Nintendo: Switch dock only for charging and TV-out, Amiibo support, no commt on touch
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I wasn't expecting PS4 Pro or Scorpio. I was expecting something that would offer an equivalent to a modern home console.
The handheld part is really going to hold this back and the battery life will probably be terrible.
I can already tell you, you can forget about a modern setup with a nice online infrastructure too. Will it have chat capability online?
Something tells me they will still be a mile behind in basic functions like friends and party chat.
The graphics for as little as they did show look like Wii U.
I'm really hoping next week more will be shown.
Lights and Waves
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So is it still more powerful than the Wii U? I just want Hyrule Warriors in 1080p with co-op.
Always-honest
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that still isn't very conclusive in my opinion..
They literally showed two current gen games from the competition running on it.
It's significantly more powerful than Wii U. Not by a full generational leap, but significantly.
Why? Nintendo never does this anymore. All reports were it's not gonna match them. Why do that to yourself?
I think they want to call it a console so people know it works with a tv like consoles usually do and so people don't associate with the limited genres of handhelds
Haven't given the DF video a watch yet, but what's your take on it?
ShockingAlberto
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If you want to think of it that way, sure.
But then that's not going to make a console magically appear.
Sorceror12
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Keep seeing people bring up.. does it have a touch screen?
of course! Just because they didn't show it off in the 3 minutes..
DeNa supports the Switch, they make most of Nintendo's mobile games.
of course! Just because they didn't show it off in the 3 minutes..
DeNa supports the Switch, they make most of Nintendo's mobile games.
But I was so excited for a true high def console + portable hybrid! Not a supercharged 3DS.
It isn't like the thing was actually working in that teaser video.
It has been announced has an hybrid age ago by the leaks, where were you ?
Da-Kid
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Yeah they wouldn't.
Aaronrules380
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Probably Egypt, cause it seems like he was in Denial
If rumored LCD specs are accurate......I would guess that he dock will be used to upscale the system's video output to 1080p (or higher?) but not changing the native frame buffer of the platform similarly to up-scaling DVD players of the past or Gen 7 and Gen 8 consoles when a games native resolution output is not 1080p.
EDIT: knowing Nintendo its just a simple dock that allows you to connect the device to the TV and nothing more.
EDIT: knowing Nintendo its just a simple dock that allows you to connect the device to the TV and nothing more.
Playing Super Metal World.
BarringGaffner
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it wasn't known that the dock doesn't have any more power..
This hybrid console doesn't have eye-popping 3D like the 3DS. Just thought you should know that.
zephervack
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720p forever and ever and ever.
That's a good idea and probably easier than adding another parallel processor in the dock, just run the chips in a low power mode when not plugged in.
It'd be cool if you can plug an external HDD into the dock.
So for me, the dock has to come with it, right? Since it's a charger and the TV output. Plus it's called Switch, so the rumors of them being sold separately I guess are not true.
I'm wondering what comes in the box. The joy-con accessory means that we'll essentially only be able to play at home with the controllers separated from each other unless we buy the Pro controller or the grip accessory, I guess?
I'm wondering what comes in the box. The joy-con accessory means that we'll essentially only be able to play at home with the controllers separated from each other unless we buy the Pro controller or the grip accessory, I guess?
JoshuaJSlone
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Whether you say docked is fast mode or undocked is slow mode is saying entirely the same thing in two ways.GhostTrick said:
Having only one resolution possibility doesn't fix the problem, though. Scale a 720-designed UI to 1080 and it's a bit blurry? Yeah, but if you just scale the whole game at 720 to 1080 then everything is blurry. But "sharp enough to not look bad at 1080, text legible at 720" is not a very hard standard to meet.Schnozberry said:
I think people are reading waaaay too much into this. The PS4 gets power, but would anyone say to do so is "charging" it? The dock will both provide power to the system so it runs now, and charge the battery so it will play unconnected later.majik13 said:
And whether the dock gives a power-up to the Switch is irrelevant to getting that. The thing is more capable than Wii U, which can do 1080p plenty fine.Backfoggen said:
Night Angel
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Yuup.When the battery is full, the dock is providing power. By providing power, it charges the handheld.
Damn, GAF is on a roll with misinterpreting pretty basic statements today.
I've been saying since the thing was speculated to be a handheld plus dock that the dock would only charge and output to tv. Got shit on by people who didn't think about it rationally.
And even now people are holding on to hope and reading into the simple phrase provided to us that power = performance and not... uh... power. As it relates to charging. Another word in the sentence.
Smh the Nintendo hype drives people crazy.
I think it's safe to assume that the base pack will include the screen, joy con controllers, dock and grip. Those parts are integral to having the whole "switch" gimmick in full swing imo.
CarbonFire
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We don't know about the possibility of external HDDs afaik.
And the extra juice will likely come in the form of just higher clock speeds on the same device when running of AC power. Because we're not stuck in 2004 anymore, and CPU architectures can do that now.
Wiiu does 1080p native for like 3 or 4 games lol. Lets relax
True. I guess I'm getting hung up on them calling the grip a "grip accessory". So I'm picturing the out-of-the-box experience as the handheld, the dock, and then the two joy-con controllers that would be held like two Wiimotes unless you buy the grip. Or maybe I'm just thinking too much on it, haha.
CarbonFire
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I'm betting the dock will be optional in Japan. Because they're largely the reason this thing is primarily a portable in the first place.
I guess Nintendo will stick to SD cards only, externals HDDs would kill the main selling point of the Switch.
I'm pretty cheezed by this, perhaps irrationally so. The real switching is the controller, not handheld to console capability that I (and many others) thought would be the main feature before today's announcement.
It's a tablet with a fancy controls. That's it. Fuck.
It's a tablet with a fancy controls. That's it. Fuck.
Take on what? The hardware? The whole system?
I like the idea. I actually would like some small thing I can take with me when I fly to e.g. a meeting with a co-worker and then play a local multiplayer game during the flight or in the hotel room. I don't think there are enough people like me to build a system around it, but whatever.
I think using the individual controller pieces standalone looks like an ergonomic disaster.
As for the hardware, the leaked specs look realistic enough for me in terms of power level. Not shooting for the stars, but at least somewhat competitive at launch, which is a very novel thing for Nintendo in the past decade.
I'm not surprised there isn't a secret GPU hiding in the dock.
Aceshighhhh
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Bummer. Hopefully the price makes up for it
Yautja_Warrior
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Makes sense from a money point of view but personally I can't think of anything worse than mobile games on this, they are bad enough on mobile phones / tablets.
I guess it won't be a problem though, as I will be playing the proper AAA Nintendo games like Zelda anyway.
Anyone who expected the dock to provide more processing power had some pretty unrealistic expectations. Providing the means to do that would have increased the total price of the system significantly.
Do we have any idea where they'll put the NFC chip? I'm guessing it could be housed inside the left JoyCon, but they may go New 3DS and stick it under the screen (which would be annoying when you want to use it while it's docked, so doubtful).
Do we have any idea where they'll put the NFC chip? I'm guessing it could be housed inside the left JoyCon, but they may go New 3DS and stick it under the screen (which would be annoying when you want to use it while it's docked, so doubtful).
I figured this would be the case, and it doesn't contradict anything Nintendo has said.
Cause they don't want someone to copy that
NinjaCoachZ
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They probably haven't commented on it yet to convey the first impression of a "portable home console" (rather than "a dockable DS).
Teletraan1
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At least they are including a charger this time around.
I'm still not understanding how this changes that, what the difference is between a "tablet with TV out" and a "true hybrid" as you and some others see it, and I'm not understanding how some people have not used a laptop in 15 years.