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Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

PeteBull

Member
I think that men don't need to become attractive to women, let's face the truth, society is pyramidal. Those at the top think they can define what is ugly and what is beautiful, the idea is to exclude. Most men are analogous to Tati Gabrielle's hair, she has problems in the industry for not finding specialized professionals, the man in turn is deceived into wanting women who are ''socially'' (because all of this is just a construction). above his capabilities.

The secret is to understand that... think of the most beautiful woman you could wish for, now look at the Intergalactic girl, if you can understand that both of them at the end of the day are the same person in essence everything will be resolved.
If u wanna get the box ofc u gotta become attractive to women, bro, it doesnt always mean physically super attractive/fit, we as guys can make up for it with status, financials, charisma, humor, confidence etc, but u gotta have attractive traits on u, no other way ;)
And as a comparision, even that 7feet tall(maybe 6'8 she is wearing some srs heels after all;p) is more attractive from that blasian baldie ND introduced in the trailer ;)
 

bighugeguns

Member
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You'll be amazed these days how valuable and rare a casual, human, and genuine a discussion around an upcoming video game product is. You're going to have to dig hard to find it, at least one that is readily auditable and verifiable for reports.

It's kind of why a lot of games don't make a lot of sense; I bet a lot of publishers still think the internet is the same one from 10 years ago.
 
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GermanZepp

Member
  1. She’s a women so feminism
  2. She’s a person of colour so DEI Woke Mind Virus
  3. No male lead so Anti Man narrative
  4. She’s bald and unattractive so pushing a ugly woman acceptance narrative

Either give us sexy female models or straight white men so we can relate to them and live out our power fantasy

Also she looks butch .. so LGBTQ is being pushed here
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Gonna post this gem again.

You can't be disingenuous about it. There is an agenda that is pushed by many developers and is as subtle as a plain crash. Another thing is if this bothering you or not.

There is a wide spectrum of what people see has 'woke' 'or ' political' and we all folks have different thresholds.
 

Aces High

Gold Member
I will also say this:

Every major corporation does extensive market research by reading social media posts. In recent years, this has been supplemented by machine learning to analyze thousands of posts in aggregate and determine whether consumer sentiment is positive or negative.

We even found out some years ago that Sony executives were using NeoGAF threads to gauge whether people were looking forward to certain movies.

If you think the sentiment on Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and forums doesn't matter, you are mistaken. It matters to every company because it correlates with performance.
The problem with the machine learning approach is that a big portion of social media posts and engagement comes from bots, engagement pods, or other forms of manipulation.

Market research is useless if the data is distorted.

It's not hard to think of possible correlations between political bots on TicToc before elections, multibillion dollar corpos doing market research and investing in woke content, and badly done data driven product development failing left and right.
 

GermanZepp

Member
Right. I wasn't too thrilled about the main character but whatever. I've got actual problems to worry about. Not some game having a bald female instead of a female that was pulled straight from pornhub. Yeah naughty dog are woke. Big deal! Get the fuck over it. Both sides are mentally ill and go to extremes. Why is this shit getting so much attention? Nobody is even talking about all the other games that were announced. It's all getting old and tiring now. When did gaming stop being fun and become this depressing? Yeah I'm having a shit day and im ranting!
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She forgot to add the hair in her fix.

I don't know much about art but it's clear ND have a clear intention behind why the character looks like this - but it's kind of absurd for the person tweeting to claim they can "fix" this -- art doesn't work that way.

I also have no idea what NDs intention is and people are free to like it, not care about it, or dislike it.
 
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midnightAI

Banned


She forgot to add the hair in her fix.


But again, why the makeup?

It's weird because some think that Naughty Dog think they are, or would like to become, a movie studio instead of a game studio, yet, its movies that have made us think that women wear makeup for all occasions/situations which is not like real life.

(I can just imagine, 'we are rendezvousing at checkpoint alpha at 1500 before attacking the target to the north'..... 'can we make it 1530 it takes me about 30 minutes to put on my makeup')
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
You'll be amazed these days how valuable and rare a casual, human, and genuine a discussion around an upcoming video game product is. You're going to have to dig hard to find it, at least one that is readily auditable and verifiable for reports.
Oh I know, you could drive yourself crazy thinking about it. I was reading up on such things as the dead Internet theory and you just end up thinking 'what are we even doing at this point'
 

Fabieter

Member
A bounty hunter traveling alone through space, about to walk straight into the lion's den on a planet she likely won't escape from, first decides to do her makeup and get pretty. Makes perfect sense, right?

So every female bounty hunter has to look like a dude?
 

shamoomoo

Banned
I don't care if this character is a saint, the fact is that

Some pictures of this actress (not this one) actually might go either way, honestly. I just don't want to play as a character like that. My time is my most valuable asset and I will not spend it on something like that.
What kind of women are some of y'all are looking at? I'm assuming this is a racial thing,not racist but some kind of ethnic bias with regards to women.
 

Makki

Member
But again, why the makeup?

It's weird because some think that Naughty Dog think they are, or would like to become, a movie studio instead of a game studio, yet, its movies that have made us think that women wear makeup for all occasions/situations which is not like real life.

(I can just imagine, 'we are rendezvousing at checkpoint alpha at 1500 before attacking the target to the north'..... 'can we make it 1530 it takes me about 30 minutes to put on my makeup')

A bounty hunter traveling alone through space, about to walk straight into the lion's den on a planet she likely won't escape from, first decides to do her makeup and get pretty. Makes perfect sense, right?
Oh we doing fantasy storytelling needs to be realistic down to the facial makeup now, when in other arguments this very hot take has been used in the generally negatively perceived way about out of place characters or races?

I think in both scenarios that excuse is ridiculous for a videogame
 
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near

Gold Member
But again, why the makeup?

It's weird because some think that Naughty Dog think they are, or would like to become, a movie studio instead of a game studio, yet, its movies that have made us think that women wear makeup for all occasions/situations which is not like real life.

(I can just imagine, 'we are rendezvousing at checkpoint alpha at 1500 before attacking the target to the north'..... 'can we make it 1530 it takes me about 30 minutes to put on my makeup')
It's not the makeup per se. Beauty is and has always been considered important in entertainment because there is a direct correlation with audience engagement. Although this is a video game and not a film/tv show, people are still drawn to attractive characters, not necessarily in a sexual way either, but because it enhances the visual experience, by making it more immersive. I'd argue it's the same reason why we have people who are obsessed with graphical fidelity.
 
With this game probably dropping in late 2026 or early 2027, y'all are likely gonna be mad until then, which at that point people will be sick of the anti-woke overcompensating for the overcompensation of the woke, and this game will be end up an inverse Cyberpunk/Hogwarts Legacy moment for the anti-woke.

I'm really sick of it all because it seems like both sides are doing the most to overcorrect a wrong in gaming. Now it's the anti-woke's turn and some of the arguments here are just as asinine as the other sides were. Also, it's a snowball effect of ridiculousness across the Internet because rationalism and logic don't generate clicks like sensationalism does, so people hop on bandwagons and hate trains.

I've called out the ignorance of the woke in the past and now I can see that same ignorance, just inverted, permeating through the other side.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Bald and no makeup?
Nah that’s either a cancer treatment (I have experience) or a political stance. To me it simply looks like they’re trying to remove what we normally see as femininity, for whatever reason we can only guess right now. It’s definitely not a casual design choice.

Hmmm, that's a good point. Could be there is more practical reason for it.
 

midnightAI

Banned
Oh we doing fantasy storytelling needs to be realistic down to the facial makeup now, when in other arguments this very hot take has been used in the generally negatively perceived way about out of place characters or races?

I think in both scenarios that excuse is ridiculous for a videogame
Maybe, but it does give reasoning behind it, whether you like that reason or not is up to you.

Not many (any?) characters in The Last of Us wore makeup either due to it being set post apocalypse, but in Uncharted they did. 🤷‍♂️
 

Fess

Member
she's going down to a hostile planet, no one has returned from there in 600 years, she's alone, in her spaceship, why would she doll herself up like she's going clubbing?
It’s a game and as the main character she’s there to appeal to a market of gamers just as aware of how she looks as people in a club. She’s not real. Her only purpose is to pull people in and be interesting to help selling the game. And if she’s not interesting then… well, then you get this reception.

Just make her more interesting. Prettier, cooler, sexier, angrier, more funny, more badass, quirky, have cooler clothes, just do something. Right now it’s very likely the least interesting main character in a AAA game I can think of. ”Sarah Morgan disliked that” is more interesting. And that’s just sad.
 

Fbh

Member
Man all the people super worried about realism and why she can't look good because that's not realistic of how a real life bounty hunter would look are probably going to hate it when this 5′ 7″ 120 lbs woman unrealistically takes down several 4 ton sci fi mecha robots at the same time while shrugging off what would be lethal injuries in the real world.
 

Geometric-Crusher

"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
She isn't even that big, does she have some muscles? sure, but she certainly ain't no Abby. She isnt that much bigger than Vasquez in Aliens (and she's just an actress not an actual military person. I still reckon that they took lots of inspiration from Aliens)
She has more muscles than the Algerian girl boxer
 

Fabieter

Member
Maybe, but it does give reasoning behind it, whether you like that reason or not is up to you.

Not many (any?) characters in The Last of Us wore makeup either due to it being set post apocalypse, but in Uncharted they did. 🤷‍♂️

All of them looked like women even if they didn't wear make up. That's not true anymore.

With this game probably dropping in late 2026 or early 2027, y'all are likely gonna be mad until then, which at that point people will be sick of the anti-woke overcompensating for the overcompensation of the woke, and this game will be end up an inverse Cyberpunk/Hogwarts Legacy moment for the anti-woke.

I'm really sick of it all because it seems like both sides are doing the most to overcorrect a wrong in gaming. Now it's the anti-woke's turn and some of the arguments here are just as asinine as the other sides were. Also, it's a snowball effect of ridiculousness across the Internet because rationalism and logic don't generate clicks like sensationalism does, so people hop on bandwagons and hate trains.

I've called out the ignorance of the woke in the past and now I can see that same ignorance, just inverted, permeating through the other side.

I thought sony isn't doing those early reveals anymore. I would expect to have a target for early 2026 and I doubt anything will change with the hate of games which lecture their playerbase. It will probably get worse so we might see the first naughty dog flop coming, but wokemann won't understand what happened.
 

midnightAI

Banned
It’s a game and as the main character she’s there to appeal to a market of gamers just as aware of how she looks as people in a club. She’s not real. Her only purpose is to pull people in and be interesting to help selling the game. And if she’s not interesting then… well, then you get this reception.

Just make her more interesting. Prettier, cooler, sexier, angrier, more funny, more badass, quirky, have cooler clothes, just do something. Right now it’s very likely the least interesting main character in a AAA game I can think of. ”Sarah Morgan disliked that” is more interesting. And that’s just sad.
Well I dont personally have an issue with the character..... at all. I think she is cool looking, pretty, badass, has cool clothes (love the jacket, the rest of her outfit is very Aliens/Ripley like with the vest top). But I grew up in the 80's, also around the punk scene, she does not look that unusual to me at all (in fact she could have even kept the nose piercing, but jewellery and piercings is probably not the best for going in to battle). People can have issue with the character design, thats fine, but is it 80 pages worth of rant and anger? that's just weird to me, personally I'd rather discuss the game (not just the character) but that's not going to happen, as soon as someone does mention the game its then ignored and not discussed and/or deflected back to an 'ugly' character or why they hate Druckmann.
 
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Fess

Member
Nevertheless is clearly a better looking woman in the fixed image. A LOT better. We don't need big tits and assess in spandex but ffs don't make it uglier than it is
Imagine if they had gone with the design at the bottom

With the lady in black with pink hair fixing the makeup in the mirror in that trailer instead
🔥 Fits the 80s theme and music and everything. Twice the copies sold minimum.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
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Gonna post this gem again.

You can't be disingenuous about it. There is an agenda that is pushed by many developers and is as subtle as a plain crash. Another thing is if this bothering you or not.

There is a wide spectrum of what people see has 'woke' 'or ' political' and we all folks have different thresholds.
I just want to know, why and how they have it drilled into them that games have to be political..

I never saw games as political growing up 🤷‍♂️

How is this 'political'?
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Lokaum D+

Member
Imagine if they had gone with the design at the bottom

With the lady in black with pink hair fixing the makeup in the mirror in that trailer instead
🔥 Fits the 80s theme and music and everything. Twice the copies sold minimum.

it doesn't matter, since is a woman for some reason is DEI agenda nowadays, if its not a Asian skinny woman ppl ll call DEI.
 
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I thought sony isn't doing those early reveals anymore. I would expect to have a target for early 2026 and I doubt anything will change with the hate of games which lecture their playerbase. It will probably get worse so we might see the first naughty dog flop coming, but wokemann won't understand what happened.

No way this game comes out the same year as Death Stranding 2, Wolverine? and GTA6.
 

shamoomoo

Banned


She forgot to add the hair in her fix.

The "fix" image looks more game-y than the left image. Also,how do we know Naughty Dog actually modify Tati's proportion for this game?

Naughty Dog's engine could possibly have an issue rendering real people because their previous work hasn't really been about photorealism.
 
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sainraja

Member
Big companies will turn to dust until they figure out people want good games with a good story or a great artistic vision at a reasonable price. I just see a bad interactive movie and you can buy tickets for those at the theater and popcorn for less then $70.
If you think naughty dog games are bad interactive movies, then why do you show some interest (you are here) in their games?
 

Loxus

Member
Imagine if they had gone with the design at the bottom

With the lady in black with pink hair fixing the makeup in the mirror in that trailer instead
🔥 Fits the 80s theme and music and everything. Twice the copies sold minimum.

There's a place and time for everything and a space bounty hunter not gonna look like that.

Back in the 80s, this was the theme for hardcore badass women.

This game definitely took a lot of inspiration from the 80s but the anti-woke has gone mad woke with some of these takes.
 

Fabieter

Member
The "fix" image looks more game-y than the right image. Also,how do we know Naughty Dog actually modify Tati's proportion for this game?

Naughty Dog's engine could possibly have an issue rendering real people because their previous work hasn't really been about photorealism.

They were happy to show what they have done so far. It's not like they couldn't have done something by hand if scanning failed miserable. They didn't so it has to be intentional.
 

shamoomoo

Banned
This is hilarious to me. It’s such a simple tweak, makes it look more like the actual person in real life. I don’t know why western video game companies consistently try to make females more manly. Why do they hate women so much.
The "correction" make Tati character look like a PS3 game and less real vs a photo.
 
The "fix" image looks more game-y than the right image. Also,how do we know Naughty Dog actually modify Tati's proportion for this game?

Naughty Dog's engine could possibly have an issue rendering real people because their previous work hasn't really been about photorealism.

Guess you didnt follow TLOU 2 development when real life Dina was revealed. They made her nose bigger and smaller tits on the game version of her...yeah its not the engine. We can make tits as big as we want since first Tomb Raider, I doubt the "engine" was unable to somehow get them to the original size.
 
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