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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese
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toastyToast
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Does this game have any good maps?
At least for control. None of them seem specifically designed for an objective mode. Lopsidedness pretty much everywhere.
The dumbest example I can think of is point B on Exodus Blue. One team gets a clear line of sight at that area while the other gets a stack of boxes obstructing their view.
Why?
Fucking why?
At least for control. None of them seem specifically designed for an objective mode. Lopsidedness pretty much everywhere.
The dumbest example I can think of is point B on Exodus Blue. One team gets a clear line of sight at that area while the other gets a stack of boxes obstructing their view.
Why?
Fucking why?
Raid pros, assuming you don't have Vision of Confluence or Fatebringer at your disposal, what would your weapon load out for the Raid look like? I wanna know what you pros are using for each segment. Same load out for the entire thing? Or do you change between segments?
Share the knowledge!
Share the knowledge!
Yes
No.
I can't help it, I've started looking at control as training wheels mode now. it's great for learning the maps. then you graduate to the better modes. in my humble opinion of course.
blind watch, exodus blue, firebase delphi and twilight gap are just awful on control, but I really enjoy at least a couple of them in rumble, and delphi in clash (although four times in a row was a bit excessive...)
you can hit it again while falling to reactivate. awesome ways to use momentum
Marvel
could never
lol, I thought everyone knew this. Glad you do now though!
Twilight Gap
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yup i agree. shores is the only good control map if you ignore the spawn issues.
Cool, abandoning then so I can free up a bounty slot.
I think the only gun that makes sense with the games vertical movement is the hand cannon since it is somewhat viable shooting from the hip. I simply don't understand the decision to make this an ADS game with vertical gameplay. The two design philosophies clash with each other
When not using VoC, I use Suros for primary with Athean's Epilogue as backup. Ice Breaker and Praedyth's Revenge for special. Gjallahorn and Corrective Measure for heavy.
Conflux Phase:
Suros
Praedyth
CM
Oracles phase:
Athean
Praedyth
Gjallahorn
Templar phase
Athean
Ice Breaker
CM
Gatekeepers phase
Athean
Praedyth
Gjallahorn
Athean phase
Athean
Ice Breakers
CM
lol titanfall am cry
Plenty of guns in TF can be used without ADS....
Titanfall pilot gameplay is even worse
Thought backstab was OHK. Shoulder charge is awesome but is tricky because of the duration to activate and then the short duration to use it.
This is gold. I have Atheon's Epilogue, Ice Breaker and Suros. I'd use Hezen Vengeance/Truth as a Gjallarhorn substitute and a Void Zombie Apocalypse in CM's place. This is similar to what I was using, and it's nice to have a confirmation that my head was in the right place.
Atheon's Epilogue
Ice Breaker
Some Rocket Launcher
Atheon's Epilogue is the type I want to switch out, but never do because it's so useful against Minotaurs/Praetorians which I face often, and it roflstomps oracles when maxed of course.
It was never a thing that bothered me until I went Warlock, still hate Glide, but it's more tolerable now.
Twilight Gap
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probably an unpopular opinion, but i'm starting to dislike the way this game handles.
-sparrow can get stuck on the most ridiculous piece of geometry and you're sitting there slowly flipping, debating whether you can keep going or will fall off.
-interceptor's a dull, slow and clunky piece of junk.
-hidden cooldowns on sprinting and sliding.
-randomly sprinting or being pulled out of ADS mid-fight.
-can't shoot anything for two seconds after landing from a high jump because of "fall stun".
-not being able to hit the broad side of the barn after your first jump due to accuracy pentalties. makes the combat linear and flat. in multiplayer, it lowers the skill gap during engagements and closes up the maps.
-enemies walking in front of your crosshair and pulling it with them because of the auto aim. when i want to shoot an explosive crate behind a group of enemies, the game wants me to shoot at the enemies instead.
i'm sure there are more. all of these have been frustrating me exponentially over the last few weeks.
It's the main reason why a skilled shotgun user is so hard to stop. There is no need to go ADS so you have full mobility. There was this guy on the opposing team the other day who was just unstoppable because he jumped around all over the place just destroying people with the shotty. He makes up so much ground while you are immobile due to ADS. Also fuck the auto rifle, it's still too OP at range
My AE is fully maxed out and it rips Praetorian shields like butter. It's also great on Oracles but it's kind of hard to use against Goblins/Hobgoblins/Fanatics during Conflux phases I think.
Smart Pistol, CAR with counterweight, shotgun?
might have been a patch or two more since I last played, full disclosure.
if that!
Before tonight IMO.
We were just talking bout this the other day how the maps are awful for Control. I only enjoy that mode on my defender titan really.
Johan Liebert
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I hate this....ugh. Almost kill an enemy in Crucible only to have his teammate get in my sights and have the auto aim "lock" on the other guy.
Twilight Gap
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it's the reason i dislike fighting the cabal. i'll shoot one of them and another will jetpack and pull my sights up with him.
The R97, any gun at close range. I don't see the problem.
toastyToast
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I tend to prefer objective based modes in shooters. Probably because I play solo most of the time and everyone kind of knows what they're doing. The times where I'm on a map the clearly favours one team while I'm on the other trying to flip spawns and being no back up is the most painful shit I've had to deal with in a shooter. Then when I finally do some dumbaas flips it back.
I feel like the other modes are pretty much decided by who gets the heavy ammo spawn.
So if you find an Exotic during a mission or a strike or whatever (as in "PlayerX has found X Weapon" in yellow writing in the bottom left corner of the screen) you have to finish that mission in order to be awarded with that gear?
Because yesterday I "found" an exotic hand cannon during a strike I did with a friend, but even after 10+ tries and 2h later we couldn't manage to beat the final boss, leading to me not receiving the weapon I found.
Because yesterday I "found" an exotic hand cannon during a strike I did with a friend, but even after 10+ tries and 2h later we couldn't manage to beat the final boss, leading to me not receiving the weapon I found.
astroturfing
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decided to make a new char, beat the first mission and right away go try some pvp as level 2... get pitted against level 29s and 30s. i don't even have double jump or a heavy weapon or ANYTHING yet! besides the first assault rifle and sniper rifle, lol. nice job with the matchmaking Bungie.
So it's going to be "being flawless is really stressful"
Everyone who wants to understand the new ot title needs to go attempt flawless raider lol. I'm really interested to see if we have any other GAF teams capable of pulling it off.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Jesus!
Dem' Hardonic Essence, I'm set till Destiny 3
Wish I could do a 2:1 or hell 3:1 to swap for the other classes
Dem' Hardonic Essence, I'm set till Destiny 3
Wish I could do a 2:1 or hell 3:1 to swap for the other classes
Marvel
could never
Double the ghosts didn't make phase go twice as fast
I do love it when that happens though.
Should try and get 3.
man "any gun at close range" i feel like applies just about equally to titanfall and destiny. using the R101 without ADS at standard engagement range is madness and I did pretty awful with the R97 the few times I tried it so I defer to you on that. generally speaking ADS is massively important in titanfall, I think this is the first time I've ever seen anyone argue otherwise!
funny, I always prefer to have a premade group even more for objective modes. the feeling of being put on a team you can't control that ignores or misunderstands the right approach to the objectives is so much more painful than a mode where everyone gets that they just need to kill people. but obviously a team of people you can talk to is best 100% of the time. most fun for me solo is rumble by a mile.
i'm sure it's not that unpopular, i've seen a lot of similar complaints. I don't have much of a problem the controls the, except the option to tone down the auto-aim is really really necessary, and I don't touch the interceptor with a ten foot pole. every game with vehicles in which you can get out of the vehicle has had some geometry-related wonkiness, and for the most part I think the sparrow controls are sublime. so much fun. I've never randomly sprinted mid-fight personally, and the sprint stamina thing also stopped bothering me once I got the hang of it. taken as a whole honestly destiny has some of my favorite fps controls on a console and I definitely wouldn't have been enjoying the game as much otherwise.
hand cannon accuracy in the air was just buffed and I kinda like the "fall stun" animation :-x
Yeh it's essential to the game no doubt, but it's a lie to say the guns are useless without. Played over 150 hours of the game and killed plenty of players with and without ADS on multiple guns. Git Gud?
Edit: though if you're not playing on PC I can see how it'd be hard to aim properly.
figadapaura
Member
Conflux phase:
Suros
Praedyth
Hezen Vengeance
Oracles:
Epilogue
Ice Breaker
Hezen Vengeance
Templar:
Suros
Praedyth
Hezen Vengeance
Gatekeepers:
Suros
LIGHT/Beware
Hezen Vengeance
Atheon:
Epilogue
Ice Breaker
Hezen Vengeance
My last loadout will probably change when the random teleports get implemented. I also have a VoC now so some of those are already different.
If only RNGesus would give me the gauntlets and boots. I'm likely to have the platinum before that happens. You know your drop rates are fucked up when people can get the plat before hitting level 30.
lol I think this is the part where you go back and quote me saying the guns are useless without it!
my original reply (which was to jb...) could be fleshed out as: in titanfall the competitive gameplay is more vertical in nature and also emphasizes ads more than destiny. his reply "titanfall pilot gameplay is even worse" lines up with his position on the issue, and while I don't like ads in general I don't think it's a bad thing in that game.
my original reply (which was to jb...) could be fleshed out as: in titanfall the competitive gameplay is more vertical in nature and also emphasizes ads more than destiny. his reply "titanfall pilot gameplay is even worse" lines up with his position on the issue, and while I don't like ads in general I don't think it's a bad thing in that game.
Twilight Gap
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i used to believe it was one of the best shooters mechanically and i would have stopped playing ages ago if i didn't like how it handled. but these issues have been taking me out of it for a while and they don't feel like something i can just get used to. it's been a struggle as much with RNG and lag as it has with inconsistent controls and it's gotten to the point where i enjoy shooting less and less.
i hope it's not my controller.
i just use atheon's epilogue, icebreaker and my void rocket launcher with homing throughout. before that, it was suros, a void fusion rifle and a void machine gun. ideally, i'd pair atheon's epilogue or fate bringer with praedyth's revenge and gjallarhorn (basically the raid's bane), but i don't have the latter yet.
Twilight Gap
Member
no way this is hitting OT9 today if i'm double posting.
Welp nami and fig listed a shit ton of weapons. So I guess I'll tell you my load out. I didn't realize they swapped that much haha. I use new monarchy auto rifle, ice breaker, raid rocket launcher. I swap out new monarchy auto for raid auto rifle during oracle phase though. I usually have relic for final boss. So I don't have to swap back to raid auto rifle for those oracles.
it's like you think at some point I said, "you can't ever get a kill in titanfall without using ADS." you said "plenty of guns can be used without it," I named the 3 I could think of, you added 1 more as well as "any gun at close range." the guns I mentioned can be used reasonably at their intended engagement range without any ADS. others can be used comfortably without ADS at close range. if I were to tell a new player, "plenty of guns in this game can be used without ADS, go for it!" do you really think I would not be misleading them in any way about the mechanics in titanfall?
i have no doubt that you're better at it than me, for the record. sorry for the derail.
maybe you're just getting sick of it altogether and looking for something to pin it on?
I know you've played a whole lotLol. Hard to believe I know, but I think that one post every 3 minutes would get us there by ~11pm tonight.
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