XJF
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The same way you did last time.. The ship is at the dock.
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The same way you did last time.. The ship is at the dock.
SweetJohnnyCage
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You just walk onto the ship. It's still docked I believe.
I think money only increase chances it never is 100% sure. So you have to reload until you get it. I didn't used Zanmato, it's too uncertain, and after some training and preparations you don't need it anyway. It's not an easy fight, but easier than all others.
You either haven't played Crisis Core or your statement excludes it.
OmegaDL50
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Okay going to try and kill Dark Valefor now. I think I'm ready. Tidus, Wakka, and Auron all have prepared Overdrives (Gotta love Entrust!) and Quickhit, their STR stats are about 150 each and they all have over 600MP so the expense of using Quickhit shouldn't be too much of an issue., so I'm going and try and do chain-cast Attack Reels with Quickhit Spam in between.
If I can kill Fafnir who has over a million HP, then Dark Valefor with only 800,000 shouldn't that much different.
If I can kill Fafnir who has over a million HP, then Dark Valefor with only 800,000 shouldn't that much different.
XJF
Member
Only the Besaid Jecht Sphere is blocked by a DA, and it only has 800K HP. Cake walk
Yup!
Most of the time I was just turning those annoying bee things into stone that I was 1 hit killing anyway, but then it worked on one of those giant tentacle plant things with 8000 hp.
SoraanTribal
Member
Weird, the part when you are leaving Besaid on the boat looked lower resolution than other parts of the game... 
Maybe I was imagining it.
Maybe I was imagining it.
XJF
Member
My party hits for 99999 routinely. Valefor never even got a turn.
Well of course he's a cakewalk once you max out, I don't think anyone would dispute that.
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Speaking of maxing out, got 3 characters to max out Luck yesterday. Think I'll start filling in the remaining grid with HP and run those 3 fully through, make some armor, and start taking some of the suckers down. Then the remaining 4...more earth eater zzzzz.
XJF
Member
That's insane. Decided a couple days ago not to max luck. Takes far too much time to farm Fortune Spheres
Why do they invalidate the merits of the original work? It's like saying eating a bad pizza once will ruin pizzas for all eternity, forever and ever..
You do realize that you can simply just choose to ignore it right?.. What's the deal with being so melodramatic about it.
OmegaDL50
Member
It seems ever since I started doing the Don Tonberry trick, It has become apparent that my basic attack has been mostly replaced with the Extract abilities to keep up with the constant sphere usage for having high sphere levels.
Anyone else been basically use Extract abilities as a standard attack because of this too?
Anyone else been basically use Extract abilities as a standard attack because of this too?
XJF
Member
i found they spawn most frequently northwest corner of the map (by the Al Bhed Primer) and directly behind the Save sphere in the middle of the Calm Lands
If you've unlocked and can beat KOTTOS in the Arena use it on him. Upon overkilling, he'll drop 40x whatever kind of sphere you want. As far as I'm aware this is the fastest method to obtain the 4 basic spheres (Power, Mana, Strength, Ability)
Sir Griffith
Member
Yea after thinking about it for a while yesterday, I'm not going to do it either. I guess I'll farm all the others needed for stat maxing, and fill in the rest of the empty nodes reserved for luck with HP or something. Won't really matter I suppose.
Does farming STR, Defense, Magic, Magic Defense, Agility nodes take a while?
Relative to the others, only Magic is slow-ish out of those. The Jumbo flan is a little annoying. Seems like a common way to beat him is spam Anima's Pain, which has an annoyingly long animation.
XJF
Member
I'm doing strength right now, Juggernaut. He has like 1.2M, he doesn't get a hit off on me either. Magic Defense is cake, I got all those I needed while farming Trip Ap weapons. The only one that may be difficult is Magic Spheres from Jumbo Flan. Haven't tried it yet, but I remember it being relatively difficult due to it being immune to physical damage (sans Overdrives)
Turn yourself in, there's no redeeming you.
XJF
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I was about to say that's where I've been searching to no avail, but the next battle after reading your post I find him
And that's the method I used back in the day for basic spheres. It's painful when you only get 2 though. Those lost Dark Matters;..
haha. just wait till you start capturing in the Omega Ruins. I think I wpent like 5-6 hours in there. Terrible spawn rates.
Just tried Jumbo Flan, Stock trip around grid had my main 3 (Tidus, Yuna, RIkku) Doublecasting Ultima at between 36-40K each Ultima. Or if Anima is strong enough, just PAIN jumbo flan to death.
OmegaDL50
Member
Well that was a total failure. Dark Valefor wrecked me.
I even used a Summon as a meatshield for it to eat it's Overdrive.
My accuracy also probably isn't high enough. It dodged my Quickhits.
I did manage to deal about 500,000 damage on it, so It's definitely not impossible. I just need to be slightly stronger.
I even used a Summon as a meatshield for it to eat it's Overdrive.
My accuracy also probably isn't high enough. It dodged my Quickhits.
I did manage to deal about 500,000 damage on it, so It's definitely not impossible. I just need to be slightly stronger.
I think both have their merits. The leveling in X-2 is far better, that's for sure.
XJF
Member
I did ALL mine from within 30 feet of the initial save sphere, EVERY monster in theree can spawn in that area.
OmegaDL50
Member
I don't know about that. The flexibility of the Sphere Grid in being able to customize and tailor your character to specific roles and stats makes for a unique leveling system.
I mean at it's core FFX-2 is more or less the same as the system used in FF3 and FF5, with a standard experience gain system, doesn't necessarily make it "better"
Less confusing, and less timeconsuming, better was poor word choice.
XJF
Member
yup, reloading changes the seed number for the RNG. Sorry, I just assume everyone knows these things.
Anyone know why the Penance guide says you need high luck (120+)? If I have 255 Agi and Eva, what's the purpose of the high luck? If it comes into play as to who gets attacked, I would feel if everyone has it then the effect would cancel out. Am i missing something?
Ugh, yes, it's so linear they might as well have done traditional leveling and saved everyone some time.
OmegaDL50
Member
Linear combat, linear progression system, linear area structure. At least FFXIII was consistent.
Linear characters too. Lightning was no Tsundere.
OmegaDL50
Member
Anyways, I'd say it's most definitely worth farming those Fortune Spheres
Luck affects two things:
1. The chance of your hits connecting (both you and the enemy)
2. The chance of a critical hit (both you and the enemy)
High Luck can make Accuracy and Evasion redundant.
255 Luck, 0 Accuracy and 0 Evasion is much better than 0 Luck, 255 Accuracy and 255 Evasion.
Yes, Luck is hard to get, but high enough it pretty much means you almost always hit and land a critical and if you have a weapon with Evade and Counter on it, it REALLY shines.
Luck affects two things:
1. The chance of your hits connecting (both you and the enemy)
2. The chance of a critical hit (both you and the enemy)
High Luck can make Accuracy and Evasion redundant.
255 Luck, 0 Accuracy and 0 Evasion is much better than 0 Luck, 255 Accuracy and 255 Evasion.
Yes, Luck is hard to get, but high enough it pretty much means you almost always hit and land a critical and if you have a weapon with Evade and Counter on it, it REALLY shines.
XJF
Member
THIS guide says that even with 255 luck, evasion has to be greater than or equal to 30. But yea, was just looking into this. The plan I'm doing requires
20 Strength Spheres
30 Defense Spheres
27 Magic Spheres
32 Magic Defense Spheres
55 Luck Spheres with ~448 Fortune Spheres.
This will put me in great form for Dark Aeons and Penance and requires 0 Clear Spheres. I just dread the Fortune Spheres...
Sir Griffith
Member
I dunno, that really is a shit ton of Earth Eater's. By the time you have all your characters fill out the base grid, you're already pretty damn OP. I did everything except DAs and penance back when I first played and it's just a cake walk after base sphere grid is filled out.
You know what else is linear? Your analysis of the characters.. (Im just kidding, I couldnt resist to say that xD, it sounds so edgy.)
SoraanTribal
Member
How required is it to do like.. stat maxing or whatever? I would like to do the new bosses in the International edition (since I never had that version with living in NA and all), but the idea of grinding/farming for Fortune/Luck/whatever else I'd need does not sound appealing. Is it possible to kill the bosses without maxing?
You dont need to max out anything for any boss. Even Penance(well maybe damage).