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Destiny |OT40| Killed by the Architects
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optimus8936
Banned
All of them except the hakke HC are good options, thesan is one of the best fusions and the AR's are solid options.
xplicitone
Member
Well, damn. I have a Jabberhäkke with zen moment, hot swap and quickdraw/speed reload.
Still space? I'm down if so.
I got another character with totems if you are on later. Just send me a psn message
JohnOfMars
Banned
Okay, so First Curse is pretty great, alright? I learned some new things today, but I want to put it all together in one post.
The Impact is such that it does 95 damage for a headshot, so while you won't be two-shotting often in Crucible, you very well could be in Iron Banner (or even Trials?) with a LL335 version.
What else does it have? Let me tell ya.
That's because The First Curse perk increases your stability, mobility and gives you even moar range.
It also has the innate Field Scout perk, which when coupled with Triple Tap, gives it a theoretical 22 round magazine. The combination of hard hitting impact, generous ammo perks and range makes it a great gun in PvE.
Remember vanilla Hand Cannon ranges? Yeah, First Curse remembers.
Oh, and you get the awesome gun flip too:
Real talk:
The Impact is such that it does 95 damage for a headshot, so while you won't be two-shotting often in Crucible, you very well could be in Iron Banner (or even Trials?) with a LL335 version.
What else does it have? Let me tell ya.
- It has Lightweight +2 Agility, who needs MIDA?
- Don't want agility, but prestidigitation? Yeah, it's got Quickdraw, like TLW, for the insta-ready.
- More range than Hawkmoon
- Twice the Aim Assist as Hawkmoon (90 out of a max of 100, nothing else comes close)
That's because The First Curse perk increases your stability, mobility and gives you even moar range.
It also has the innate Field Scout perk, which when coupled with Triple Tap, gives it a theoretical 22 round magazine. The combination of hard hitting impact, generous ammo perks and range makes it a great gun in PvE.
Remember vanilla Hand Cannon ranges? Yeah, First Curse remembers.
Oh, and you get the awesome gun flip too:
Real talk:
It's not gonna unseat with the Four Kings of PvP: TLW, Doctrine, MIDA, PDX-45/Hawksaw. It's not OP, God-tier or whatever, but it's extremely viable and very fun.It's essentially a Spare Change .25 right now where you're not dealing with a burst that could miss, but a single bullet that always does max damage. But it's slow firing and almost always takes 3 bullets. So it won't be the Meta ever.
But there are lots of fun guns outside the meta, hence this post.
But there are lots of fun guns outside the meta, hence this post.
JohnOfMars
Banned
Oh God. I just realized: I'm becoming Breezy.
Doesn't play the game.
Just makes posts about some dumb hand cannon.
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luvubreez
Doesn't play the game.
Just makes posts about some dumb hand cannon.
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luvubreez
Breezy plays the game. I saw him on the other day.
TheAquaticApe
Member
Kreygasm. That's a DAMN good roll. Keep it.
Haha, that was a random drop I got when bungie changed the special ammo in trials and I was playing the cryptarch lottery for a sniper. I thought "eh, may as well keep it for the sidearm ammo switch".
I give this post a thumbs up and a official Nintendo seal of approval.
TheTylerDurden
Member
lol NM I already did it and my memory sucks
thought I had a NF left for some reason. What I do have a left is a challenge card on my hunter.
The First Curse is pretty good, the RoF prevents it from being top tier but it has a niche (great team shooting gun).
A lot of snipers that use TLW to clean up bodyshots would be much better served using it, the fact it has Quickdraw plus the range and crazy AA (it finds heads like no other) mean no one is getting away when they're absolute.
A lot of snipers that use TLW to clean up bodyshots would be much better served using it, the fact it has Quickdraw plus the range and crazy AA (it finds heads like no other) mean no one is getting away when they're absolute.
jmvmadeira
Member
By the way , ranking up with gunsmith will give you a package weapon up 6 light levels (same as all the faction reps). Got a hand cannon from the gunsmith at 330 (crap perks) that I infused into my suros
BreezyLimbo
Banned
yesssssssss
THAT'S A LIE I WAS PLAYING ENTER THE GUNGEON, A GAME WITH ACTUAL SATISFYING LOOT
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Feels good to be playing again, gameplay is better than I remember.
Need to jump on some raids soon!
Need to jump on some raids soon!
Dave_6
Member
I'll keep that in mind when I eat there again, which will probably be tomorrow or Friday
Okay, so First Curse is pretty great, alright? I learned some new things today, but I want to put it all together in one post.
The Impact is such that it does 95 damage for a headshot, so while you won't be two-shotting often in Crucible, you very well could be in Iron Banner (or even Trials?) with a LL335 version.
What else does it have? Let me tell ya.And that's right off the bat. When the First Curse is proc'd, THE RANGE DOUBLES!!! (which remember is also aim assist)
- It has Lightweight +2 Agility, who needs MIDA?
- Don't want agility, but prestidigitation? Yeah, it's got Single Point Sling, like TLW, for the quick swap.
- More range than Hawkmoon
- Twice the Aim Assist as Hawkmoon (90 out of a max of 100, nothing else comes close)
That's because The First Curse perk increases your stability, mobility and gives you even moar range.
It also has the innate Field Scout perk, which when coupled with Triple Tap, gives it a theoretical 22 round magazine. The combination of hard hitting impact, generous ammo perks and range makes it a great gun in PvE.
Remember vanilla Hand Cannon ranges? Yeah, First Curse remembers.
Oh, and you get the awesome gun flip too:
Real talk:It's not gonna unseat with the Four Kings of PvP: TLW, Doctrine, MIDA, PDX-45/Hawksaw. It's not OP, God-tier or whatever, but it's extremely viable and very fun.It's essentially a Spare Change .25 right now where you're not dealing with a burst that could miss, but a single bullet that always does max damage. But it's slow firing and almost always takes 3 bullets. So it won't be the Meta ever.
But there are lots of fun guns outside the meta, hence this post.
I never really gave this gun a try but I'm going to take it out of the vault and level it up. I'm not the best PvPer but it's still relatively fun and this will give me something else to try other than the Mida or pulse rifles. I miss the days of Hawkmoon in PvP
DonutTurtle
Member
First curse is a good hand canon once you get used to its handling. It pairs nicely with a sidearm.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
First Curse is so slow. It would be better if it at least didn't have such a shit equip speed. The twirl takes to long for follow-up shots for me at times.
JohnOfMars
Banned
LT, I'm just trying to spread the gospel of Hand Cannons. You were one of our disciples at the beginning of the year? What happened?
Anyway....
Want some real talk? The Water Star is a really good Hand Cannon. Look at it compared to First Curse:
You don't get the exotic perks, which are helpful, but it's better in nearly every area. Plus it's the same archetype as Thorn, so it also takes the same # of shots to kill as First Curse, but it'll do it faster. Literally the fastest TTK for Hand Cannons, outside of TLW.
So, try The Water Star if you want to try a different hand cannon.
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X, First Curse's range is soo good there are ZERO phantom bullets.
Anyway....
Want some real talk? The Water Star is a really good Hand Cannon. Look at it compared to First Curse:
You don't get the exotic perks, which are helpful, but it's better in nearly every area. Plus it's the same archetype as Thorn, so it also takes the same # of shots to kill as First Curse, but it'll do it faster. Literally the fastest TTK for Hand Cannons, outside of TLW.
So, try The Water Star if you want to try a different hand cannon.
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X, First Curse's range is soo good there are ZERO phantom bullets.
xplicitone
Member
They all come with a hidden perk: Luck In The Chamber Phantom Bullets
Rollo Tomasi
Member
OT, but I had this the other day and I was NOT impressed.
That's the Wendys Jalapeno Fresco Chicken Sandwich. I like the regular Spicy Chicken there better.
Also, Chik-fil-a is the best.
mehrmantrout
Member
Lol, I don't know who Johns trying to kid but all HC's are pretty much garbage, apart from Thorn
They're good again in PvE. At least Hawkmoon and Luna are anyway.
Was super disappointed with my Tao Hua Yuan until I figured out that lower impact = higher RoF. I was still shooting at the same speed as my 1kYS, so gonna have to re-evaluate it in crucible tonight
Also, Soulstealers Claw is so good, definitely living up to the Doctrine with +range hype
Also, Soulstealers Claw is so good, definitely living up to the Doctrine with +range hype
Slammin_Hammon
Member
I had the same impression when I tried it too.
optimus8936
Banned
Eyasluna and finnalas are good if they have rifled or reinforced barrel, and ace of spades is really good too imo. Other than those and thorn, yeah they stink, I still hate that they killed TLW.
I've got one w/ Hammer Forged & Hidden Hand. No stability perks, but from the little I've shot it it wasn't too hard to control.
Yeah the hardest thing to get used to was the low AA combined with Shortgaze scope, I had to relearn how to snipe from the ground up. Still not as good as I used to be, but started hitting headshots more than bodyshots recently so theres that
EDIT: Wait you're referencing the Claw. Mine has Perfect Balance, Snapshot and Rodeo so aiming is a breeze
igordennis
Member
I'll keep that in mind when I eat there again, which will probably be tomorrow or Friday
I never really gave this gun a try but I'm going to take it out of the vault and level it up. I'm not the best PvPer but it's still relatively fun and this will give me something else to try other than the Mida or pulse rifles. I miss the days of Hawkmoon in PvP
Hawkmoon is viable these days though. Krafty is using it so it is definitely viable.
Kor of Memory
Member
Are you sure about this?
I feel like it was a big deal when Sidearms came out as they were the first hitscan weapons in the game. I wanna say that are the only hitscan weapons in the game. Everything else has an actual bullet that travels and dictates impact and damage.
That's literally the opposite of everything I've read or heard. Everything is hitscan except Rockets, Fusions, & year 1 sidearms.
It's the reason range is so much more important than stability on pulse rifles. The range dictates whether all of the bursts from a shot will hit.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm probably confusing old Halo hitscan rules with Destiny.
jmvmadeira
Member
Anyone for CoE? Or NF? Or some crucible? Need to do CoE on hunter and titan, NF on titan and warlock and need 2 crucible matches on a fireteam to finish my hunter shaxx bounty
I'll be on in a sec to join!
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
He logs on everyday to 'inspect' his Thorn.