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PoliGAF 2014 |OT2| We need to be more like Disney World

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benjipwns

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http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...n-accused-killing-slow-cooker-court/22925379/
Livonia — A Detroit woman was ordered Thursday to stand trial in the killing of her friend beaten with a slow cooker after the two argued about politics.

Tewana Sullivan, 50, who is charged with murder, cried at her preliminary hearing as she heard graphic details about the fatal Oct. 22 assault on Cheryl Livy, 66, with a kitchen appliance.

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Livy was discovered barely breathing with the cord of the "busted" slow cooker around her neck in her apartment around 10:45 p.m. at the McNamara Towers senior housing complex in the 19300 block of Purlingbrook, officer Thomas Blauvelt testified.

Blauvelt said he found "blood all over the walls, all over the floor, all over the victim."

"The Crockpot is busted over her head with the cord around her throat. She was barely breathing," he said.

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Defense attorney John McWilliams said the two women had argued over "presidential politics."

"Whatever the controversy is between Democrats and Republicans," he said.
I'm glad to see that in the comments of every story on this nobody has rushed to judgement about which party was who in this recipe for a disaster.
 

benjipwns

Banned
Rock, Flag and Eagle
In an interview last month with Lars Larson, National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent blamed President Obama’s election on people who forgot that “Martin Luther King died so that we would someday judge by content of character instead of color of skin.” It seems that Americans missed out on voting for a true American hero: Sarah Palin.

“She is my hero,” Nugent said of the former half-term Alaska governor. “Sarah Palin is the perfect example of what our Founding Fathers envisioned for an experiment in self-government.”

Nugent was especially impressed by Palin’s decision to resign midway through her first term as governor: “She quit because the left hate machine was so overwhelming her with frivolous litigation that she did the most courageous thing in the world and she handed her governor duties to the lieutenant governor while she was taking on this hate onslaught of the left so that Alaska would be properly served by someone who could pay attention to the responsibilities of the office of government while she was fighting off the leftist mongrels. She’s my hero.”

After plugging Palin’s new TV show, Nugent gushed that she is “an amazing American and she brings forth so much good that the general media would not bring forth, she’s a reminder that the heart and soul of working-hard, playing-hard, being-the-best-that-you-can-be America is alive and well.”
 
benji, you need to go into those "woe is us, corporations rule all" threads where everybody bemoans how bad things are now and drop some historical examples. Its damn near annoying. OT political threads are sometimes like talking to those people in that SNL skit
 

FyreWulff

Member
Oh yes, so brave to resign while being investigated for ethics violations. And then claiming you're doing so to avoid cost to the state, and then people figure out later she was quoting billable hours that the state lawyers got paid anyway.. there was no extra cost for the ethics violations investigation.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Oh yes, quitting her job as governor so that she could seek far more lucrative deals working at Fox and doing book tours had nothing to do with it, I'm sure.
 

benjipwns

Banned
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...8fc358-ac8d-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html

Hillary Rodham Clinton, who won’t yet say whether she is running for president, is assembling a massive campaign team-in-waiting that outstrips anything on a Republican side that remains factionalized and focused on knocking off one another.

At this point, without so much as an announcement, she has settled on — at the least — a campaign chairman, a campaign manager, a chief strategist and lead pollster, another pollster, a lead media adviser, a communication director, a deputy communications director, a focus group director and a communications strategist.

She is also closing in on a New York City campaign headquarters and a date to make all of this official.

Some senior staff are signing on without nailing down the usual conditions of a new job, such as a salary or starting date. Recruitment is being led by White House senior adviser John Podesta and manager-designate Robby Mook, with Clinton making many of the final decisions herself.

Clinton faces no competition for Democratic campaign talent and is said to prefer to wait as long as possible to begin campaigning, but she has assured senior advisers that she would put the legal framework of a campaign in place this spring.

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Her effort at this stage looks a lot like an incumbent’s reelection campaign: She will be running largely in support of a sitting president and his agenda, and is busy hiring many of President Obama’s former aides.

Jim Messina, who helped engineer Clinton’s downfall in 2008 as a senior aide to Obama’s campaign, now runs a super PAC devoted to supporting her in 2016. “It’s her turn and her time,” he said on MSNBC this week. “We’re going to do whatever it takes to make sure she’s the president of the United States.”

No Republicans now moving toward active candidacies can say that they are as far along in staffing their upper ranks with the kind of experienced people whom Clinton is bringing aboard. She’s also locking in wealthy donors and has a head start on other ground organizing and fundraising because of the efforts of outside groups supporting her.

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her advisers are working hard to fashion ways to make her seem hungrier, scrappier and less like the inheritor of Obama’s mantle. A small but expanding cadre of close advisers is looking at ways to keep her in fighting form through a slow and uneventful early campaign season.

Strategies to distance herself from Obama include a focus on more populist and base-friendly economic issues, as well as suggestions that — despite her tenure as his secretary of state — her foreign policy would be more self-assured than his.

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That leaves Clinton considering what advisers describe as a “soft” or small-scale launch in April that would allow her to raise money and hire staff but delay traditional daily campaigning until the summer. By comparison, Clinton began campaigning for the 2008 election in January 2007.

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Clinton is likely to launch an exploratory committee or other placeholder entity in early April, to take advantage of most or all of the federal campaign fundraising period that begins April 1, four strategists and supporters said.

The details of what kind of entity she should launch are still under debate among close advisers, strategists said. They requested anonymity because Clinton is still considering her choices and has made it clear that she wants to keep most of the deliberations private.

An exploratory committee would function as a de-facto announcement, but Clinton could then take her time establishing muscular organizations in Iowa, New Hampshire and other key states, one Democratic strategist supporting her said.

“She wouldn’t really be exploring anything,” the strategist said.

A “leadership” PAC would be another way of planting her campaign flag without announcing a formal Clinton for President organization, and money that a PAC took in would not count against the federal totals for what individuals may give directly to campaigns.

But it now appears less likely that Clinton would form her own political action committee, strategists said. That is mostly because, like an incumbent, Clinton already has a ready political network and no fear of running out of money.

It is still quite possible that Clinton would skip the stutter-step approach and simply announce her full-fledged presidential campaign this spring.

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Podesta is advising her unofficially and is expected to become the campaign chairman. He has already announced that he will leave the White House within weeks. White House communications director Jennifer Palmieri is expected to assume the same title for the Clinton campaign in March or April.

Collectively, Clinton’s team represents a break from the past. With few exceptions, none of the new team played the most senior roles in her 2008 campaign, and many worked actively against her as part of the Obama operation. More hiring is underway, filling out press, research, digital, political, field and other departments.

Clinton is revamping her communications and press strategy after a 2008 campaign marked by toxic relations between the campaign and the press. Joel Benenson, an Obama pollster now serving as a chief Clinton adviser, Palmieri and Podesta all have good relationships with reporters.

Recent discussions among the Clinton cadre have centered on ways she can communicate through the political press and in spite of it, strategists said, including ways she can exploit social-media outlets that did not exist when she ran in 2008.

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One strategist advising Clinton said the differences­ will showcase some of Clinton’s more populist and “base-friendly” domestic-policy ideas in the absence of strong primary opposition.

Speaking in Canada last month, Clinton said that although she credits Obama with leading the country out of a deep recession, “I would have differences, everybody would have differences, about what else could have been done.”

She has also hinted that she will cast her national-security leadership as more sure-footed than Obama’s. A telling remark to the Atlantic magazine last summer about Obama’s trademark caution on foreign affairs later brought an apology.

“Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” she had said.

At the same time, Democratic strategists said, no one wants a repeat of the awkward 2000 campaign, when Al Gore, the sitting vice president, appeared to stiff-arm President Bill Clinton. Obama is said to be prepared to do whatever he can do to help her.

I think the important thing is this. That we all agree, no matter what our politics, that Jim Messina is fucking creepy.
 

Chichikov

Member
Lord of War has an awesome opening credit sequence.
Yeah, though the CGI aged kinda badly.
Wait, what were talking about?

Oh right, Jim Messina being creepy.

If I give a 1.5 line for how many windowless vans he own, anyone taking the under?
Didn't think so.
 
I think the important thing is this. That we all agree, no matter what our politics, that Jim Messina is fucking creepy.

I love his work with Kenny Loggins.

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Y'know when you read an article, and as you go deeper into it, it gets weirder and weirder?

Whitening Bobby Jindal

Bobby Jindal may expose a contradictory fetishism of color among Republicans in both Louisiana and nationally. But it would seem liberal delight over the portrait exposes the investment many Democrats have in the superficialities of their own antiracism.

The fuck.
 
Governor Christie signed a controversial bill Thursday that will make it easier for towns to sell their aging drinking water systems to for-profit companies by eliminating a public vote on such sales.

The bill pitted large for-profit water companies against an unusual alliance of groups opposing the proposal, including environmentalists and the state advocate for utility ratepayers, who say the bill could bring higher water rates.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/environment/christie-signs-bill-easing-water-system-sales-1.1266069
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I thought our friend, Metatarsals would appreciate this story:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...ou-going-to-believe-me-or-your-own-lying-eyes

There was a debate being done on that idiotic Obamcare subsidy lawsuit, and one of the people bringing the lawsuit, Michael Cannon was one of the participants. He cited a story from a certain health reporter that allegedly substantiated his claim that the subsidies were never supposed to be for people who lived in states that didn't have a state exchange. One problem, though. The moderator of this debate happened to be that very same reporter and tried to point out that he took her argument completely out of context (gee, sounds familiar).

But what made this story even better was that the reporter/moderator clarifying her own comments wasn't good enough for Cannon, and he insisted that he was the the one, not her, who knew exactly what she was trying to say!

These are the people who control most of the country, ladies and gentlemen.
 

Diablos

Member
lmao that is an ancient post

Good to know that Diablosing also works in retroactive hypotheticals.

You seem to think everything will cause a wave one way or the other, when in reality most people don't really care about most things in politics.
I understand that, but there's no telling what would have happened on the court or in US politics had Bork got through, regardless of what common people thought of it or did not. Everything we do has an impact on the future, even things we take for granted or don't realize.

In a world where Bork gets on the highest court of the land, 50 other things could have happened to Democrats that changed the outcome of numerous things leading up to this day. We're so far removed from it, thus being a waste of time to speculate what could have been. All people knew for damn sure at that time was Bork being really bad news to progressive values.
 

Metaphoreus

This is semantics, and nothing more
I thought our friend, Metatarsals would appreciate this story:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...ou-going-to-believe-me-or-your-own-lying-eyes

There was a debate being done on that idiotic Obamcare subsidy lawsuit, and one of the people bringing the lawsuit, Michael Cannon was one of the participants. He cited a story from a certain health reporter that allegedly substantiated his claim that the subsidies were never supposed to be for people who lived in states that didn't have a state exchange. One problem, though. The moderator of this debate happened to be that very same reporter and tried to point out that he took her argument completely out of context (gee, sounds familiar).

But what made this story even better was that the reporter/moderator clarifying her own comments wasn't good enough for Cannon, and he insisted that he was the the one, not her, who knew exactly what she was trying to say!

These are the people who control most of the country, ladies and gentlemen.

Cannon was one of the people who originally developed the challengers' arguments in King, but he has nothing to do with the case (though he did file an amicus brief). He just works for Cato.
 

Diablos

Member
Cannon was one of the people who originally developed the challengers' arguments in King, but he has nothing to do with the case (though he did file an amicus brief). He just works for Cato.
"I just watched my friend murder someone after years of providing inspiration, but all I ended up doing was film it."
 
lIn a world where Bork gets on the highest court of the land, 50 other things could have happened to Democrats that changed the outcome of numerous things leading up to this day. We're so far removed from it, thus being a waste of time to speculate what could have been. All people knew for damn sure at that time was Bork being really bad news to progressive values.

At that point you might as well cease all future speculations about politics with "we can't know for sure because butterfly effect" and close the thread.
 

Diablos

Member
I thought I could control myself, but I couldn't. You're just too funny.
I think you really want to call me a dumbass, but okay.

At that point you might as well cease all future speculations about politics with "we can't know for sure because butterfly effect" and close the thread.
I just think it's silly to go back all the way to Bork and cry about how IF ONLY he had been on the court maybe things would have been different today because he died. A bunch of things could have been different, and I'm not trying to exploit the butterfly effect angle here, but we're so, so far removed from that period...
 
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thepotatoman

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lmao that is an ancient post


I understand that, but there's no telling what would have happened on the court or in US politics had Bork got through, regardless of what common people thought of it or did not. Everything we do has an impact on the future, even things we take for granted or don't realize.

In a world where Bork gets on the highest court of the land, 50 other things could have happened to Democrats that changed the outcome of numerous things leading up to this day. We're so far removed from it, thus being a waste of time to speculate what could have been. All people knew for damn sure at that time was Bork being really bad news to progressive values.

Right, and I think it's good to appreciate how that move is likely positively impacting progressives for such a long period after it happened, even if we can't specifically predict every detail that changed from it.

I just didn't think it's fair to bring up examples about it changing entire election results, because even though we'll never truly know, I think it's pretty fair to say that likely wasn't going to happen.
 
www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/us/polit...a-quandary-for-hillary-clintons-campaign.html

As a presidential candidate in 2008, Mrs. Clinton angered some of her Wall Street donors when she came out early in support of the regulation of derivatives and other complicated financial products and called for eliminating the “carried interest” loophole that allowed some financiers to avoid paying millions in income taxes. She also said that as president, she would create a cabinet-level position to fight poverty.

Hillary was more left wing than Obama in 2008 wowzers.
 

Wilsongt

Member
Only a matter of time before the Fox slippery slope appeared. Forced vaccines could lead to forced abortions.

Congrats, Obama. You just turned vaccines into a wedge political issue.
 
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