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[Critical Hit]

The guys behind Oblivion remaster are a bunch of clowns that created a broken mess, didn't expect this to be any different.

Good artists/designers tho.

 

[Gripsx]

wow they couldnt even make a proper Balanced mode for PS5 pro?

 

[FUBARx89]

Publishers need to stop using Virtuos. They're shit for getting a game to run decently.

Batman Arkham collection, Oblivion, CP2077 (Since they've started updating it, it's getting buggier again), MGS 3 Delta all stick out as games they've got their hands on, and fucked up performance.

They're a poundland Bluepoint.

 

[Kerotan]

Im not paying 100 EUR for this.

I paid 68 for the deluxe.

 

[kevboard]

Unreal Engine 5

game has shit framerate

game runs below last gen level resolutions

GI has constant boiling in indirectly lit areas because it uses Lumen, aka. the worst cancer known to game graphics



WHAT AN UNEXPECTED SURPRISE!

 

[adamsapple]

Kacho

I'm beginning to have some doubts about the DS2 sales comparison, lol.

Though the poor launch state didn't stop Oblivion remaster from selling tons. Let's see.

 

[Darsxx82]

Mafia's PC version is so bad, DF didn't even cover it lol.

But surprisingly tho, the SX version runs even better than the PS5 Pro version in the comparison video DF did.

This is Virtuos, they just did the Oblivion remaster earlier this year which had better average performance on Xbox so I'm hoping this is the same case here.

In the same video, DF says they had the chance to play a demo of the XSX version at Gamescon, and while they don't have any records, the experience is very similar to what was described on the PS5 reviewed here. The advantage of the XSeries is that the minimum margin where VRR is effective is better (40fps) than on the PS5 (48fps), and that should give a better experience. But remembering the MGS collection, it's also cause for concern.

It's a shame such a poor and poor finish. And on top of that, the 30fps mode is a stuttering mess.

I had decided to buy it at launch (although more for nostalgia's sake), and now I'm struggling to reason with myself when there are other game releases that I'm really looking forward to.

 

[Reaseru]

Huge Metal Gear fan, but many assets and geometry from this game are from the PS2 original, with better textures, with the lighting doing the rest.

Not very worthy the 70/80 euros for me. Many later down the road...

 

[Kacho]

Kacho

I'm beginning to have some doubts about the DS2 sales comparison, lol.

Though the poor launch state didn't stop Oblivion remaster from selling tons. Let's see.

 

[Bojji]

Unreal Engine 5

game has shit framerate

game runs below last gen level resolutions

GI has constant boiling in indirectly lit areas because it uses Lumen, aka. the worst cancer known to game graphics



WHAT AN UNEXPECTED SURPRISE!

Hardware lumen would fix most of boiling issues (+RR). PC version has it?

 

[blastprocessor]

5090 should sort out it amirite? Gotta love UE5.

 

[Venom Snake]

If something like Ark: Survival Ascended runs better on pro at 2x the resolution.. Is it really just UE5 fault?

 

[PlayStaytion]

See, you can't bring this stuff to E3.

 

[kevboard]

Hardware lumen would fix most of boiling issues (+RR). PC version has it?

hardware lumen doesn't always fix the boiling. in fact in some instances I have seen it make it worse.

in Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, hardware lumen in one of the worst scenes in the game, had more boiling and more disocclusion artifacts than software lumen.
but maybe modifying it through .ini tweaks can fix it somewhat. that did help a bit in Silent Hill 2, where the default hardware lumen setting the game offered also looked like diarrhea.

Lumen simply is the worst thing to ever happen to video game graphics. it's so insanely low quality...

 

[PlayStaytion]

If Ark: Survival Ascended runs better on pro at 2x the resolution.. Is it really just UE5's fault?

UE5 just can't tell how many PS4s inside the PS5 monolithic chip.

 

[vkbest]

What would fix this shit: 30fps and 40fps modes on Pro + option to use regular PS5 performance mode on it (should be close to locked 60).

Dumbfuck devs...

This is an example of why we get shitty games.

 

[Nvzman]

Still watching, but anyone else likes the yellow filter of the original?

The game takes place in 1964 and I recall at the time of the release, I liked the color palette because it reminded me of an old film with worn out colors.

From what I've seen of the game, I think what they did was make the effect much more subtle, which I prefer. There still is a yellow-ish color grading to everything, its just not straight piss filter like the original. I'm completely fine with it visually.

Its a gorgeous looking game with very dense foliage and detailed character models, I'm not surprised the console versions are struggling a little considering its UE5 too.

 

[omegasc]

Konami doing what "recent" Konami does. It has a special place in my heart since the MSX but I currently avoid almost everything they release.

 

[Reave]

The fact that it's basically worse on PS5 Pro is insane.

 

[bighugeguns]

This game is a good looking bastard, can't deny that.

 

[R6Rider]

Fuck it. I'm not going to buy at launch. Will wait for HOPEFULLY a patch.

 

[Fake]

This fell like a fanmade game.


And base PS5 beating PS5pro wasn't on my card deck.

Embarrassing. Wasn't the same devs behind Oblivion Remake? So, keep your hopes in check for a patch.

 

[DAHGAMING]

Any tldr res and fps?

Shit and shit.

 

[R3TRO]

Of course it's a shitshow after I canceled my Steam preorder and preordered it for the pro…I don't know what I expected

Just cancelled it again and rebought it on Steam…

 

[Rush2112]

Sadly, this won't affect the sales.

 

[Ellis]

Sad to see, but also expected given the engine and the studio behind it. ( No offence to them. I just don't think they're great from a technical, and optimisation perspective ).

Still Day One, of course.

Hopefully my peasant 12GB 3060 / 5700X can atleast hold a good 60fps at 1080p with DLAA.

I had a lot of stutter with Oblivion on PC. I ended up grabbing on PS5, which was much better. Possibly due to having a faster I/O than my AM4 build (?).

I'm in for PC with MGS3 though

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Thank god I did not preorder this shit. Performance for this price is awful.

 

[willothedog]

why don't they use PSSR on the pro so it will run better?

 

[ValiantInstance]

Kacho

I'm beginning to have some doubts about the DS2 sales comparison, lol.

Though the poor launch state didn't stop Oblivion remaster from selling tons. Let's see.

This place is an extreme minority. Normies will see the 86 and buy it. All my friends who played the Oblivion Remaster didn't mention performance once, and one of them was on the Series S.

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

sooooo, the janky movement and game mechanics of 2004, coupled with 756p resolutions to work from and sub 60fps on pro? sounds like this one puts the ASS in PASS amiright bros?! BRO!

 

[DanielG165]

Still watching, but anyone else likes the yellow filter of the original?

The game takes place in 1964 and I recall at the time of the release, I liked the color palette because it reminded me of an old film with worn out colors.

The remake looks sterile by comparison; it has a lack of charm/flair to it.

 

[FUBARx89]

why don't they use PSSR on the pro so it will run better?

They do use PSSR. But PSSR isn't the magic bullet that Sony & Mark Cerny made it out to be.

Plus, shit devs & UE5 don't really mix well together.

 

[DanielG165]

The first step in fixing performance is to throw ue5 in the garbage bin where it belongs, and it's a little too late for this. Without the first step all others don't make any sense.

Plenty of UE5 games run rather well.

 

[Fake]

why don't they use PSSR on the pro so it will run better?

They use PSSR.

 

[Burning Blade]

Should have licensed Decima engine.

 

[MadchesterManc]

I usually dislike it, but I think it fits in rare cases like this one.

Also Lunatic_Gamer the Pro actually has a lower resolution than the base PS5 Quality Mode.

PSSR does help though.

Considering the stick PSSR gets, that's quite the improvement considering the low resolutions it has to work with here

 

[Flabagast]

Another disappointing Pro release.

Why did I buy this piece of shit

 

[Shifty1897]

PS5 Pro mode running worse is fucking heinous. What a disaster.

Under no circumstances will I buy until that is fixed.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

• Surprisingly, the PS5 Pro often runs at a lower frame rate than the base PS5 in performance-intensive areas, with the base PS5 showing up to a +7 FPS advantage in some jungle segments.

• It utilizes Sony's PSSR upscaler, which offers advantages in cleaning up flickering artifacts and dealing with occlusion artifacts.

• However, PSSR can result in lower overall detail resolution compared to base PS5 and accentuates global illumination flickering, leading to more shimmer in interiors and shaded outdoor areas.

• PS5 Pro users are stripped of any graphics mode toggle, leaving no alternative options.

• While outdoor jungle areas show a clear downgrade, some interior sections like the lab complex run better on PS5 Pro.

So yea ... the PS5 pro continues to be a disaster.

No wonder Sony started talking about the PSSR update in 2026 so soon.

 

[Bojji]

This is an example of why we get shitty games.

What example?

Without options Pro owners have shitty experience all around. Not giving players options because "they know better" is the worst thing ever (if they can't lock the framerate at least).

 

[adamsapple]

Considering the stick PSSR gets, that's quite the improvement considering the low resolutions it has to work with here

It's a mixed bag, those things which are behind objects get resolved quicker.

But for the overall picture, Pro is inexplicably blurrier than even the base PS5 at mid and distance range for geometry and foliage.

 

[saintjules]

Still watching, but anyone else likes the yellow filter of the original?

The game takes place in 1964 and I recall at the time of the release, I liked the color palette because it reminded me of an old film with worn out colors.

As an aside, this is the perfect example you should show someone what a 'remaster' is vs. what a remake looks like.

 

[Fbh]

Ps3 era resolution with crappy performance? Another UE5 banger to add to the ignore list.

 

[viveks86]

Welp, guess I'm changing my vote on games I'm excited for next month

 

[GrayChild]

PS5 Pro bros, Alex is being mean to us again:

 

[kevboard]

Thank god I did not preorder this shit. Performance for this price is awful.

 

[Madserb2023]

Don't you m

PS5 becoming a nice 1080p machine...

Don't you mean 720p.

 

[CrimsonTide]

UE5 is easily the biggest disaster in modern gaming and it's not even close

I will still get it for PS5, base, which is superior here, because it will recapture that PS2 performance and frame drops.

They really went after that old feel and they nailed it

 

[R6Rider]

LMAO at the "Pro is a failure" posts.

No, the devs are a failure.

 

[Bojji]

PS5 Pro bros, Alex is being mean to us again:

He is right.