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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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They spoke about it at the end. Multi Doctor things make the younger Doctors forget everything, so the War Doctor remembers heading off into the desert with the Moment, then next thing he remembers he's Ecclestone, and the Time Lords and Daleks are all destroyed. He puts 2 and 2 together, gets 5, and carries on exactly as he did.

Or maybe he always did, maybe Gallifrey was always destroyed, and the Doctor just never knew until now.

Also I didn't quite get the implications of Tom Baker, was the point that that was a far far distant regeneration of the Doctor who decided to revisit the Baker face?

It actually provides another reason (besides the obvious) for why 9 was exceptionally manic most of the time; imagine not totally remembering your own regeneration and finding out you just roasted all your people! It's like the worst hangover ever.

I liked the special a whole, whole lot.

And yes, Baker's appearance means that eventually the doctor will decide to "revisit a few of the old favorites" in future regenerations. I quite liked that the Baker cameo wasn't a throwaway "let's just use the actor" thing. It was actually The Doctor!
 

PBalfredo

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That was real good. The interactions between the doctors was easily the best part.

The only problem I had was that when they were all about to press the Big Red Button, none of the doctors who knew better bothered to mention "You know, this isn't really going to kill all the Daleks."

Luckily they didn't go ahead with pressing the button, because if they did and nobody mentioned the Daleks would survive would be incredibly egregious.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Oh God this One Direction interview is crazy. It's a mass of echos.

I assume they are playing the part of all the cockups in Doctor Who history.
 

Shiloa

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Hats off to Billie Piper, she was excellent.
This.

She really did a good job.

Though was that actually Rose Tyler during her Bad Wolf moment being in every moment in time? Or was it simply the interface of the weapon taking the image for no real reason?
 
The last half wasnt bad since it mainly focused on the 8.5th doctor and gallifrey. But the beginning of the special barley made any sense.

It was pretty straightforward. Were you watching at the pub or something?

Though was that actually Rose Tyler during her Bad Wolf moment being in every moment in time? Or was it simply the interface of the weapon taking the image for no real reason?

It said when it first popped up that it was the Moment's interface, having taken the image of Rose for the Doctor. It meant to take an image from his past but messed up and got one from his future.
 

Showaddy

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Holy Fark I literally jumped out of my chair when he popped up.

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Zerokku

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
Also, I'll admit it's been a while since I watched it, but how exactly does this work with the End of Time? I thought the whole thing with that was that it was the time-locked Gallifrey from the end of the Time War or whatever, which... doesn't seem to fit with this?

Yeah this is nagging at me a bit as well. Not getting how the hell it fits in.
 

Slowdive

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What a brilliant episode. Just saw the Christmas special trailer. Funny thing is, I saw the Capaldi gif on the net yesterday and thought it was just a clever fan made thing.
 
I'm also interested in what Baker meant when he said he could visit last favorites or something. Was Baker actually the Doctor, or was it just a cameo?

As for the episode itself, I thought it was brilliant! I really wish Eccleston would've come back though. He would've made this episode perfect...
 

ramyeon

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This.

She really did a good job.

Though was that actually Rose Tyler during her Bad Wolf moment being in every moment in time? Or was it simply the interface of the weapon taking the image for no real reason?
I understood it as the interface taking on a form familiar to the user. But it got confused, like she said she always gets past and future mixed up and accidentally took a form from his future.
 

Patryn

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They spoke about it at the end. Multi Doctor things make the younger Doctors forget everything, so the War Doctor remembers heading off into the desert with the Moment, then next thing he remembers he's Ecclestone, and the Time Lords and Daleks are all destroyed. He puts 2 and 2 together, gets 5, and carries on exactly as he did.

Or maybe he always did, maybe Gallifrey was always destroyed, and the Doctor just never knew until now.

Also I didn't quite get the implications of Tom Baker, was the point that that was a far far distant regeneration of the Doctor who decided to revisit the Baker face?
The Curator says that he was revisiting old favorite faces in his old age.
 

tuffy

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I'm also interested in what Baker meant when he said he could visit last favorites or something. Was Baker actually the Doctor, or was it just a cameo?
I think the cameo was left deliberately cryptic and ambiguous, and was mostly an excuse to get Baker into the show.
 
Does this episode take place after the last episode aired? How did they get out of Matt Smith's memories and such? Will the Christmas Special resume where we left off?

I need answers!
 

ramyeon

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I think the cameo was left deliberately cryptic and ambiguous, and was mostly an excuse to get Baker into the show.
At the end of the day, yeah, it was. But he pretty explicitly implied he was the Doctor, I didn't see much ambiguous about it.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Yeah this is nagging at me a bit as well. Not getting how the hell it fits in.

During The End of Time, the time lords say that "The Doctor is in possession of the Moment." I assume that EoT is therefore happening concurrently with this episode, which is why we see these Doctors interacting with the military commanders instead of the Time Lord council.
 

mclem

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On the bus home.

There's something very special when a cinema bursts into spontaneous applause at the end of a film, along with certain key moments (Capaldi!)

I assume the moment of Eccleston was archive footage?

One bit which I assume the TV doesn't get is that the theatre rules section was hosted by Strax and the put on your 3D glasses section was handled by both Doctors.
 
I think the cameo was left deliberately cryptic and ambiguous, and was mostly an excuse to get Baker into the show.

The Doctor said he may retire one day and become a curator. The Tom Baker Doctor turns up and says he wanted to revisit a few favourites: that tells me he is absolutely a future incarnation.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Ok, Guys I messed up and missed it. Where can i watch it? when will it be on BBC's website?

If you're in the US there's a replay on BBC America in a few hours. If not, I assume it'll go up whenever episodes over there go up.
 
During The End of Time, the time lords say that "The Doctor is in possession of the Moment." I assume that EoT is therefore happening concurrently with this episode, which is why we see these Doctors interacting with the military commanders instead of the Time Lord council.

And likely why they decided to play EOT right after DotD
 
It was pretty straightforward. Were you watching at the pub or something?

I could follow the general plot but I couldn't follow all the little details and keep them in my head, ex, where the wormhole came from, what the shapeshifting people's motivations were, how all 12 doctors somehow teamed up, How baker managed to make an appearance, and why the consciousness of that machine looks like Rose.
 
At the end of the day, yeah, it was. But he pretty explicitly implied he was the Doctor, I didn't see much ambiguous about it.

Agreed, in addition to it being a great cameo I definitely think he was strongly implying he was indeed the Doctor.

The Doctor said he may retire one day and become a curator. The Tom Baker Doctor turns up and says he wanted to revisit a few favourites: that tells me he is absolutely a future incarnation.

Yeah.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
Smith, Tennant, Hurt were all amazing. The chemistry between 10 and 11 was fantastic and Hurt acting like their granddad was perfect. Amazing acting all around. JLC and Piper both did fantastic jobs too, Billie still looks amazing and Jenna is so damn cute.
Loved the Gallifrey parts too.


Holy Fark I literally jumped out of my chair when he popped up.

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I cannot wait, been watching The Thick of It, love Capaldi, cannot wait for 12 (13?).


Well done Moffat, hell of a job, you did it.
 

LTWheels

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I'm also interested in what Baker meant when he said he could visit last favorites or something. Was Baker actually the Doctor, or was it just a cameo?

As for the episode itself, I thought it was brilliant! I really wish Eccleston would've come back though. He would've made this episode perfect...

I think it's suppose to be more of a nod to us the audience, than everything else.
 

ramyeon

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I could follow the general plot but I couldn't follow all the little details and keep them in my head, ex, where the wormhole came from, what the shapeshifting people's motivations were, how all 12 doctors somehow teamed up, How baker managed to make an appearance, and why the consciousness of that machine looks like Rose.
Almost all of these were actually explicitly told to you during the story. Were you not listening half the time?
 

Apdiddy

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Great episode, maybe as good as Smith's first series episodes.

Although I am a bit confused -- the whole episode took place in the Doctor's own time stream. He and Clara are still stuck in his time stream! Will the series become adventures in the Doctor's time stream while the Doctor and Clara are trying to get out of it? And when the Twelfth Doctor regenerates where will it take place in the time stream or out of it? The Fourth Doctor's cameo makes you wonder what will happen to Matt Smith's Doctor.....he will be "The Curator" so it opens up the possibility that Matt Smith could come back but not as The Doctor.

It also puts the whole "Bad Wolf" episode and the entire 9th Doctor run in a new context too.
 

ramyeon

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I can't wait for Capaldi. I love Smith's Doctor, but it'll be such a nice breath of fresh air to return to an older Doctor after Tennant and Smith right after each other.
 
Almost all of these were actually explicitly told to you during the story. Were you not listening half the time?

I was listening extensively the entire time, I wasn't drunk, and I'm not retarded. Jeez. Everything was happening very fast and its hard to catch everything when a new detail is thrown at you every five seconds.
 
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