mehrmantrout
Member
Will iron banner/trials even drop end game armour as it is you need a miracle to get anything above 310
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Destiny |OT40| Killed by the Architects
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Rollo Tomasi
Member
Didn't Bungie do almost the same thing for Y1 as well? We knew there were two expansions coming.
Why do they do this to the community. We have to wait another whole week before we get anymore news. Why cant they set up a back to back twitch streams relaying all this new content.
This just makes the community more toxic since we live in a world where we want our information NOW.
Because they are clueless or arrogant, either one is as bad as the other.
Kor of Memory
Member
Unknown at this time. Will likely talk about it either next stream, or the TWAB that follows.
utsavinheaven
Member
Will you have twitch stream for this match?
repost for new page :O
Edit: to maybe get a couple more people on board: I just solo'd the abyss and bridge to get the deathsinger checkpoint, so we only have to kill deathsinger and crota x3!
Definitely yes.
I'm not upset. I'm bored with the game. I'm a PvE player and the PoE slight refresh is not doing it for me. All the content on your list is very stale. And I think all of the PoE difficulty levels need MM. They look really easy.
So now I play other games.
Kor of Memory
Member
Tlaloc if you're a warlock.
I'm trying that now, I finally hit the wall with Destiny. (AKA, my socks are full)
xplicitone
Member
I'm OK with this update. Maybe they're focusing their efforts on updating their tools and/or Destiny 2. I just really hope there are new PvP maps and custom games. Is that too much to ask?
End game division content? Running the same missions over and over to try to get Phoenix Creds?
I mean there are no mechanics in any of those missions do far. Once you have a piece of HE gear you're semi satisfied with for each slot, there's nothing left.
End game division content? Running the same missions over and over to try to get Phoenix Creds?
I mean there are no mechanics in any of those missions do far. Once you have a piece of HE gear you're semi satisfied with for each slot, there's nothing left.
I'm just hitting up the missions once a day now. I only have two HE armor pieces so I have a way to go. I'm not going in all autsy in this game like I did with Destiny.
Unless IB comes back next week I'm taking a hiatus from the game. Just not having as much fun as I used to and it's mostly due to grinding 3 new alts on a new console.
Also I have nothing left to chase, Trials done, all challenges done, most exotics acquired. I don't feel like doing the gunsmith and remaining quest exotics at this time.
Thanks! Great to hear, I always loved solo'ing Nightfalls back in Year 1 before Bungie buffed Nightfall enemy HP for solo play. After that I had to wait until advantageous elemental burns to solo otherwise it was too ridiculous.
Putting ~2000 hours into a game will do that to you. I'd chalk that up as a win for your wallet and for the game keeping you occupied for that long.
rasengan1337
Member
please take the comments in the OT (yes, this is the 40th OT) ^_^ with a grain of salt...
see what I did there? lol
the complaints that you see here are the complaints of those who have nothing else left to do in the game for the most part, and just play for min/max'ing, and know so much about the game, that they probably know more than the playtesters/live team do and are frustrated with the current state of various aspects of the game.
it's definitely worth playing, especially considering you haven't experienced the Dark Below, or House of Wolves content.
mehrmantrout
Member
My king of salt crown is under serious threat. I'm going to have to up my game to fend of all these challengers to my throne
Kor of Memory
Member
I just really really want a rocket launcher that is all about shit damage, but crazy push.
Like, hitting a target head on wouldn't kill it, but instead cause it to launch backwards either off the map, or into a wall for a collision death.
Solar Wind the rocket launcher
Rewards for doing the Sigil high score and cumulative score are NOT guaranteed 335 light.
https://twitter.com/negabyte35/status/712757479856148480
Whoever decided that the reward on stream demonstration should be 335 is an idiot. Totally sets the wrong expectation. Seriously the whole PR plan for this April update is incredibly obtuse.
https://twitter.com/negabyte35/status/712757479856148480
Whoever decided that the reward on stream demonstration should be 335 is an idiot. Totally sets the wrong expectation. Seriously the whole PR plan for this April update is incredibly obtuse.
ugh, not this again.
Yeah, if you want to play some chill crucible during the week, I'm normally on most evenings after kids go to bed and I spend some time with the wife. Lately, I've been the only one on my friends list playing Destiny. Most of the time I'm just playing a few matches in the daily crucible playlist as that seems to have the highest population for quick matchmaking.
I don't know of my availability this weekend, as I'm most likely going to be out of town for Easter weekend. We need to grab DMH and give it another go for Mercury, I think we could make it (we should have made it last week, we should have beat those two teams we lost to).
In terms of the update, do we know for sure if they are still going to be ranged drops? I checked the info page on bungie.net and it says "Kingsfall Normal drops increased to light level 320. Kingsfall Hard drops increased to light level 330. Court of Oryx Artifact Drops increased to light level 335."
Doesn't say drops "up to."
xplicitone
Member
There's always practicing and improving in PvP, at least. That's all I've been doing in Destiny for at least 2 months now. With Division, there isn't dedicated PvP so it's obvious it wouldn't have that hold. We always had PvP to hold us over content drought. The problem is with Destiny, imo, 6s isn't fun anymore. 3s can be meh too with bad connections/lag.
TheAquaticApe
Member
Personally, the biggest issue I have with the update is them upping the light values in KF. I kind of don't want to play KF anymore lol
Especially now that HM will drop 330 stuff...
Especially now that HM will drop 330 stuff...
JohnOfMars
Banned
This is the worst goddamned part of Year 2. Ulgh. RNG on RNG on RNG. Non guaranteed rewards.
Remember fun for fun's sake, Bungie?
Bungie games didn't use to have grind, but my God in heaven, they seem terrified of a game without it.
The problem with Destiny is Bungie.
Yeah not interested in that at all lol. So tiring. Other games. Other things to do for fun.
xplicitone
Member
It seems extremely lazy to me. That shows they could have easily upped the min values of normal and hard but no, they left it 300 and 310.
I dont have any desire to replay those raids unless the weapons were reworked or new weapons can drop. Something different other than, "Here's the same shit weapons but with higher light!"
I'll also be upset if we get no new PvP maps. Without that, I don't know if I can be really care about things like subclass changes and new weapons/gear. All year 2 maps are made for Rift and shouldn't be for other modes. Trials needs some new maps dangit
Kor of Memory
Member
The dude sitting with Deej said "Up to 335" light several times during the stream. I didn't realize this was considered unknown.
Honestly, I was more concerned with what the min LL can be for these items.
Destiny is like my old Comcast internet that was called "up to" 100 Mbps, yeah I never got that.
I didn't listen to the stream, and I didn't see any "up to" remark in your summary, or read it in any articles. Funny that they had forced 335 LL drops on stream.
I didn't listen to the stream, and I didn't see any "up to" remark in your summary, or read it in any articles. Funny that they had forced 335 LL drops on stream.
I'm currently at post-The Dark Below HM levels of engagement with this game, i.e., zero.
PoE was my least favorite part of any of the expansions. Loathed it. And chasing arbitrary LL's when I don't feel like a badass once I'm a higher level than enemies isn't remotely satisfying.
So, yeah. At this point my only compulsion to play this game is to get the new loot and items just in case I might regret not picking them up. There's nothing fun about grinding for stuff that might be worth picking up. At that point it's a chore and I move on to more enjoyable games.
PoE was my least favorite part of any of the expansions. Loathed it. And chasing arbitrary LL's when I don't feel like a badass once I'm a higher level than enemies isn't remotely satisfying.
So, yeah. At this point my only compulsion to play this game is to get the new loot and items just in case I might regret not picking them up. There's nothing fun about grinding for stuff that might be worth picking up. At that point it's a chore and I move on to more enjoyable games.
igordennis
Member
Ugh.
The fact that they didnt drop this RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG bullshit makes me think that they are not listening to the community AT ALL.
They should change their name from Bungie to Bubble.
They don't have the resources to make any drastic changes. This update is barely getting put together. All efforts are on the future lol.
That was very easy to miss, and the demonstration showing:
A: All 3 participants at maxed 335 overall light
B. The reward being a 335 light weapon
gave the impression to me that it was guaranteed. It's conflicting messaging. Bad communication.
TheAquaticApe
Member
I'll probably just to the CM 3X each week and the new PoE stuff. There's no way I can convince my old raid buddies to run KF full 3X again.
They should have showed one guy getting a 335 drop and his friend getting a 310 drop, and asked both players how they felt about it.
There's going to be so many 320/321 drops on that first day. So much salt.
Praying that at least the sniper rifle (being cool looking, good archetype, good perks) is a sign that the loot will at least be good.
JohnOfMars
Banned
I'm actually excited about the new quest and strike and the Prison of Elder stuff.
Looks great!
What sucks is that I can't play just how much I want to for fun. No. If I want to continue to stay at light cap, then I have to GRIND these things to get to 330/335/whatever. And since King's Fall will give 330 and Court of Oryx will give 335 artifacts, there's no way that drop rates will be enjoyable.
I played fucktons of Halo and never complained about "content" or "rewards" because it was just fun. I didn't need weekly lockouts or gear scores or RNG.
Does Bungie consider the reward system at all rewarding? I guess we'll get more details next week in the "What You'll Earn (and Pay for)" twitch stream.
If Bungie is fine with us playing other games, then why do they make it impossible to hit the goals we want before we leave?
What I was really hoping was that this update was going to be a slight course correction to the Light System before a total reboot this fall. But no. This is incredibly demoralizing.
Looks great!
What sucks is that I can't play just how much I want to for fun. No. If I want to continue to stay at light cap, then I have to GRIND these things to get to 330/335/whatever. And since King's Fall will give 330 and Court of Oryx will give 335 artifacts, there's no way that drop rates will be enjoyable.
I played fucktons of Halo and never complained about "content" or "rewards" because it was just fun. I didn't need weekly lockouts or gear scores or RNG.
Does Bungie consider the reward system at all rewarding? I guess we'll get more details next week in the "What You'll Earn (and Pay for)" twitch stream.
If Bungie is fine with us playing other games, then why do they make it impossible to hit the goals we want before we leave?
What I was really hoping was that this update was going to be a slight course correction to the Light System before a total reboot this fall. But no. This is incredibly demoralizing.
xplicitone
Member
I disagree.
I mean I bet this game has millions of lines of code, but I bet they didn't make it hard coded everywhere or really hard to modify (that'd be bad programming practice and I highly doubt this game has those).
Like there's a range function which is probably just a random number.
C++ it's:
// Normal KF, Random value between 300 and 310.
LightRNGValue = rand() % 11 + 300;
Just change that to LightRNGValue =310 if you want guaranteed. Just like challenge mode gives. Or up the range so it only gives 305-310 instead of 300-310.
A 2nd semester programming student can make these changes so that part takes 0 work.
To use their tools and make a production ready patch however, seems to take the longest time.
Kor of Memory
Member
Slow down, we don't know how many RNG layers there are right now.
The weapons from CoE could have set perks, or at least 1 set perk like how Cocoon is on all the Raid gear.
rasengan1337
Member
when it rains...
I concur, they should have had a variety of LL drops, because you know that there will be some people expecting 335 drops across the board because, well, people.
Kor of Memory
Member
I still think it's worth waiting before getting to emotional about some of this.
Bungie has to know that the current Light Level and/or Infusion system is considered garbage by the entire playerbase.
I'll give them a chance to address it next week before I get discouraged.
xplicitone
Member
Thank God it's Friday, tomorrow.
Rift really sucks going in solo. Playing with a full team has its moments.
optimus8936
Banned
I really hope it's cauldron or exodus blue for trials, I've never played trials on cauldron and I want to experience that map
Kor of Memory
Member
Rift sucks unless you're going in with a full team.
I'm of the opinion that Rift needs to be thrown into an "Objective" playlist where players don't know exactly what mode they're getting into.
Games just have a chance of being Control, Rift, or Zones.
Honestly, I think Iron Banner needs to do this, too. Except you can throw Clash in there as well.
The perfect Iron Banner would be
23% chance to play Clash
23% chance to play Control
23% chance to play Zones
23% chance to play Rift
8% chance to play Mayhem