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God Of War 3 Has Gone Gold - Lots of Reviews Out Already

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H.Cornerstone

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Dogenzaka said:
Really? I understood why he was mad in the first game, but I still felt the revelation and execution of that was really stupid and not easy to relate to.

I understood his anger more in the second game, to be honest. Zeus tried to kill him, fool. I'd be pissed!
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He didn't try. He succeeded.
 
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nelsonroyale

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Lord Error said:
Yeah, they kinda messed that up in the sequel. Or he became kinda insane basically. This kind of thing was handled a lot, lot better in the first game - they nailed that motivation aspect amazingly well, and unveiled it slowly and carefully throughout the game.
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I have only played the first game so far, and thought he was basically an asshole in that as well.

The way I see it...his ingame (non-story) persona is a crazy badass...his persona in the story is probably more vile and evil than any antagonist in a game Ive played. I enjoy the game, but I am actually waiting with relish to see Kratos's (painful) death
 
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nib95

Banned
Ok just did the demo level. Off the top of my head, changes I can make out are, better contrast and shadow depth, better shadows, cleaner image, better AA, better lighting and a smoother frame rate. Nothing drastic, but enough to make the overall look and feel that much more dynamic and impressive. It mow has that umph the rest of the game has, where as before with the demo, whilst really impressive, it was not as blow your socks off as other parts.

A nice surprise is that the entire beginning segment of the demo level is different, and much, much cooler. Glad they changed it.
 
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zoukka

Member
Damn it's gonna be tough to avoid all the end game spoilers while waiting for mah new TV. I don't care about spoiled bosses too much, but I know there's some surprises in the end, has to be.
 
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Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
nelsonroyale said:
I have only played the first game so far, and thought he was basically an asshole in that as well.

The way I see it...his ingame (non-story) persona is a crazy badass...his persona in the story is probably more vile and evil than any antagonist in a game Ive played. I enjoy the game, but I am actually waiting with relish to see Kratos's (painful) death
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Uh. Yeah. Kratos was never a very good dude (though, he has shown to have some good in him). He was a brutal killer in the Spartan Army to begin with and rose up the ranks that way. He's a heavy anti-hero. He exchanged his soul for victory. Then he was betrayed by his Gods after serving them in exchange for victory. Tricked into killing his wife and child. Been through hell and back multiple times.

So, uh. Yeah. Somewhere along the way, there's no question his sanity was lost. That's why I like him though. He is unlike any "hero" we have in gaming. Greek mythology was brutal shit man. As loosely based at this series is, I'm glad they kept that part of it.
 
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RustyNails

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-COOLIO- said:
killing kratos is pointless, hell is like a cottage weekend to him.
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Yep. He'll just climb out of it and kill some underworld Gods for shits and giggles too. There's no containing the bastard.
 
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Banned
RustyNails said:
Yep. He'll just climb out of it and kill some underworld Gods for shits and giggles too. There's no containing the bastard.
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And is the very reason why Hades is pissed at him. Poor Hades, he is only doing his job containing the souls of the damned, and Kratos has not only escaped once but twice!
 
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zoukka

Member
Ballistictiger said:
Spoiler alert!

8.5 for presentation from IGN whoa what's up with that!?
I'm not reading reviews so I won't be spoiled.
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Can someone quote the overview of the presentation part in the summary?
 
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Unknown One

Member
It's pretty much Hiphopgamer ripping on the author of the IGN review for the presentation score and Gamespot for complaints about diversity. Hiphopgamer does spoil on parts of the game, so be careful if you are going to listen.
 
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Pistolero

Member
The presentation score is ridiculously low. Not commenting on anything else, but graphics, direction, the blending between gameplay and cinematics...deserves praise...a lot and lot of it. :D
 
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nib95

Banned
Ok, so 4.5 hours later I've decided to take a brief break. One of the lads wants to play the game after me so I need to do it fairly quick, plus I have other games and work to be doing which is all the more reason for more to plough through. Whilst I am playing WAY too much of it, I'm not actually rushing. Trying to explore a bit and soak the world in, but not with a magnifying glass or anything like I did with Uncharted 2 the second time. I'll do that with GOW3 the second time too.

My opinion so far? Exceptional. So much of this game is breathtaking and thrilling beyond measure. It does have it's lull moments, but I think they're necessary to pace out all the carnage. I'm playing on normal and I'm finding it's a decent difficulty. I've actually died a fair few times and now and again some of the battles are quite challenging.

The game is quietly varied offering a nice balance between general level exploration/routing, battles, puzzles, gameplay switch ups and story/cut scene. What I'm loving most though are the boss battles. Whilst none so far have been epic in the same way as the first (Poseidon), one has come close, and I actually prefer the latter bosses in terms of actual gameplay and strategy. They aren't quite as grand or elaborate (so far, only beaten 3, Helios doesn't really count as a boss battle), but they are more personal and well designed imo.

Hades is a more back to basics, old school one on one dual of gritty riveting proportions, and Hermes was just so damn quirky and enjoyable. Offering a slightly different sort of thrill ride and grand spectacle building up to a very classy end battle. With every boss though, their ultimate deaths are just so incredibly brutal you can't quite prepare yourself for what's to come.

GOW3 compared to it's predecessors is similar to what Uncharted 2 was to Uncharted. It's essentially more of the same, but just on a more polished and grand scale. With more production value, more gloss, technical merit, diversity and overall quality of pacing. Still not perfect, one example being that some of the level exploration can be a bit frustrating (dying because of missed jumps where you didn't know you had to double jump because it either came too fast, or the camera was so far back you didn't realise etc), but overall, I'd still say it was easily class leading thus far. It literally is the Uncharted 2 of the hack and slash genre.


I just hope it is longer than 8 hours for me. 12 hours would be just about right, but ideally I would have wanted it to be 15 or so hours. That's how long GOW2 took me the first time, if not longer.
 
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Combichristoffersen

Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Catalix said:
For the record, that wackiness has been knocked around ever since gowII came out, for obvious reasons :p
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Really? I've never seen anyone mention it prior to the GoW thread last year when I made it up as a joke :lol

-COOLIO- said:
killing kratos is pointless, hell is like a cottage weekend to him.
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Normal people fear Hell. Hell fears Kratos.
 
C

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Kasra_2x4 said:
where are the reveiws?
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wtffff I'm really going offtopic here but dayum , is your name Kasra? I thought I was the only one in the world xD
 
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Dogenzaka

Banned
Hiphopgamer nails it.

There is no logical reason to give God of War 3 a lower presentation score than many other less impressive titles that have come out the past few months.
 
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Animator

Member
wtf?! 8.5 to presentation?

I have no issue with their final score but giving anything less than 10 to the presentation is fucking absurd. I would like to see a single game that outdoes gow in that department.
 
Hyphen

Hyphen

Member
nib95 said:
Ok, so 4.5 hours later I've decided to take a brief break. One of the lads wants to play the game after me so I need to do it fairly quick, plus I have other games and work to be doing which is all the more reason for more to plough through. Whilst I am playing WAY too much of it, I'm not actually rushing. Trying to explore a bit and soak the world in, but not with a magnifying glass or anything like I did with Uncharted 2 the second time. I'll do that with GOW3 the second time too.

My opinion so far? Exceptional. So much of this game is breathtaking and thrilling beyond measure. It does have it's lull moments, but I think they're necessary to pace out all the carnage. I'm playing on normal and I'm finding it's a decent difficulty. I've actually died a fair few times and now and again some of the battles are quite challenging.

The game is quietly varied offering a nice balance between general level exploration/routing, battles, puzzles, gameplay switch ups and story/cut scene. What I'm loving most though are the boss battles. Whilst none so far have been epic in the same way as the first
(Poseidon)
, one has come close, and I actually prefer the latter bosses in terms of actual gameplay and strategy. They aren't quite as grand or elaborate (so far, only beaten 3, Helios doesn't really count as a boss battle), but they are more personal and well designed imo.

Hades is a more back to basics, old school one on one dual of gritty riveting proportions, and Hermes was just so damn quirky and enjoyable. Offering a slightly different sort of thrill ride and grand spectacle building up to a very classy end battle. With every boss though, their ultimate deaths are just so incredibly brutal you can't quite prepare yourself for what's to come.

GOW3 compared to it's predecessors is similar to what Uncharted 2 was to Uncharted. It's essentially more of the same, but just on a more polished and grand scale. With more production value, more gloss, technical merit, diversity and overall quality of pacing. Still not perfect, one example being that some of the level exploration can be a bit frustrating (dying because of missed jumps where you didn't know you had to double jump because it either came too fast, or the camera was so far back you didn't realise etc), but overall, I'd still say it was easily class leading thus far. It literally is the Uncharted 2 of the hack and slash genre.


I just hope it is longer than 8 hours for me. 12 hours would be just about right, but ideally I would have wanted it to be 15 or so hours. That's how long GOW2 took me the first time, if not longer.
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Remember guys, some gamers still don't know who even the first boss is.
 
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Snipes424

Member
HHG is great :lol :lol

"GoW3 deserves a 20,000 out of 10 for presentation"

zoukka said:
Presentation includes the story in IGN's review system. Probably other things too.
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Fair enough, but there have been some games with horrible stories getting extremely high presentation numbers.

So.. double standard?
 
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°°ToMmY°°

Member
Generic said:
It's a new mechanic in Halo where you hold B to go into an assassination sequence. The camera goes into a 3rd person perspective and it shows the character taking out an enemy with his combat knife. You can watch a Halo Vidoc explaining it here.

Now can you explain why Kratos' finger's are part wood, or do you have other off topic material to discuss?
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cause it's a videogame and you can't expect developers to waste their time on such futile details like kratos holding a cup in a 2 seconds scene?
 
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BeeDog

Member
People asking for consistency across the board are dreaming, there's simply no way things will ever be judged in the exact same fashion. That's just wishful thinking and boils down to inherently human errors, hidden bias, attitude, you name it, not to speak of different fucking reviewers. Don't see why people get so stuck up about petty crap, it's not like the game's reviewing badly.

Anyway, GoW3, fuck yeah! :D Watched a small snippet from the GT trailer, and this game looks completely mindblowing. Will probably take the GOTY crown for me, I love the old games and this looks like the most badass game ever.
 
BruceWayneIII

BruceWayneIII

Member
^ speaking of GOTY, when was the last time a GOTY was released in the first few months of a year?

Yeah, there will be no consistency - everyone's just as confused as the next guy/girl.
 
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Denzar

Member
BeeDog said:
People asking for consistency across the board are dreaming, there's simply no way things will ever be judged in the exact same fashion. That's just wishful thinking and boils down to inherently human errors, hidden bias, attitude, you name it, not to speak of different fucking reviewers. Don't see why people get so stuck up about petty crap, it's not like the game's reviewing badly.
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I'm not going to argue and say the score should be more or less. It's not the score that counts but the review itself (to me at least).

I would prefer a world where review scores did not exist.

But as a media outlet, some consistency is key IMO. It's indeed impossible to be 100% consistent with different reviewers, platforms, etc... but an overal idea of how games are reviewed, articles are written, etc... is just necessary. And I don't see that in IGN, or GT, or several other media outlets for that matter.
 
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Snipes424

Member
BeeDog said:
People asking for consistency across the board are dreaming, there's simply no way things will ever be judged in the exact same fashion. That's just wishful thinking and boils down to inherently human errors, hidden bias, attitude, you name it, not to speak of different fucking reviewers. Don't see why people get so stuck up about petty crap, it's not like the game's reviewing badly.

Anyway, GoW3, fuck yeah! :D Watched a small snippet from the GT trailer, and this game looks completely mindblowing. Will probably take the GOTY crown for me, I love the old games and this looks like the most badass game ever.
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I'm not complaining about the scores GoW 3 is getting, just the reasoning behind them. I have a major problem with hypocrisy and double standards, and sadly the gaming media is full of them.
 
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zoukka

Member
Deepack said:
But as a media outlet, some consistency is key IMO. It's indeed impossible to be 100% consistent with different reviewers, platforms, etc... but an overal idea of how games are reviewed, articles are written, etc... is just necessary. And I don't see that in IGN, or GT, or several other media outlets for that matter.
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Where do you base this? In what media can you find this kind of behaviour? The only thing that should be required from journalists is writing skill. They sure as fuck shouldn't cater to gamers as general. We aren't the most literate and civilized bunch. (which then again reflects as the level of professionalism in videogame journalism)
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Kintaro said:
Uh. Yeah. Kratos was never a very good dude (though, he has shown to have some good in him). He was a brutal killer in the Spartan Army to begin with and rose up the ranks that way. He's a heavy anti-hero. He exchanged his soul for victory. Then he was betrayed by his Gods after serving them in exchange for victory. Tricked into killing his wife and child. Been through hell and back multiple times.

So, uh. Yeah. Somewhere along the way, there's no question his sanity was lost. That's why I like him though. He is unlike any "hero" we have in gaming. Greek mythology was brutal shit man. As loosely based at this series is, I'm glad they kept that part of it.
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I must have missed that part, because it looked to me like the whole revenge plot was just his excuse to cope with what he did.
 
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Denzar

Member
zoukka said:
Where do you base this? In what media can you find this kind of behaviour? The only thing that should be required from journalists is writing skill. They sure as fuck shouldn't cater to gamers as general. We aren't the most literate and civilized bunch. (which then again reflects as the level of professionalism in videogame journalism)
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I'm not going into the "gaming journalism debate".

I'll try to explain by giving an example:

If game A gets a lower score for not having a MP option but game B doesn't, while both games would both have some significant benefit from having a MP mode.

A media outlet is percieved as a whole, not as some bunch of dudes working together.

Also, I should start shutting the fuck up op GAF. I never feel like arguing over the internet, yet I seem to do so every day... :D
 
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Salazar

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Deepack said:
A media outlet is percieved as a whole, not as some bunch of dudes working together.
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If reviews were anonymous—as they used to be in critical magazines of the highest prestige, including the Times Literary Supplement, until 1974—you'd have a point. They're not. It's an individual. If you don't go to reviews and to criticism in general at least in part for the variation of individual points of view, then I don't know if you should go to them at all.
 
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zoukka

Member
Deepack said:
I'm not going into the "gaming journalism debate".

I'll try to explain by giving an example:

If game A gets a lower score for not having a MP option but game B doesn't, while both games would both have some significant benefit from having a MP mode.

A media outlet is percieved as a whole, not as some bunch of dudes working together.

Also, I should start shutting the fuck up op GAF. I never feel like arguing over the internet, yet I seem to do so every day... :D
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Try to guess the problem here. Because for reals, there won't be any magical consistency in any respectable outlet. If you want it, then seek sites like xbots.com and ps3hasnogames.org. Because you won't find it anywhere else. Ever.

I can't believe how people don't understand this.
 
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Callibretto

Member
Shouldn't reviewer be specialized based on game genres or something. For example, the guy who review gow3 at ign should be the same guy reviewing other game like bayonetta, ninja gaiden, darksiders, and dante' inferno.

That way, we know what the individual score are compared with.
 
PuppetMaster

PuppetMaster

Member
Wait... IGN gave it a 93 and that's what's causing all the fuss?

I mean I love watching the HipHipGamer rant about stuff as much as anyone else, but the way he (and people here) were talking I thought they gave it a much lower score like in the 80's.
 
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Shaka

Member
PuppetMaster said:
Wait... IGN gave it a 93 and that's what's causing all the fuss?

I mean I love watching the HipHipGamer rant about stuff as much as anyone else, but the way he (and people here) were talking I thought they gave it a much lower score like in the 80's.
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It's 'cause of the rating they gave to the presentation.
 
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AstroMan

Banned
ghostofsparta said:
http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/god-of-war-3-deserves-a-10-not

He brings up good points.

Preach brother!
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Oh my fucking god no you aren't.

You aren't agreeing with the biggest clown in "games journalism". If you actually think he's right about ANYTHING you must also think Nick Simmons is an innovative artist and that white chicks is the funniest film ever made.

Are you hiphopgamer? If so, FUCK YOU.

And what's the point of saying "wait till sunday" when you tell people God of War II gets a 10 no question asked? This fucking asshole, I swear to Christ.
 
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