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[GhostTrick]

I can understand the want for that, but I don't think its absolutely necessary. And who's to say that the final product wont have that, the development team may have that added by the time the game is ready to go gold.

As for balance, I don't think the game needs that either. MK8's racing system plays so well, unless they wanted to add a new gameplay gimmick like the anti-gravity sections, there's no point in changing the system just to change it since 8's was really good. I had always expected MK9 to just have MK8's system to begin with unless they wanted to add something new.

And they don't need to double the content, they just need to create enough new tracks. Like 16 or maybe even 12. All MK's since DS have had retro courses, so all the old content would just be that.

16 or 12 ? So you're saying Same or less content that new episodes... which usually offer new mechanics/graphics and such ? That'd be pathetic.

Their obligation isn't to work on a new Mario Kart game every time they finish the last one. Maybe wait until their games are revealed in January before judging them as they could be working mainly on something completely different while providing this Mario Kart 8 enhanced version as well. Again, you know literally nothing.

I mean, their obligation isn't even to make a new Mario Kart at all. But we're not talking about their obligations but what we're hearing right now.

 

[Neo_Geo]

Hopefully released as $20-$30 DLC for current owners of digital Mario Kart 8. Release it as $30 if you own the base game, and $20 if you own the base game plus all the original DLC.

 

[marmoka]

Better yet, how about a new Metroid game instead.

How about both?

The Metroid thirst is real!

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Hopefully they make us pay for online multiplayer too.

And ban their users for sharing screenshots of Peach's vagina.

 

[jonno394]

And ban their users for sharing screenshots of Peach's vagina.

or Daisys third eye

 

[blitzwolf215]

I mean Emily is calling the thing "the Switch version of Mario Kart 8". I don't see them calling it Mario Kart 9.

Not saying she is wrong, but the info may be outdated like the playable female character in BoTW. Maybe these games were in a Galaxy 2 situation where they started off as expansions but got enough new content they just ended up being sequels.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

For Wii U owners it feels like the first year of the Switch might be a hard sell.

I'm in this boat. I have a big Wii U backlog to get through, and there's nothing about the Switch that makes me want to rush out and buy it day one.

Even if I don't have the Switch, if they release a special/limited edition of Mario Kart 8 with a soundtrack, I'll buy that shit Day 0. That soundtrack is seriously godlike. But I'm not holding my breath, since Nintendo hates my money and doesn't like me buying their soundtracks easily.

 

[Dark Cloud]

We don't know that as fact do we? I don't doubt the dock upscales the images to 1080p but I don't think we know if games actually become higher res.

I thought this thing was more powerful than the Wii U? Like Smash 4 is a 1080p game for Wii U and I would assume it will be the same for Switch when it's docked.

I look at it as if I buy a 720p tv then Smash will only be 720p, but if I buy a 1080p tv then Smash will be 1080p.

Maybe I'm confused 😐

 

[Sandfox]

This sounds pretty cool. I wasn't expecting battle mode.

 

[sanstesy]

I mean, their obligation isn't even to make a new Mario Kart at all. But we're not talking about their obligations but what we're hearing right now.

What we're hearing right now is rumors and leaks. Things you aren't actually supposed to know yet, you know?

 

[Thud]

I'd buy it again.

New tracks means more music as well ~

 

[Steph_E.]

That doesn't mean anything tbh. It was just an introduction video to the Switch. They show the basic UI's from Mario Kart 8. They could easily change up the UI's and menus to give it a different feel from Mario Kart 8 so people who bought Mario Kart 8 will feel like they're almost getting a Mario Kart 9.

But the main part of the game is getting out on the track and burning rubber, so if the tracks are the same (but supposedly with two items instead of one) that is not impressive for Wii U owners, particularly those with all the DLC.

To give those Wii U owners a reason to upgrade they need to include a lot more tracks.

Pretty excited for the console, but as a Wii U owner that already played a lot of Splatoon and Mario Kart, I really can't get excited for these rehashed games

I sold Splatoon last week on ebay. Even after ebay/paypal fees I got more for it than I paid originally (and yes, I bought it brand new!). I had invested over 200 hours in it but recently I haven't played it as much (I need to play other things as well!), so I was out of practise and doing badly in most matches - which became very frustrating as I knew I was capable of doing much better. I may buy the Switch version, but it will have to have significant changes.

 

[GhostTrick]

What we're hearing right now is rumors and leaks. Things you aren't actually supposed to know yet, you know?

So, we're not allowed to discuss these ?

 

[blitzwolf215]

16 or 12 ? So you're saying Same or less content that new episodes... which usually offer new mechanics/graphics and such ? That'd be pathetic.


I mean, their obligation isn't even to make a new Mario Kart at all. But we're not talking about their obligations but what we're hearing right now.

Every mario Kart has 16 new courses, and 16 retro courses. So if this MK has 16 new courses, it would have the same amount of new courses as most new entries plus a bunch of retro courses.

 

[marmoka]

Mario Kart 8 + Link + Villager + Isabelle + Samus + Kirby --> Greatest Mario Kart ever!!

 

[RM8]

I'm not seeing a downside to this. Perfect game gets a lot of new content, this is a system seller for me, personally speaking.

 

[Jonneh3003]

I thought this thing was more powerful than the Wii U? Like Smash 4 is a 1080p game for Wii U and I would assume it will be the same for Switch when it's docked.

I look at it as if I buy a 720p tv then Smash will only be 720p, but if I buy a 1080p tv then Smash will be 1080p.

Maybe I'm confused 😐

Yeah you're right about it being more powerful than the Wii U (according to rumors) but I don't think we have a rumor confirming that it natively renders 1080p when docked. I mean after all everything is rumor right now and can't be taken as fact.

 

[GhostTrick]

Every mario Kart has 16 new courses, and 16 retro courses. So if this MK has 16 new courses, it would have the same amount of new courses as most new entries plus a bunch of retro courses.

Yeah, but as I said, new entries aren't port. This MK having 16 new courses would basically be DLC content. New entries that usually gets new engine, new graphics, new gameplay, new assets.

 

[Kouichi]

Improved battle mode is enough to make me to double dip on this. Here's hoping Diddy Kong is also playable. I expect him getting a Mario series amiibo boosts his chances.

Oh and I pick Captain Falcon for the next Nintendo crossover character!

 

[Dark Cloud]

But the main part of the game is getting out on the track and burning rubber, so if the tracks are the same (but supposedly with two items instead of one) that is not impressive for Wii U owners, particularly those with all the DLC.

To give those Wii U owners a reason to upgrade they need to include a lot more tracks.

How many track is good enough for you? If they add 8 more cups that's 32 tracks.

 

[Litri]

Battle mode YES.

 

[wazoo]

For Wii U owners it feels like the first year of the Switch might be a hard sell.

You are right. At least, those people barely exist (in numbers).

 

[GhostTrick]

How many track is good enough for you? If they add 8 more cups that's 32 tracks.

48 more tracks. That'd be fitting for an enhanced port.

24 tracks a year.

 

[valkillmore]

Kamek playable pls!!

Also let's get Wort up in this!

 

[cireza]

You and me aren't the primary targeted audience for these remasters. Wii U had some great family games that many missed because the Wii U was piece of shit hardware.

You are right. But I hope that we won't have to wait too much for the new games to arrive...

 

[InfiniteCombo]

What we're hearing right now is rumors and leaks. Things you aren't actually supposed to know yet, you know?

There's nothing in the OP that makes it clear that these are just rumors or leaks. The closest thing to a rumor in the OP itself is just the "sources close to Nintendo" part.

 

[disap.ed]

MK64 like battle mode!!!

 

[zoukka]

You are right. But I hope that we won't have to wait too much for the new games to arrive...

You can look at past Nintendo launches, the 1st party games take a while to launch.

 

[Chase17]

edit: nvm answered above

 

[abstract alien]

Difficult for me to get excited about this, considering its just a port with added content, but I know I'll probably end up buying it again anyway, along with Smash. They are both timelessly designed, so the gameplay will always be there.

 

[BGBW]

How many track is good enough for you? If they add 8 more cups that's 32 tracks.

As I said earlier, 16 new tracks, since up the the GCN that was the minimum we got for a new Mario Kart. But preferably, 16 new retro tracks as well since since the DS, that's what each new Mario Kart has given us.

 

[GhostTrick]

So say we get 16 new tracks (the same amount of new tracks as recent games). Then all the tracks from MK8, which would be 48 passed tracks opposed to the typical 16. And then the addition of two items.

You would consider this pathetic because it has the same graphics? I'm just curious if there is any scenario where you would approve of a MK8 enhanced port.

Yes, that'd be pathetic. This was the norm before because each time, they were switching to new models, new gameplays, new stuff. But this time ? They'd use the exact same assets. I said it already, I'd find it good enough if they doubled the content. Because they had 3 years. 2 years if you don't count the DLCs.

 

[sir_bumble_bee]

You are right. But I hope that we won't have to wait too much for the new games to arrive...

As with any major console release, it'll take at least a year before the ball gets rolling with new software. PS4 and Xbox One's first 18 months mostly consisted of remaster, cross-gen games, and indies. Nintendo is trying to kickstart the Switch with most of their big IPs, get a consistently growing install base going, and hope for 3rd parties to help them out with software output for the following years.

 

[Toadthemushroom]

Yes, that'd be pathetic. This was the norm before because each time, they were switching to new models, new gameplays, new stuff. But this time ? They'd use the exact same assets. I said it already, I'd find it good enough if they doubled the content. Because they had 3 years. 2 years if you don't count the DLCs.

While I don't think it's pathetic, I see where you're coming from.

Personally, visual improvements would be preferable to none, even if they are on the same level as Mario Kart Wii, which not only reimagined how the racers and karts looked, but improved on lighting and model detail.

 

[Baleoce]

I wonder what they are going to do with Mario Kart TV? Will they relaunch it, take the opportunity to revamp it perhaps? Or just ditch it.

 

[TGMIII]

You are right. At least, those people barely exist (in numbers).

While the Wii U was hardly a success, 13 million Wii U's and 8 million MK8 is nothing to sneeze at when talking about migrating your install base for a new launch.

How many track is good enough for you? If they add 8 more cups that's 32 tracks.

If they intend on releasing it as a full priced game then I would expect what they usually deliver with new MK games, 16 new tracks & 16 retro tracks. If it's priced as a budget title then I'd be happy with 16 new tracks.

At least for me, someone who owns MK8 & the DLC, that's what I would expect.

 

[sanstesy]

So, we're not allowed to discuss these ?

What are you discussing exactly? You are not inviting anyone to discuss something, you are just projecting things as facts. Baseless speculation would be the more apt term to describe what you are doing.

 

[BGBW]

I wonder what they are going to do with Mario Kart TV? Will they relaunch it, take the opportunity to revamp it perhaps? Or just ditch it.

If they bring it back, give us options to edit it. In their effort to make it simple, they made it extremely hard capture the bits you really wanted.

 

[Steph_E.]

How many track is good enough for you? If they add 8 more cups that's 32 tracks.

Another 32 tracks would be enough on top of all the originals+DLC.

 

[cireza]

As with any major console release, it'll take at least a year before the ball gets rolling with new software. PS4 and Xbox One's first 18 months mostly consisted of remaster, cross-gen games, and indies. Nintendo is trying to kickstart the Switch with most of their big IPs, get a consistently growing install base going, and hope for 3rd parties to help them out with software output for the following years.

I find that the first 18 months of Xbox One were actually pretty strong in terms of new first party/exclusive games.

I sold Splatoon last week on ebay. Even after ebay/paypal fees I got more for it than I paid originally (and yes, I bought it brand new!). I had invested over 200 hours in it but recently I haven't played it as much (I need to play other things as well!), so I was out of practise and doing badly in most matches - which became very frustrating as I knew I was capable of doing much better. I may buy the Switch version, but it will have to have significant changes.

I am currently keeping my Wii U for two games that I really like (Bayo 2 and Hyrule Warriors). If both make it to Switch, I will probably sell the whole package.

I believe I won't be the only one doing this.

And for Splatoon, I will do the same as you. If there are some interesting changes, I will surely buy it.

 

[wazoo]

While the Wii U was hardly a success, 13 million Wii U's and 8 million MK8 is nothing to sneeze at when talking about migrating your install base for a new launch.

please stop quoting the wiiU, the targeted market is the handheld market, where this MK will be big news. In any other scenario, the switch will be a failure.

13M for the WIIU is a total failure for a global company like nintendo. OF course, game ratio is very high since every WiiU owner is plausibly a total nintendo fan.

 

[GhostTrick]

What are you discussing exactly? You are not inviting anyone to discuss something, you are just projecting things as facts. Baseless speculation would be the more apt term to describe what you are doing.

What I'm discussing ? I'm saying it'd be disappointing that after 3 years, Nintendo would come up with an enhanced port. Then I said unless they come up with a huge content.

 

[wazoo]

I am currently keeping my Wii U for two games that I really like (Bayo 2 and Hyrule Warriors). If both make it to Switch, I will probably sell the whole package.

I believe I won't be the only one doing this.

Same for me. Despite a huge backlog, the VRAM problem that hurt the WiiU (mine especially) make me pray for emulation and port solution for years to come.

 

[sanstesy]

There's nothing in the OP that makes it clear that these are just rumors or leaks. The closest thing to a rumor in the OP itself is just the "sources close to Nintendo" part.

So?

What I'm discussing ? I'm saying it'd be disappointing that after 3 years, Nintendo would come up with an enhanced port. Then I said unless they come up with a huge content.

And I say again, you don't know what else they are working on. This is not something you were supposed to know until the January conference, where we will know for sure their full launch line-up and beyond. If they want to work on something different that's their choice and again, it's not their obligation to deliver a new Mario Kart installment every 2 to 3 years.

 

[Steph_E.]

I am currently keeping my Wii U for two games that I really like (Bayo 2 and Hyrule Warriors). If both make it to Switch, I will probably sell the whole package.

I believe I won't be the only one doing this.

And for Splatoon, I will do the same as you. If there are some interesting changes, I will surely buy it.

Come what may I will be keeping my Wii U. I am sure many of my Wii and Wii U games won't reappear on the Switch. And even if, by some miracle, they did all get re-released, many (all?) will not be worth rebuying,

 

[Milly Osworth]

Or no buy.

 

[Baleoce]

If they intend on releasing it as a full priced game then I would expect what they usually deliver with new MK games, 16 new tracks & 16 retro tracks. If it's priced as a budget title then I'd be happy with 16 new tracks.

At least for me, someone who owns MK8 & the DLC, that's what I would expect.

Well it will be an entirely new proposition for a lot of customers if this system is successful. This is a game that criminally undersold only due to the bottleneck of the sales of the Wii U hardware. There's always the possibility of there being trade-in programs / digital discounts applied for owning the previous versions as well. It'll be interesting to see if they have plans for that.

If they bring it back, give us options to edit it. In their effort to make it simple, they made it extremely hard capture the bits you really wanted.

I completely agree, there wasn't enough control. All I ever wanted was a standard player camera tbh! It would be fun to see games from your opponents perspective too, and then you could have fun panning between characters and alternate views when something crazy happens.

 

[Hours Left]

Vets: Birdo, R.O.B., Honey Queen
New: Pauline, Blooper, King Bob-omb

Add Captain Falcon and an Excitebike Racer too to complement the F-Zero and Excitebike tracks from the DLC.

 

[kinggroin]

Big fat meh


I played enough Splatoon, I'd rather a new Mario Kart, Zelda won't be at launch and Skyrim is how old now?

Mario at launch is good but expected. Hope it plays more like 64.

Glad y'all seem happy though. I bet this will sell a far sight better than Wii U, especially given the rumored price.

 

[TGMIII]

please stop quoting the wiiU, the targeted market is the handheld market, where this MK will be big news. In any other scenario, the switch will be a failure.

13M for the WIIU is a total failure for a global company like nintendo. OF course, game ratio is very high since every WiiU owner is plausibly a total nintendo fan.

It doesn't matter where the Switch is marketed towards, it's still the replacement for the Wii U regardless of what Nintendo wants everyone to think and given their ever decreasing sales numbers for hardware & software they need to retain as many people as they can. Consumer retention is something Nintendo have struggled with for a while now.

Obviously the Wii U was a failure, I never said it wasn't. Based off what we know now, the games they have for the launch of their new system are 2 ports, a remastered version of a game from 2011 which will have been out on 3 other platforms for 5 months and a brand new mario game.

Am I being ridiculous in thinking that for Wii U owners the Switch isn't a highly enticing product and that leaves fair amount of potential customers on the table? Obviously this is all speculation right now and until the day of the Switch presentation anything could change but I'm just giving a point of view from someone interested but not yet sold and the current software lineup does nothing to help that.

Well it will be an entirely new proposition for a lot of customers if this system is successful. This is a game that criminally undersold only due to the bottleneck of the sales of the Wii U hardware. There's always the possibility of there being trade-in programs / digital discounts applied for owning the previous versions as well. It'll be interesting to see if they have plans for that.

I completely understand that for the vast majority of people who are going to buy the Switch, ports like MK8 & Splatoon will be completely new experiences and I have no issue with that. Don't get me wrong in what I'm saying, this isn't a case of sour grapes.

As for the trade-in/discount, I highly doubt anything like that will happen since Nintendo are still fairly incompetent when it comes to their online/account infrastructure. Plus for physical owners how would they be able to tell who owns a legal copy or not since it's now possible to exploit the Wii U and install games. Mario Kart 8 was one of the examples when the exploit first released.