Nintendo: Switch dock only for charging and TV-out, Amiibo support, no commt on touch

The dock is probably going to become the new "Secret Sauce" or "dgpu" for some until someone opens one up for all the world to see.
 
Didn't the foxconn employee draw three things? The screen, the dock, and a separate unit that may provide extra power. I wonder if that ends up being true and they're just not showing it to avoid confusion.
 
This thing is going to be under $200. I can feel it.

That would be something. I wonder what R&D on this thing is. It's a screen with an NVIDIA chip and a dock. Doesn't look like that much research went into it and if they have a good deal with NVIDIA it should be cheap to manufacture.
 
I'd expect enough power to push resolution to 1080p, since I'm assuming there's no chance that the handheld is gonna output at that resolution.

So here's a thought:

The idea of the console running at higher speeds when docked doesn't seem right. I can't imagine the increase would be enough to provide very meaningful gains such as doubling framerate or resolution. And while it might theoretically enable moderate improvements in those areas, or potentially additional effects, I would assume that Nintendo would rather force developers to target a single performance standard available to gamers regardless of whether they're playing docked or undocked.

However, I think we've established that the handheld is running 720 on a 720 screen. That's not quite ideal for large televisions. So perhaps the dock has a dedicated upscaler with high-quality AA that provides a reasonably good 1080p image from the 720p source?

If implemented in HW it should introduce minimal latency.

Maybe someone with more background could provide some insight as to whether or not this is feasible?
 
Ok... Jumping in here to play devils advocate to some super wishful thinking.

In relation to how the NS performs when docked vs undocked. Does anyone here really think that the actors were actively playing those games? The least likely scenario is that they consoles the actors held were playing a video of the game they wanted to show off. The most likely scenario is that they just used dummy models and added the video later.

As for the comments about the NS dock "charging and providing power to the console". I'd present the counter argument that "charging" doesn't necessarily mean the console is powered on, hence the "providing power" statement.
 
Have you people never heard of a laptop that runs games better when it's using AC power, purely because the battery concerns are mitigated.
 
Adding hardware to the dock was not especially likely because it's difficult on developers and logistically to combine stuff like that (optimizing for dual GPUs where one can be taken offline would be annoying as hell) . Rather, it's much more likely you'd clock the existing parts higher when heat and power draw are less of a concern. That was the question, not whether the dock hid some magical hardware.
 
If it's not a touchscreen, that would be weird (and limiting, especially from a handheld perspective).

I'm glad the dock doesn't give it more power. I want the exact same experience on my TV as I would playing OTG or laying in bed.
 
Why is the "dock" so bulky then? The shape and size of that thing doesn't make sense for only charging and outputting to the tv.

Didn't PSPgo have an output to tv without some oversized docking station?
 
I'm pretty sure it will have a touch screen. Doesn't really make sense operating a mobile device in 2016+ without a touch screen. I don't see navigating their eShop with buttons working out.

As others have pointed out, the language of the rep when talking about charging and powering the console is curious and does lead one to believe they're being tight lipped on purpose to focus on the console first and foremost
 
The wording is strange to me, charging and providing power to the system? Extra power for TV display or just power?

Ugh 😫
 
What do people think about Hearthstone and Google Play tweeting about the Nintendo Switch? I'm starting to think this device might support apps and will be announced at a later date. That would obviously require touch screen controls.
 
Not fucking up game developement between handheld (could use touch) and console (docked without touch)

How in anyway would that fuck anything up. What's the big deal if when you play on the portable you get extra touch features on games. Such as on Mario Maker it's easier to make levels. Or on Zelda it's easier to select your items etc. How would that mess up game development. Also I doubt anyone would mind if there were exclusive touch games like Brain Age or Kirby Canvas Curse that can only he playable on the portable. Omitting touch that is so common on a tablet is such a bad move if Nintendo does this.
 
"If a Nintendo Switch game supports amiibo then the Nintendo Switch home gaming system will as well,"
What the hell is going on with this sentence, what a strange way to phrase it. I'd have gone with "Yes, it supports Amiibo".
 
Why is the "dock" so bulky then? The shape and size of that thing doesn't make sense for only charging and outputting to the tv.

This. It's too big for just output and charging. Fuck, all you need is an HDMI cord and micro USB if it was just that. Something's fishy.
 
No touch makes it useless in pure tablet form.

Handheld only touch games should be possible. It's also an incentive for people to undock it and carry it around with them.

Huge fuck up if it isn't touch.
 
Reggie:"we will have to be more clear in presenting NX than we did with WiiU"
Are tjey kidding right? why the hell can't they say if that's a touch screen or not(which would be so awful) also still no date for a full reveal with details about specs, battery, OS, online etc...Come on Nintendo what's the point of that?
 
Have you people never heard of a laptop that runs games better when it's using AC power, purely because the battery concerns are mitigated.

As someone who has never done any serious gaming on a laptop, I do not know whether or not this post is sarcastic
 
I'm not a techy person so this is my question to someone who is in this thread.

Isn't it possible the dock could "over clock" the gpu, CPU and all that jazz in the tablet when placed to sufficiently "providing more power"?
 
No touch makes it useless in pure tablet form.

Handheld only touch games should be possible. It's also an incentive for people to undock it and carry it around with them.

Huge fuck up if it isn't touch.
DeNA is a partner how else would you play Super Mario Run?
 
Having a tablet like decide with no touch would be ridiculous, even for Nintendo standards. Would any sane person design a handheld device that's going to run apps like Facebook or Netflix without some sort of touch based solution in place? If I'm just gonna watch a movie or browse the web on that thing, I don't want those controllers attached, and I don't want to have to have one of those joypads around to navigate. Is the device just going to be a brick when the pads aren't attached?

I don't buy it, not even Nintendo is that inane.
 
Reggie:"we will have to be more clear in presenting NX than we did with WiiU"
Are tjey kidding right? why the hell can't they say if that's a touch screen or not(which would be so awful) also still no date for a full reveal with details about specs, battery, OS, online etc...Come on Nintendo what's the point of that?

Come on man, those are just features. They did a good job pitching the main aspect of this console. We'll get more details in the near future.
 
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