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[Holmes]

Sen. Richard Burr(R-NC): I'd Vote For Bernie Sanders Over Ted Cruz

http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u=f2c10d91dab9823489f8889c0&id=f7329c8bd0&e=b95ab53273

 

[Black Mamba]

It is hilarious seeing Cruz's fellow GOPers hate him. He gets what he deserves.

Also, I totally get it.

Cruz is not just an asshole, he's an unrelenting asshole. He is impossible to bargain with. He makes no deals. It's his way or no way.

trump, on the other hand, has spent his entire life bargaining and making deals. Trump does not argue or demand he get everything he wants every time. Trump isn't a real conservative but you can work with him. Cuz is completely impossible to deal with.

Remember is school there was always that one person who was really bright and had to make sure that everyone knew they were bright. And on group projects you had to do it their way no matter what? That's Cruz.

Everyone who knows him hates him. Even people who agree with him! And they don't just hate who is he, they hate how he operates. You can't get around that.

Honestly, I could see the GOP trying to primary him in the not too distant future.

 

[theprodigy]

Sen. Richard Burr(R-NC): I'd Vote For Bernie Sanders Over Ted Cruz

LOL

And Hillary has about half of them, ergo half the total delegates she needs.

I think this will be wrapped up by Super Tuesday, on both sides.

whether Hillary wraps up the nomination by then is going to be independent of her superdelegate total, because if Sanders actually puts up more of a fight than expected (especially if he's actually ahead somehow) it's not like she's going to maintain that lead

 

[A Human Becoming]

Honestly, I could see the GOP trying to primary him in the not too distant future.

You mean in his next Senate race? 2018 is not far away.

 

[Aaron Strife]

http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u=f2c10d91dab9823489f8889c0&id=f7329c8bd0&e=b95ab53273

Yessssssss

I was hoping there would be some wacky tea party candidate in this race. Imagine this taking out Burr in the primary so Ross becomes that much more of a favorite.

 

[gutter_trash]

Um.

he was born under Single Payer Health Care in Canada but done goofed renouncing his Canadian Citizenship

 

[Black Mamba]

You mean in his next Senate race? 2018 is not far away.

Most likely the one after in 2024. 2018 would be too soon.

 

[B-Dubs]

Most likely the one after in 2024. 2018 would be too soon.

Dunno, depends on how damaged he is after all this and if they have someone who could win.

 

[FyreWulff]

Um.

Doesn't he have coverage for being a Senator?

 

[Holmes]

Has this Iowa poll from Emerson been posted?

Clinton 52%
Sanders 43%

Sharp gender divide. Clinton with 63% of women, Sanders with 68% of men.

Trump 33%
Ted Cruz at 23%
Marco Rubio 14%
Ben Carson 9%

http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_542e7f5df4e14162851de1c77b0df5f4.pdf
http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_6f6d0c66f9ec4beebc1e88ca4f41f4c9.xlsx?dn=ECPS iowa_.xlsx

 

[ivysaur12]

Sen. Richard Burr(R-NC): I'd Vote For Bernie Sanders Over Ted Cruz

WHAT

 

[Basileus777]

It's too late for that. At this point the only opportunity left to stop Trump is the convention. If he sweeps the states through South Carolina then it's over.

I don't even see how that is possible unless Cruz collapses. With Trump and Cruz as the top two delegate earners the party has no chance in hell of brokering a convention in a way they'd like.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Dunno, depends on how damaged he is after all this and if they have someone who could win.

I'd like to see polling of his favorability ratings in Texas.

 

[PBY]

Trump 33%
Ted Cruz at 23%
Marco Rubio 14%
Ben Carson 9%

http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_542e7f5df4e14162851de1c77b0df5f4.pdf
http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_6f6d0c66f9ec4beebc1e88ca4f41f4c9.xlsx?dn=ECPS iowa_.xlsx

LAWD

Dat C+ 538 rating

 

[Holmes]

Here are the new CNN numbers for Iowa.

Sanders: 51%
Clinton: 43%

Trump: 37%
Cruz: 26%
Rubio: 14%
Carson: 6%

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/polit...rnie-sanders-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html

Two polls confirming Trump ahead in Iowa and who knows where the Dem race is at?

 

[PBY]

Here are the new CNN numbers for Iowa.

Sanders: 51%
Clinton: 43%

Trump: 37%
Cruz: 26%
Rubio: 14%
Carson: 6%

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/polit...rnie-sanders-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html

Two polls confirming Trump ahead in Iowa and who knows where the Dem race is at?

YO ITS HAPPENING

 

[ErasureAcer]

Bernie up in Iowa 51-43 according to latest CNN-ORC poll.

Hillary's whole case is negative attacks which aren't even true. Her entire campaign should be fired. Very weak strategy. We are in the information age.

 

[Basileus777]

Two polls with Trump ahead 10 points in Iowa? Wtf?

 

[PBY]

Two polls with Trump ahead 10 points in Iowa? Wtf?

 

[gutter_trash]

Two polls with Trump ahead 10 points in Iowa? Wtf?

Rafael Cruz's birther chickens have come home to roost

 

[PBY]

Trump twitter seems to indicate he hasn't seen these yet...

 

[Basileus777]

Someone needs to photoshop Palin onto that card.

 

[Holmes]

Bernie up in Iowa 51-43 according to latest CNN-ORC poll.

Hillary's whole case is negative attacks which aren't even true. Her entire campaign should be fired. Very weak strategy. We are in the information age.

Your opinion on the Emerson poll?

 

[Teggy]

Um.

I can't. I just can't.

 

[RustyNails]

How can two polls be so completely opposite with regards to Democratic polling, between Emerson and CNN?

Black Mamba, Pigeon, please unskew the polls for me?

Edit: Emerson poll looks horrible from cursory look: telephone, 5.9% moe, 271 LV sample size

 

[Fenderputty]

I'd like to see polling of his favorability ratings in Texas.

I was just thinking the same thing. I thought he was liked by the voters in TX

 

[Incognito]

Here are the new CNN numbers for Iowa.

Sanders: 51%
Clinton: 43%

Trump: 37%
Cruz: 26%
Rubio: 14%
Carson: 6%

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/polit...rnie-sanders-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html

Two polls confirming Trump ahead in Iowa and who knows where the Dem race is at?

i mean, yeah, usual caveats blah blah. dumptruck of salt. rv vs lv.

still startling to see these numbers this close to election

 

[Tesseract]

bernie is killing it, he's just tremendous

 

[Black Mamba]

How can two polls be so completely opposite with regards to Democratic polling, between Emerson and CNN?

Black Mamba, Pigeon, please unskew the polls for me?

Edit: Emerson poll looks horrible from cursory look: telephone, 5.9% moe, 271 LV sample size

There's no real reason to even bother because the Iowa Cacus won't be determined by overall vote.

 

[thefro]

How can two polls be so completely opposite with regards to Democratic polling, between Emerson and CNN?

Black Mamba, Pigeon, please unskew the polls for me?

Edit: Emerson poll looks horrible from cursory look: telephone, 5.9% moe, 271 LV sample size

CNN poll is the same yuuuge margin of error

CNN/ORC surveyed 2,002 Iowa adults by telephone Jan. 15 to Jan. 20, including 266 likely Republican presidential caucus-goers and 280 likely Democratic presidential caucus-goers. Both party samples have a margin of error of plus or minus six percentage points.

 

[RastaMentality]

The DMR poll comes out the 31st?

 

[Black Mamba]

Also to CNN poll according to Silver:

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 7m7 minutes ago
A lot of differences in these polls are based on how tightly polls are screening voters. Looser screens help Bernie & Trump.

For instance, the CNN poll implies a turnout of about 320K in the Iowa GOP caucus, versus ~120K in 2012.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Trump and Cruz are neck-and-neck and Hillary's killing Sanders (55-38) with previous caucusers inside that poll

 

[NeoXChaos]

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 10m10 minutes ago Washington, DC
CNN has a net-49 point gender gap on the Democratic side, appears to show men as half of electorate, or slightly more (won't happen)

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 9m9 minutes ago Washington, DC
(In 2008, exit polls had women as 57% of the Iowa caucus electorate)

Harry Enten ‏@ForecasterEnten 6m6 minutes ago
Playing off @nate_cohn, the CNN poll suggests males make up 53% of the IA Dem caucus electorate. They were *43%* in 2008.

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[Holmes]

White men are taking the country back by voting for Sanders?

 

[Black Mamba]

I can't imagine there are more Dem caucus goers in Iowa that are men versus women. That on its face seems weird.

Trump has work to do, still.


Also, wanted to share this hilarious Ron/Rand Paul gif: https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/690264243279695873

 

[RustyNails]

Emerson is using 2012 GE voting to reflect LV population. Is this good or bad?

 

[Iolo]

Also to CNN poll according to Silver:

320K estimated GOP turnout?! The previous record was 250K --- for Obama. WTF?

What are their estimates for Dem turnout then?

... seriously, if Hillary leads 55-38% among 2008 caucusgoers, they must be predicting another 100,000 people to turnout over 2008. That seems like madness.

 

[Black Mamba]

Emerson is using 2012 GE voting to reflect LV population. Is this good or bad?

No idea, but it can't be worse than CNN's which has more men than women and like a billion too many people coming out to vote.

 

[disastermouse]

I'm just warning you all now:

If Hillary wins Iowa, I'm going off with every Cher, drag queen, and yaaaaaassssss! gif I can find.

You have been warned.

Isn't she still heavily favored to win Iowa? Why would you celebrate her winning a state that she's supposed to win?

 

[RustyNails]

No idea, but it can't be worse than CNN's which has more men than women and like a billion too many people coming out to vote.

Could be all the college going Bronie Sanders crowd...

 

[Black Mamba]

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‏@daveweigel
Jeb! reminds crowd that his dad and brother have been president. "I've seen how it's done the right way and how it's done the wrong way."

still the worst campaigner I've ever seen...

 

[NeoXChaos]

Ariel Edwards-Levy ‏@aedwardslevy 30m30 minutes ago
Live-caller IA Dem polling since 1/1:
CNN Sanders +8
Qpac Sanders +5
ARG Sanders +3
Selzer Clinton +2
Marist Clinton +3

Greg Sargent ‏@ThePlumLineGS 33m33 minutes ago
Area neutral reporters unleash tweetstorm about poll showing Bernie up, ignore poll showing Hillary up

.

 

[And_Gignac]

The clintonsplaining about the CNN poll is amazing.

Maybe the same level of scrutiny should be held with the Monmouth/KBUR one?

I am delightfully enjoying the establishment dems melting down.

 

[Veritigo_X]

still the worst campaigner I've ever seen...

Lindsey Graham tries to give Bush a boost in N.H.

Fewer than 40 people showed up to greet Jeb Bush, with Graham in tow, at a VFW hall here Wednesday afternoon, but Graham’s succinct summation of the case for Bush as the country’s next commander in chief drew hearty applause from those in the room.

 

[teiresias]

Good Bernie numbers. Hopefully he pulls it off and can start dismantling Planned Parenthood and the HRC, those absolutely horrible organizations that have done nothing but pander to the status quo.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I love the pro Bernie crowd around campus. They think I am an easy target because of my Make America Great Again hat but they come to realize that their participation ribbon upbringing has left those unsatisfied, they just want to have victories.

 

[B-Dubs]

still the worst campaigner I've ever seen...

It's like he's trying to lose this thing, the man isn't even trying to win.

 

[soul creator]

White men are taking the country back by voting for Sanders?

It seems to basically be "Your life sucks now because of the oligarchs" vs. "Your life sucks now because of the Mexicans/Muslims/etc."

 

[Kyosaiga]

Don't Bernie supporters remember what happened with Obama when he tried to pass moderate legislation?

Like why would Beenie be different? It'll just be a repeat of 2010 in 2018 where Bernie supporters will feel "betrayed" because they have shit knowledge of how politics in the U.S. Works