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[analog_future]

Sucks for those people. Game is pretty mind blowing at 4K/DLAA/Ultra/100+ fps

Few of my shots:

 

[Zathalus]

Sure. But the performance is the same on a $399 console as it is on a $539 GPU (not counting all the other components of that PC).

That's the problem.

It’s not though, the PS5 drops well under 1080p and even then doesn’t hold a stable 60. The 4070 is certainly performing better.

 

[Fabieter]

Sure. But the performance is the same on a $399 console as it is on a $539 GPU (not counting all the other components of that PC).

That's the problem.

The console version drops to 720p quite alot(always in fights) to maintain 60 fps as good as possible.Thats more than half of the pixel the 4070. Iam sure its a bit better optimized on consoles but its not that far off.

 

[Gaiff]

Sure. But the performance is the same on a $399 console as it is on a $539 GPU (not counting all the other components of that PC).

That's the problem.

The PS5 drops to 720p and into the 30s. It's always 720p in battles. How is the performance the same?

This has to be trolling.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Sure. But the performance is the same on a $399 console as it is on a $539 GPU (not counting all the other components of that PC).

That's the problem.

Since you seem to want it so bad:

 

[Palabragrís]

Well, I've been using a ASUS TUF A15 gaming laptop for playing since 2021 and this is the first game that it can't run properly, not even at minimun settings. It's time to upgrade to a new gaming laptop, I guess.

(In case you are wondering, I'd love to build a proper desktop gaming PC for this one, but with the prices here in my country, that goes far beyond what my wallet can afford right now. Thanks for asking, anyway).

 

[Gaiff]

Since you seem to want it so bad:

Thinking that in 2024 a $400 console from 2020 performs like a $500 2022 GPU. How does that thought process even work?

 

[Fabieter]

Well, I've been using a ASUS TUF A15 gaming laptop for playing since 2021 and this is the first game that it can't run properly, not even at minimun settings. It's time to upgrade to a new gaming laptop, I guess.

(In case you are wondering, I'd love to build a proper desktop gaming PC for this one, but with the prices here in my country, that goes far beyond what my wallet can afford right now. Thanks for asking, anyway).

Asus Laptops are awesome tho.

 

[Gaiff]

Well, I've been using a ASUS TUF A15 gaming laptop for playing since 2021 and this is the first game that it can't run properly, not even at minimun settings. It's time to upgrade to a new gaming laptop, I guess.

(In case you are wondering, I'd love to build a proper desktop gaming PC for this one, but with the prices here in my country, that goes far beyond what my wallet can afford right now. Thanks for asking, anyway).

Not even with DLSS? Also, settings don’t have that much of an impact in this game.

 

[TintoConCasera]

thought

doubt

But I guess that when everything else is done, making shit up is the last resort.

 

[Palabragrís]

Not even with DLSS? Also, settings don’t have that much of an impact in this game.

Not even with that, and I tried, but the game goes below 30 fps, at least in the demo. Now, I played it on PS5 so it's not like I'm missing on it. It's just that I dislike Sony, so I'm always trying to play the games on other platforms rather than PlayStation.

 

[Zathalus]

Not even with that, and I tried, but the game goes below 30 fps, at least in the demo. Now, I played it on PS5 so it's not like I'm missing on it. It's just that I dislike Sony, so I'm always trying to play the games on other platforms rather than PlayStation.

Is that a laptop with a mobile 3070?

 

[Palabragrís]

Is that a laptop with a mobile 3070?

No, it comes with mobile 2060 actually. And a Ryzen 7 btw.
I know it sounds low spec for today's standards, but it has worked really well for me. Until this game, at least.

 

[akira__]

The PS5 drops to 720p and into the 30s. It's always 720p in battles. How is the performance the same?

This has to be trolling.

Could you add some sources for those statements?

 

[DryvBy]

This is why these PC Bros (defined as PC fanboys) really need to quit talking up the PC. The PC is as powerful as you can afford it to be. Most can't afford it to be more powerful than a Series S.

 

[Trilobit]

PS5 wishes it could hold 60fps for more than 5% of the entire game, at any resolution. Even at 240p I don't think it could.

 

[BlackTron]

Well, I've been using a ASUS TUF A15 gaming laptop for playing since 2021 and this is the first game that it can't run properly, not even at minimun settings. It's time to upgrade to a new gaming laptop, I guess.

(In case you are wondering, I'd love to build a proper desktop gaming PC for this one, but with the prices here in my country, that goes far beyond what my wallet can afford right now. Thanks for asking, anyway).

Which GPU? I have an F15 but now I wanna DL the FF16 demo just to see what happens. I'm pretty sure the demo is loaded with cutscenes too

edit: NVM I'm dumb, you already answered this

 

[M1chl]

More you buy more you save.

On upgrades

 

[Zathalus]

No, it comes with mobile 2060 actually. And a Ryzen 7 btw.
I know it sounds low spec for today's standards, but it has worked really well for me. Until this game, at least.

Oof, yeah that is not going to work well in this game unfortunately. That’s is quite a bit under the PS5 spec.

 

[Zathalus]

This is why these PC Bros (defined as PC fanboys) really need to quit talking up the PC. The PC is as powerful as you can afford it to be. Most can't afford it to be more powerful than a Series S.

Over 90% of GPUs on Steam are more powerful than the Series S.

 

[Gaiff]

Over 90% of GPUs on Steam are more powerful than the Series S.

That’s an endless cycle.

PC gamer: Makes unfounded and incorrect claim about consoles.

Console gamer: Replies to PC gamer and makes an even stupider statement.

Repeat.

 

[recursive]

- Unable how? Are they forbidden to upgrade?
-Is the game unlimited for the non masses how?

BRB lemme go buy my rtx4090 so I can run this at 1080p 60fps high settings.

Bro your take is weird.

 

[SyedDanishAnwar]

As per a video by Jarrod Tech, almost all modern AAA games need at least 12 GB vram (Laptop 4080/Desktop 4070) to be playable at decent settings - 60 fps and 1440p.

If cant afford a good rig, you must dial down your expectations.

But games that require high end gaming rig to play well dont really sell well.
So, SE should also dial down its expectations regarding sales.

What these devs dont realize is most of us dont need hyper real visuals. Most of us would be happy with graphics similar to Uncharted 4, LOU and Elden Ring that plays flawlessly on mid range systems.

 

[Zathalus]

That’s an endless cycle.

PC gamer: Makes unfounded and incorrect claim about consoles.

Console gamer: Replies to PC gamer and makes an even stupider statement.

Repeat.

Yeah it’s a weird claim, if somebody had said most don’t have a PC as powerful as a XSX/PS5 then that is factually true. But the Series S? Come on, a 8 year old 480 is more powerful than that.

 

[Palabragrís]

I've been doing some research and I think I'm upgrading to a laptop similar to this one (it looks like a direct upgrade from the laptop I'm using right now, which is something I'm really confortable with). I also have a fast m.2, which is the one I'm using on my current PC, so I think it could be enought to play this and other games properly, at least for some years. Not top of the line, I know, but it's closer to what I can afford... at the next CyberDay xD

And yeah, ASUS laptops are great. Not that they don't come with some issues (with my current A15 I had problems between the two GPUs it uses; I had to update the BIOS to fix it), and I've heard they've been doing some shady practices on the desktop landscape, but I have nothing wrong to say about them. At least, so far.

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[Jakk]

This is why these PC Bros (defined as PC fanboys) really need to quit talking up the PC. The PC is as powerful as you can afford it to be. Most can't afford it to be more powerful than a Series S.

Based on what? Doesn't look like that to me at first glance: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
Sure, most people don't have high end GPUs, but looking at the top 10 most used GPUs I can see maybe 2 which are weaker than what is in Series S. Also, the biggest issue with Series S is its memory. Almost everyone on PC has 16 GB RAM or more.

 

[DryvBy]

That’s an endless cycle.

PC gamer: Makes unfounded and incorrect claim about consoles.

Console gamer: Replies to PC gamer and makes an even stupider statement.

Repeat.

Me, being both: "Join the fun, PC gamers, and console war."

 

[Hrk69]

The PC is as powerful as you can afford it to be

Welcome to the real-world buddy

 

[Heisenberg007]

The PS5 drops to 720p and into the 30s. It's always 720p in battles. How is the performance the same?

This has to be trolling.

No, sir, it doesn't.

 

[Gaiff]

I've been doing some research and I think I'm upgrading to a laptop similar to this one (it looks like a direct upgrade from the laptop I'm using right now, which is something I'm really confortable with). I also have a fast m.2, which is the one I'm using on my current PC, so I think it could be enought to play this and other games properly, at least for some years. Not top of the line, I know, but it's closer to what I can afford... at the next CyberDay xD

And yeah, ASUS laptops are great. Not that they don't come with some issues (with my current A15 I had problems between the two GPUs it uses; I had to update the BIOS to fix it), and I've heard they've been doing some shady practices on the desktop landscape, but I have nothing wrong to say about them. At least, so far.

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Asus has good products, but I’m wary of them due to their practices regarding customer service and warranty claims.

Also, I assume the laptop has usage beyond gaming as well? The one big disadvantage on laptops are that you cannot upgrade the core components, so it can be a problem much quicker than with desktops.

Regardless, FF XVI is certainly the exception and not the rule.

 

[Palabragrís]

The PC is as powerful as you can afford it to be.

I know I'm getting into an old argument, but hasn't it been like that since... the 70s? When only those who could afford a floppy disk reader or a cassette reader could play the best games of their time? If you look at PCs just as graphics powerhouses, then you are correct. However, PCs have other advantages consoles don't have, especially in regards to accessibility to older games in your library. Not that PC gaming doesn't have disadvantages; it has lots of them (trying to use a PC in the living room is a shore), but its versatility compensates for that.

 

[TheMan]

Still rockin a 2070s here, but tbh that’s enough for like 95% of pc gaming. That said I do planning on upgrading in the next couple of months

 

[Gaiff]

No, sir, it doesn't.

Oh, really?

It turns out that when the developers mentioned they were targeting 60fps in battle only, they meant exactly that. The second you initiate combat, the internal resolution drops like a stone, hitting as low as 720p in the process.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Oh, really?

It ranges between 720p-1080p, hence the DRS in play.

It doesn't run 720p, 30 FPS as you said in your original comment.

 

[rodrigolfp]

BRB lemme go buy my rtx4090 so I can run this at 1080p 60fps high settings.

Bro your take is weird.

Buy a 4080, 4080 super, 4070 super or 4070Ti.

Your take that you need a 4090 is weird.

 

[Gaiff]

It ranges between 720p-1080p, hence the DRS in play.

It doesn't run 720p, 30 FPS as you said in your original comment.

No, I said it drops to 720p and into the 30s such as with this:

It's not performing like a $500 GPU. Lay off the crack pipe.

 

[JimboJones]

That’s an endless cycle.

PC gamer: Makes unfounded and incorrect claim about consoles.

Console gamer: Replies to PC gamer and makes an even stupider statement.

Repeat.

100% of players playing on PS4 can't play it at all!1!1 checkmate

 

[akira__]

No, sir, it doesn't.

Adding sources to these discussions will increase the quality.

Just having baseless statements and emotional rants. Makes the thread read like one of that weird purple board.

 

[Wastelander92]

I’ll play it on Switch 2 then

At that crisp 360p 16FPS

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Minsc]

If there's any one thing I can say about FFXVI it's that it runs like absolute dog shit in performance mode, and in no way does it maintain 60fps. I'd love to see a FPS bar graph on that game, it must be awful.

 

[JimboJones]

If there's any one thing I can say about FFXVI it's that it runs like absolute dog shit in performance mode, and in no way does it maintain 60fps. I'd love to see a FPS bar graph on that game, it must be awful.

I remember reading entering battles can get the performance a better lock to 60 but it automatically drops the resolution to the lowest it can go for the duration. Out of battles it goes back to flakey framerates again with a bump in resolution.

 

[UnrealEck]

Steam hardware survey includes millions of PCs used in offices or for general basic work which happened to have had Steam installed.
It's a very silly metric to use to say 'X% of PC gamers can't run Y% game.'

 

[PectacularOz]

PS5 can't do it either. What did people expect.

I am not bashing anyone here. But on PS5 it runs at sub60 in a lot of cases at 720p-ish resolution (upscaled). Most people's PCs are probably slower on average than a PS5 (pure speculation on my part).

Comparison is the theif of joy.
PC players love to tout how much more powerful their machines are. But it's mostly hypothetical and completely ignores how "tuned to the PS5" their games are.

 

[Zathalus]

No, sir, it doesn't.

It drops to 720p in combat to maintain 60fps. But even then it can drop to the 50s with the Eikon fights dropping to 30fps in some sections. Outside of combat it can drop resolution as well, and FPS can drop to the low 30s. The PS5 can most certainly not offer a 1080/60fps experience, so the shade thrown at PC in this thread is pointless.

 

[SHA]

And then SE keeps wondering why their games don’t sell to expectations. Not only this is coming a year late, it’s also as usual for SE an unoptimized disaster.

There should be a thread for most optimized 9th gen engine games.

 

[Zathalus]

There should be a thread for most optimized 9th gen engine games.

My vote goes to Decima, amazing on both consoles and PC.

Sony should license the shit out of it.

 

[akira__]

It drops to 720p in combat to maintain 60fps. But even then it can drop to the 50s with the Eikon fights dropping to 30fps in some sections. Outside of combat it can drop resolution as well, and FPS can drop to the low 30s. The PS5 can most certainly not offer a 1080/60fps experience, so the shade thrown at PC in this thread is pointless.

Sources, add some sources. You're pointing toward a source that doenst state what you are stating.

 

[rodrigolfp]

But it's mostly hypothetical and completely ignores how "tuned to the PS5" their games are.

Not hypothetical as there are gazillions of games to show that, including FFXVI.

 

[SHA]

My vote goes to Decima, amazing on both consoles and PC.

Sony should license the shit out of it.

GG guys are bunch of weirdos, they are hobbyists.