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Over 90% Players Can’t Run Final Fantasy 16 At 1080p 60 FPS
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Mind posting the specs? My PC cost more or less the same and I can play everything.
Or do you mean "half of what top noch PCs can run at maxed out details, 4K and RT"?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I wish it was only about framerate...
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Developers care.
You think that the infamous Witcher 3 downgrade happened solely because of console peasants?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I don't think anyone here is a developer.
FoxMcChief
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FoxMcChief
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Fbh
Member
FFXVI is one of the prime examples of diminishing returns for me.
The cutscenes are nice and a few locations look good but overall it seems incredibly demanding for a game that didn't impress me visually outside of cutscenes.
It doesn't help that the world feels straight out of the PS3 era, not graphically but in design. The open areas feel static, empty and lifeless with just small groups of enemies waking around, cities are only explored through cutscene and linear story missions while during regular gameplay you only go to small towns with relatively few NPCs, there are no interesting traversal options and dungeons are basically corridors connecting combat arenas.
The cutscenes are nice and a few locations look good but overall it seems incredibly demanding for a game that didn't impress me visually outside of cutscenes.
It doesn't help that the world feels straight out of the PS3 era, not graphically but in design. The open areas feel static, empty and lifeless with just small groups of enemies waking around, cities are only explored through cutscene and linear story missions while during regular gameplay you only go to small towns with relatively few NPCs, there are no interesting traversal options and dungeons are basically corridors connecting combat arenas.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Kinda, yes. The Witcher 2 was a graphical showcase and barely any PC could run it maxed out when it came out.
Nemesisuuu
Member
Back to cinematic experience eh?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It'll be nice! Otherwise why the heck should it matter to the discussion being had in console gaming threads?
XXL
Member
Which (that 10%) is more than the percentage of PC users on Steam using a 4070 and above.
Like I said a warzone.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Are those PC users here at Gaf, where the discussions are happening?Which is more than the percentage of PC users on Steam using a 4070 and above.
Like I said a warzone.
So I can say that FF7Rebirth will forever be a blurry mess, because I won’t be getting a PS5 Pro.
XXL
Member
Same. Tons of people are going to get banned. Lol.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'd be curious how many PC gamers here have a 4070 or better GPU.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Not who you think. Especially when actual PC players here on gaf show what their rigs can do. Some in this thread showed what their rig makes this game look like, and I doubt the PS5 Pro version comes close.
But I also think some of you are forgetting why PC gaming is great. It can play the Sony games, Xbox games and even better versions of Nintendo games. Not to mention the emulation and vast superior access to VR game catalogs.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I do.
We did a poll not long ago asking about people's GPUs. Doesn't ask about model but about VRAM but still, you can get an idea:
Hardware - How much vram does your GPU have?
There are several threads talking about the amount of vram that games require. And the discussion about how much is needed can become quite heated. But now I pose the question of how much vram do gaffers have on their GPUs. So let's find out what is the average vram people have around here.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Analysis - What GPU generation do you have
I'm curious to know how people have adapted to the current GPU market. What does the Gaf community uses to play games. So my question is which generation is your Graphics Card? People can be more specific to the model they own in the comments.
1080p issues?
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XXL
Member
This might be the biggest case of moving the goal post I've ever seen.
The comparisons are about different platforms, not who is watching them.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
106 is a lot more than slightly above 60, but yes, the game seems unreasonably demanding.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
For some reason, japanese devs seem to have a harder time optimizing their games properly, be it for consoles or PC, when compared to western devs.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I haven’t moved a thing. Some of you are acting like the majority of people that PC game here belong in that disingenuous 90% that this thread is about.This might be the biggest case of moving the goal post I've ever seen.
The comparisons are about different platforms, not who is watching them.
That’s like me saying any improvements made by the Pro are hardly noticed because 95% of PS5 owners are on a base PS5.
Oh i meant to say 4070, but the point still stands. Lets see the benchmarks in a month or so with updated drivers to and patching to get a real idea of performance.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Less sexy click bait. The story should be about poor optimization, not PC strength.
XXL
Member
Maybe it needs patches, that's possible.
But Ill tell you this.
If FF7 Rebirths upgrade is any indication of what we can expect for FF16s PS5 Pro update..
The PS5 Pro version of this game is going to blow the PC version out of the water.
Kacho
Gold Member
Never forget
Final Fantasy XIII producers: Traditional RPG towns are tough to do in HD
Lots of fans think it would be great to see the classic Final Fantasy VII remade in full HD glory on a platform like the PS3, but Final Fantasy XIII producers Yoshinori Kitase and Motomu Toriyama say it would be really tough to do. In a recent interview with Ultimania, they say that the limit...
www.engadget.com
Bojji
Member
I completed this game on PS5 with all the side quests and can tell you that it runs like shit. I was forced to use quality mode because of terrible framerate and IQ of performance mode and sadly, quality mode has places (entire areas) where framerate is below 30 and where resolution drops to 1080 (that looks really bad with FSR1).
And game drops to 720p in every fight in performance mode, you may not believe this but this is the truth.
Vast majority of console games don't allow you to do this. Motion blur yes, sometimes chromatic abberation but DOF switch is very rare.
They have problems since PS3 and never recovered.
LOL, DF said that maybe they will have to use PSSR to upscale from 720p to 1440p to achieve FPS closer to 60.
Rebirth is a PS4 game compared to XVI.
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A tale as old as time, this is common on PC from experience. The games are patched over time but the higher end cards can usually brute force on day 1.
I can't think of a time when a console version of a game has "blown the PC version out of the water", it's usually the complete opposite. I'm sure there's a few examples but it won't be the norm.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
And he’s expecting PC users to get banned for stupid comments.
XXL
Member
This is what I was replying to.
If this is correct....I expect the PS5 Pro version to be better than that after seeing the upgrade FF7 Rebirth got.
That's all I'm saying. I also said its possible the PC version needs to be patched/fixed.
Basically the PS5 Pro version will look better than 1080p 60fps at medium settings imo.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
XXL
Member
XXL
Member
I literally said this is a possibility.
kevboard
Member
the issue with some settings on PC is that for draw distance and for I think shadows, the PS5 version uses a mix of low, medium, and high in one setting.
so for the draw distance the PS5 will have the low setting for very distant detail, medium for the mid distance detail and high for the near distance detail.
similarly for shadows, where near shadows are high quality, but far away shadows are low quality.
in these cases I chose medium, although high didn't meaningfully change performance thanks to the dynamic resolution DLSS setting.
but I thought it was the fairest comparison when comparing performance and image quality as they should roughly even out.
and I got a nearly locked 60fps during traversal and combat vs the highly unstable framerate that regularly dips below 48fps on PS5.
just showcasing that even my rusty old, soon to be replaced 3060ti can deliver a superior experience than PS5, as many in this thread (edit: see 1 post below lol) seem to think it's hard to match PS5 here on PC, or that the PC port is bad for some reason when in reality the game is simply extremely demanding on both systems
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Unrivaledx88
Member
This is why consoles are Superior, and games are better optimized when the hardware is similiar for everyone .
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yup. Where FF16 was a mess for all PS5 users.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Unrivaledx88
Member
Sure bud
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The game in question, FFXVI, still hasn't received any performance improvement patches on PS5. The Quality mode is still 30 FPS some drops and Performance mode is nowhere close to a locked 60, plus it needs to go down to FSR1 720P in battles and looks blurry as fuck.
I had to play in the 30fps mode cause at least it was mostly consistent, and at least they added a motion blur intensity slider post release, the default launch only option had notable ghosting in the 30fps mode.
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