Zathalus
Member
The digital foundry video on the subject.
You can quite clearly see the fps drops in Eikon fights as well as roaming. The resolution drop to 720p gets mentioned as well.
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Over 90% Players Can’t Run Final Fantasy 16 At 1080p 60 FPS
You can quite clearly see the fps drops in Eikon fights as well as roaming. The resolution drop to 720p gets mentioned as well.
Dr.Morris79
Member
marjo
Member
Yeah, but then how would the warriors get to post their clickbait threads?
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Looks sexy on PC!Sucks for those people. Game is pretty mind blowing at 4K/DLAA/Ultra/100+ fps
Few of my shots:
recursive
Member
Why so I can play 1080p medium? What is wrong with you?
akira__
Banned
Look at those beautiful shots, we all learned something from that post. That even though there is hysteria surrounding the PC release. With proper hardware it looks absolutely spectacular.
Great, now we can discussion with actual source, but those Eikon fights are special boss battles that are outliers from normal gameplay fights. During those Eikon fights the dev team decided to push graphics Fidelity. Thus the engine with the ps5 is fighting through those boss battles which are also half cutscene.
Thus the statement that the ps5 goes to 720p during battles seem to be misleading.
MadchesterManc
Member
I honestly don't get why some of you are upset
Branded
Member
So you're telling me a team of 12 can crank out something like Witchfire (yes, quickly becoming a fanboy of that game) that runs flawlessly (no crashes or stutters) at Ultra settings, at 1440p, at 144fps (capped), at "Ultra Quality" upscaler and have it look like this as well?
The above images don't even take into account the moments when you're in combat and there's a fuckton of effects on the screen with multiple enemies that can quickly ramp up in numbers. Still runs silky smooth on mid-range hardware (6800XT OC + Ryzen 7 5800X3D)
So basically the hundreds working on a JRPG did fuck all when it came to optimization on PC. Got it.
The above images don't even take into account the moments when you're in combat and there's a fuckton of effects on the screen with multiple enemies that can quickly ramp up in numbers. Still runs silky smooth on mid-range hardware (6800XT OC + Ryzen 7 5800X3D)
So basically the hundreds working on a JRPG did fuck all when it came to optimization on PC. Got it.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Zathalus
Member
It drops to 720p in regular fights. The Eikon fights are the only ones where you get the 720p + 30ish fps combo as well.
akira__
Banned
Do you have source for that statement. That it goes to 720p during normal fights?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That image was from Eurogamer / Digital Foundry. My bad, but such images are usually very easily recognized here.
Final Fantasy 16: as close to flawless as we've seen in a long time
Final Fantasy 16 arrives in excellent condition, giving players exactly the experience the developers intended.
www.eurogamer.net
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Maybe because the game runs like poop.
nikos
Member
So you're telling me a team of 12 can crank out something like Witchfire (yes, quickly becoming a fanboy of that game) that runs flawlessly (no crashes or stutters) at Ultra settings, at 1440p, at 144fps (capped), at "Ultra Quality" upscaler and have it look like this as well?
The above images don't even take into account the moments when you're in combat and there's a fuckton of effects on the screen with multiple enemies that can quickly ramp up in numbers. Still runs silky smooth on mid-range hardware (6800XT OC + Ryzen 7 5800X3D)
So basically the hundreds working on a JRPG did fuck all when it came to optimization on PC. Got it.
Username checks out.
(FFXVI reference).
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MadchesterManc
Member
Your GTX 1650 isn't gonna last forever
Bojji
Member
Or used 3080 12GB, 3080ti, 3090
^ All of those GPUs are more powerful than PS5 Pro and will give everyone great experience.
(timestamped)
And this is performance of performance mode with 720-1080p DRS in open world:
"Locked 60" is far, far away.
akira__
Banned
Or used 3080 12GB, 3080ti, 3090
^ All of those GPUs are more powerful than PS5 Pro and will give everyone great experience.
(timestamped)
And this is performance of performance mode with 720-1080p DRS in open world:
"Locked 60" is far, far away.
Those are the Eikon fights, which happen during the storyline. They are boss battles and not normal fights. They are meant to be very epic. But they are a bit too epic for the base ps5.
Nobody is stating that there is the case of a locked 60 throughout.
Corporal.Hicks
Member
Is the full game more demanding than the demo? I had about 100-120fps in the demo at 4K DLSSQuality + FG, but according to Tom's hardware my card only has 75fps in the full game at the same settings.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Maybe some of our PC Master Race can learn something from this.
Sleepwalker
Member
I beat the game in performance mode on PS5 and it was pretty blurry lol
Kacho
Gold Member
That’s what I’m rocking. The sensible family sedan tier. Great card. Love it.
Bojji
Member
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Are “they” in the room right now?
Zathalus
Member
Drop to 55 fps occurs fighting the raptor birds at 27:13. Indicating dropping to 720p was not enough to sustain a locked 60fps at that moment. The accompanying article has a screenshot during combat as well, and that certainly looks under 1080p.
Fabieter
Member
Its right there that it tops at 1080 but it very often drops lower. And it's less stabile at doing so.
Moses85
Member
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Same reason some are upset about the PS5 Pro.
Kind of funny seeing the lesser platform users poke fun at the platform above it. PS5 to PS5 Pro, and PS5 Pro to PC. I think it’s the pointy knees argument.
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Kacho
Gold Member
It's for all fights (timestamped):
wtf that's so blurry lol
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And some are mad that the truth about "PC Gaming" is being revealed.
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
Why would Series S do this?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Who’s mad?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Dude, what truth?
akira__
Banned
Just because it can happen under certain conditions with performance mode doesn't mean indicative of normal behavior.
Final Fantasy 16: as close to flawless as we've seen in a long time
Final Fantasy 16 arrives in excellent condition, giving players exactly the experience the developers intended.
www.eurogamer.net
> John: " Final Fantasy 16 arrives in excellent condition and gives players exactly the experience the developers intended. It's one of the most polished games we've seen this year on a technical level, taking into account elements from visuals and audio to technology and performance. It's not quite flawless, but it's as close as we've seen for a long time - and that's worth celebrating"
> " Final Fantasy 16 offers players the choice between quality and performance modes, with both using aggressive dynamic resolution scaling (DRS) and TAA to reduce shimmer and noise. Quality mode is typically 1080p to 1440p, upscaled to 4K, while performance mode seems to top out at 1080p but often drops lower"
Yet there is group of posters making it seem as if the game is running horrendously on the base ps5.
side note: It's the only game that I played on graphics mode 30 fps instead of performance mode this gen. So I wouldnt agree with John, the performance was lacking.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That most PC gamers don't have the PCs that's often compared to console to win "Gaming wars" type arguments. I'm only talking about the "buy a PC" crowd. Not every PC gamer pushes that lame message.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Shhhhhh. Remember the rules for the Super Sexy Big Dick PC Club.
Zathalus
Member
Call me crazy but in my opinion having roaming dropping often out of the VRR window and combat dropping to 720p and still cannot hold a stable 60 doesn’t fit my definition of running well.Just because it can happen under certain conditions with performance mode doesn't mean indicative of normal behavior.
Final Fantasy 16: as close to flawless as we've seen in a long time
Final Fantasy 16 arrives in excellent condition, giving players exactly the experience the developers intended.
> John: " Final Fantasy 16 arrives in excellent condition and gives players exactly the experience the developers intended. It's one of the most polished games we've seen this year on a technical level, taking into account elements from visuals and audio to technology and performance. It's not quite flawless, but it's as close as we've seen for a long time - and that's worth celebrating"
> " Final Fantasy 16 offers players the choice between quality and performance modes, with both using aggressive dynamic resolution scaling (DRS) and TAA to reduce shimmer and noise. Quality mode is typically 1080p to 1440p, upscaled to 4K, while performance mode seems to top out at 1080p but often drops lower"
Yet there is group of posters making it seem as if the game is running horrendously on the base ps5.
side note: It's the only game that I played on graphics mode 30 fps instead of performance mode. This gen. So I wouldnt agree with John, the performance was lacking.
That only applies to the performance mode of course, the quality mode was decent, albeit 30fps. That’s the mode I played the game on.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So you have to own a PC that’s powerful, in order to talk about powerful PC’s being better than consoles?
Well shit, I guess people that don’t own sports cars can’t say that a Lamborghini is faster than my Malibu.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I think there's no point in looking at people with midrange builds when discussing PS5 Pro vs PC stuff.
That would be like saying "oh but most Sony gamers have a PS5, so the Pro model doesn't count".
What I mean is, who gives a shit about the lowest range models? If I have a 4070 Super and some new system comes out, I'll compare that system to what I already have, and not to what a poor kid in some slum uses to watch anime and play LoL.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
This is known since.... always.
And why should we care about what most PC gamers have???
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akira__
Banned
Because it's the topic of this thread:
"Over 90% Players Can’t Run Final Fantasy 16 At 1080p 60 FPS"
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But aren’t the thread title and topic disingenuous?
Are 90% of the people that bought FF16 on PC not able to run it at 1080p 60fps?
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I disable depth of field in every game I play. Can't do that on a console.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Seems like most console games let you turn that off. Like motion blur.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
And how this affects those 10% that "can"?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Most? Are you counting since PS2 era games?
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Current gen.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
So, far from most games.
Alebrije
Member
This gives a sample that the so called PC Master Race belongs just for a few part of PC users. Glad for them but honestly is expensive to get a PC that runs all ultra. My son plays on PC and spent 1500 U.S. on his setup and its not Even the half of what top noch PCs can run.
That is why a prefer the console ecosystem, You get more performance por the price You pay.
That is why a prefer the console ecosystem, You get more performance por the price You pay.