabieter
Member
Techwise it's fine. I despise the characters and the maps. I think the maps are really uninspired and lame.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yeah, I can see that. It's definitely not the pinnacle of map-design.
It's just like pretty much every other PvP shooter out there.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It took me until tonight to realize this...
Those passive buffs you collect during Rivals modes are really strong. Don't ignore them. It's worth it to go into your crew builder and assemble a group that synergize together. I had a few games tonight with Lark where I became Neo and saw the matrix because had so many buffs that worked with his kit. That was a pretty smart design choice as it incentivizes you to pick a number of mains rather than just one. It also makes the inter round character select screen more engaging as there's some strategy choices to make based off teammates character selections.
Those passive buffs you collect during Rivals modes are really strong. Don't ignore them. It's worth it to go into your crew builder and assemble a group that synergize together. I had a few games tonight with Lark where I became Neo and saw the matrix because had so many buffs that worked with his kit. That was a pretty smart design choice as it incentivizes you to pick a number of mains rather than just one. It also makes the inter round character select screen more engaging as there's some strategy choices to make based off teammates character selections.
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Fabieter
Member
Iam not that big on pvp shooters or mp games in general. I just need them for in-between seasons on my sp games. But I prefer the map design of stuff like battlefield, the finals or rainbow six where maps are more dynamic. But you are right that most pvp games donr offer great map design either. Might be one reason iam don't put more time into them.
Johnny Concrete
Member
So I just played a couple of rounds for the first time and my impressions:
- Very easy to get into the game. Everything from the in-game map to the mechanics are pretty clear from the get-go. It's all very readable.
- Character designs. I know it's popular to absolutely shit on them, but I think they are 'fine' (the cat lady with the uzi is rubbing me the wrong way, tho). They are very distinct, that's probably one of the reasons they look so wacky. I can instantly spot what character is in combat with me and react accordingly.
- TTK is high, so it is pretty crucial to play as a team. The downside to this is that whenever someone on your team leaves (which happens) you are fucked.
- Graphics are good, again everything is very readable and pleasing to the eye. UI is solid, a bit of overkill on some (post-match) animation stuff, though.
- The downtime between matches is a bit long.
- I like the health not automatically recharging but requiring a health-pickup that respawns. Some old-school Quake nostalgia.
I had a good time playing it, it's fun. Having said that I never played a Valorant or Overwatch, so I don't feel the hero-shooter fatigue. When it hits Free-to-play in about 6/8 months I will definitely play it once in a while.
- Very easy to get into the game. Everything from the in-game map to the mechanics are pretty clear from the get-go. It's all very readable.
- Character designs. I know it's popular to absolutely shit on them, but I think they are 'fine' (the cat lady with the uzi is rubbing me the wrong way, tho). They are very distinct, that's probably one of the reasons they look so wacky. I can instantly spot what character is in combat with me and react accordingly.
- TTK is high, so it is pretty crucial to play as a team. The downside to this is that whenever someone on your team leaves (which happens) you are fucked.
- Graphics are good, again everything is very readable and pleasing to the eye. UI is solid, a bit of overkill on some (post-match) animation stuff, though.
- The downtime between matches is a bit long.
- I like the health not automatically recharging but requiring a health-pickup that respawns. Some old-school Quake nostalgia.
I had a good time playing it, it's fun. Having said that I never played a Valorant or Overwatch, so I don't feel the hero-shooter fatigue. When it hits Free-to-play in about 6/8 months I will definitely play it once in a while.
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TrebleShot
Member
Played a fair bit over Friday and Saturday and have to say I've had fill.
I don't think it has enough depth to last the course it has to be free youncant charge for this.
I don't think it has enough depth to last the course it has to be free youncant charge for this.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Fabieter
Member
I think they just need to get this over with and put it on PS Plus from day one. Then it might stand a short chance. They just need to make the decision now.
Plus, then I win my bet withOppoi
No if they want to be serious about gaas they need to make it f2p or drop the mp requirement from plus. U
there’s a lot of competition in the F2P space, so going F2P may not necessarily be the panacea to all issues. And by charging money, they get to recoup on the investment.
I think they’re also pushing a template here, between Helldivers and this one. Charge with a lower barrier of entry ($40 instead of $70), but cementing that you don’t get to play premium Sony first party games for free.
I think they’re also pushing a template here, between Helldivers and this one. Charge with a lower barrier of entry ($40 instead of $70), but cementing that you don’t get to play premium Sony first party games for free.
dreamstation
Member
I reckon I'll pick it up on release ($49 AUD) and play for a bit then trade it in. Won't lose much money and can get my fill at launch for a few weeks or a month. Had fun during the beta, enough to know I'll get a few dozen hours out of it. Not sure why everyone is looking for a 10 year game. Play it for what it is then move on.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Jesus! Its effing dead Jim!
I didn't expect it to be this bad.
ViciousAgenda
Member
As a game it's fine but it needed to be exceptional to claw back any hope of being a hit and it's not. It's just, average.
Varteras
Member
Needs a big balancing pass. They need to advertise some sick cosmetics for people to unlock. If there is a PvE mode, which seems like there may very well be, I wouldn't drag my feet announcing it. I'd show it off ASAP. That alone will go such a long way in differentiating it from its rivals like Overwatch. It has great production values. The overall art design is really good but those character models are just boring. I'm gonna be honest, if they added at least two hot girls and some sick looking alien character, like some space dragon dude or something, that would greatly help tone down the negativity towards the characters.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
They need to release an armpit hair + septum ring pack for the waifus, I bet it’d sell like hotcakes.
Luipadre
Member
Jesus! Its effing dead Jim!
I didn't expect it to be this bad.
I did. It will be a huge fail for sony
Varteras
Member
balls of snow
Gold Member
Yeah sony can be flexible here. If by the end of the next beta nothing is moving the needle, this is for sure a launch psplus extra game.
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Games of Today
Member
I thought it was going to be a 70's/80's themed single player space FPS.
Can't believe it's an Overwatch rip off.
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