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PoliGAF 2015-2016 |OT3| If someone named PhoenixDark leaves your party, call the cops
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ugaboga232
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We think you're a liar: discuss.
What are these questions, seem incredibly harsh ones to start (they went easier on bernie i thought compared to hilary and o'malley and I'm a bernie supporter).
User 463088
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Yes. My queen. Yes, that was an answer and a half.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary gesticulating like Trump for a bit, seemed honestly pissed for a minute there.
Cesare Borgia
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Actually when she was his age she was supporting Barry Goldwater.
I love the passion she just exhibited. It fired me up a bit even.Yes. My queen. Yes, that was an answer and a half.
shinra-bansho
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Why would the Clinton News Network ask such a meanie question?
Roland_Gunner
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We think you're a liar: discuss.
But this really is HRC's biggest problem, people who don't follow politics closely see the Clinton's as dishonest. She needs to address it head on.
Edit: She killed it! Clearly had a response planned out.
shinra-bansho
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Well that's exactly what a liar would do, no?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Who watched all 11 hours of Trey Gowdy unless they wanted to die?
User 463088
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The Caucus will be over before this question is asked.
User 463088
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Who watched all 11 hours of Trey Gowdy unless they wanted to die?
Um....
: raises hand :
RustyNails
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I did. I was at work but it was worth it.Who watched all 11 hours of Trey Gowdy unless they wanted to die?
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'm not watching but did Bernie Sanders enthusiastically say he's going to raise taxes? Is he even interested in winning or just from an alternate reality? This is like a caricature of what Republicans always portray Democrats of being at this point.
I'm not watching but did Bernie Sanders enthusiastically say he's going to raise taxes? Is he even interested in winning or just from an alternate reality? This is like a caricature of what Republicans always portray Democrats of being at this point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtplKTHa4TA&t=0m36s
Haha. Just wrote his own GE attack ad for the GOP.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/...alk-to-you-about-love-and-kindness#.voJqbDrr2
Loooooong piece, but really interesting.
I can't imagine what it would be like going through a fraction of the shit she's had to put up with.
User 463088
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These are completely loaded questions. She's handling them incredibly well.
ErasureAcer
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Haha. Just wrote his own GE attack ad for the GOP.
Because there are so many Americans making more than $250,000/year. And the net is a savings anyhow. There is no attack line but I agree...I'm sure they'll try.
Bernie can run the ad on how the Republicans have tried to dismantle healthcare altogether costing the nation millions of dollars in their pitiful attempts. That ad is way more effective.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Because there are so many Americans making more than $250,000/year. And the net is a savings anyhow. There is no attack line but I agree...I'm sure they'll try.
Bernie can run the ad on how the Republicans have tried to dismantle healthcare altogether costing the nation millions of dollars in their pitiful attempts. That ad is way more effective.
Are you familiar with politics at all?
Because there are so many Americans making more than $250,000/year. And the net is a savings anyhow. There is no attack line but I agree...I'm sure they'll try.
Bernie can run the ad on how the Republicans have tried to dismantle healthcare altogether costing the nation millions of dollars in their pitiful attempts. That ad is way more effective.
the ad will say 'we will raise taxes, yes we will.' surrounded by 'yes we can' shit and a scary voiceover. "$250,000" or "net savings" will not appear at all
OrangeGrayBlue
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Smart answer about the Bernie ad. Exactly what I've said she needs to do: Keep it positive, but make a case for your own candidacy. She did exactly that
User 463088
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the ad will say 'we will raise taxes, yes we will.' surrounded by 'yes we can' shit and a scary voiceover. "$250,000" or "net savings" will not appear at all
But all people have to do is go online, search Bernie's plan, do the math and see that it's all fine, really. /s
NYCmetsfan
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This is what's so frustrating. The majority of the people have it good... They don't want change. There costs aren't going to dramatically change. They vote. The idea you can get then to raise taxes on themselves for care they're going to think is worse is insane.Because there are so many Americans making more than $250,000/year. And the net is a savings anyhow. There is no attack line but I agree...I'm sure they'll try.
Bernie can run the ad on how the Republicans have tried to dismantle healthcare altogether costing the nation millions of dollars in their pitiful attempts. That ad is way more effective.
Cesare Borgia
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Very impressive performance from Hillary. She's going to wipe the floor with Cruz.
ugaboga232
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This is what's so frustrating. The majority of the people have it good... They don't want change. There costs aren't going to dramatically change. They vote. The idea you can get then to raise taxes on themselves for care they're going to think is worse is insane.
What are you saying about the majority of people having it good with regards to healthcare...
Otherwise I completely agree that being so progressive and upfront makes you a huge target. Maybe people will impress us all.
Agree. Proud of all three.Only got to catch bits and pieces of it, but I liked what I saw. The format works pretty well for the Democratic side; the Republicans need their screaming matches, though.
They should've done one of these (this format) every other week. Great advertising for the party in general, and a great contrast against the shitshow that the other side is putting on.
RustyNails
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I was surprised that Hillary did not attack Sanders like at all. Just full on praise for him. Sanders on the other hand attacked Clinton more than a few times. Whats going on.
Oh god. I cannot imagine Trump, Cruz and Jeb doing the same format. My ears will revolt.Only got to catch bits and pieces of it, but I liked what I saw. The format works pretty well for the Democratic side; the Republicans need their screaming matches, though.
NYCmetsfan
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/165998/americans-views-healthcare-quality-cost-coverage.aspxWhat are you saying about the majority of people having it good with regards to healthcare...
Otherwise I completely agree that being so progressive and upfront makes you a huge target. Maybe people will impress us all.
He's telling 70% of Americans youre wrong.
Basileus777
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Hillary wouldn't benefit from escalating the negativity in the race, not when she still has things well in hand.I was surprised that Hillary did not attack Sanders like at all. Just full on praise for him. Sanders on the other hand attacked Clinton more than a few times. Whats going on.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary Clinton's answer on reconstruction was insanely bad. Grant should have gone into debt to crush the Klan even further. The South needed to be beaten out and its legend destroyed like Germany was instead of being embraced.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I'm loving this segment of The Kelly File.
Only got to catch bits and pieces of it, but I liked what I saw. The format works pretty well for the Democratic side; the Republicans need their screaming matches, though.
I mean, they all do town halls regularly anyway, just not w/ the same audience or a moderator like this. Trump is even pretty good at it imo. Don't think I've seen a Cruz one since I literally can't stand hearing him talk
Roland_Gunner
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I was surprised that Hillary did not attack Sanders like at all. Just full on praise for him. Sanders on the other hand attacked Clinton more than a few times. Whats going on.
This is the traditional approach to Presidential campaigns. The candidate plays nice while surrogates do the dirty work. Only go directly negative when you're behind.
ugaboga232
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Very interesting, seems like the medical profession really needs to step it up because frankly way too many people are dying and suffering from treatable things. Thank you for the link. The hospital we train at (bellevue hospital) has a rather undeserved population that share a different side of equation but good to know people are happier than I thought.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I was surprised that Hillary did not attack Sanders like at all. Just full on praise for him. Sanders on the other hand attacked Clinton more than a few times. Whats going on.
Exactly what she should've done. Going negative on the insurgent only shows that you're nervous about them, and more specifically going negative has very rarely done well for Hillary. She did well in that regard.
Overall, I think both Sanders and Clinton did well. Clinton did tend to ramble, though, and for Sanders raising taxes is a tough sell. All in all, they did great. O'Malley relied too much on general stump speech responses to specific questions and therefore failed to really answer them, but if I had to guess I think his supporters will side with Sanders at the caucus based on his rhetoric.
NYCmetsfan
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Anybody who went to school more than 20 years ago was taught that.Hillary Clinton's answer on reconstruction was insanely bad. Grant should have gone into debt to crush the Klan even further. The South needed to be beaten out and its legend destroyed like Germany was instead of being embraced.
And let's not pretend all Nazis were tarred and feathered.
It was a bad answer.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary Clinton was very good in the CNN town hall. But her answer on the emails shows that she is still very vulnerable on the issue.
Dear God, what is Chris Cillizza putting in his meth these days?
Anyway, it was mostly good. Bernie was pretty funny tonight, lol.
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thepotatoman
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That article makes me feel a whole lot better about Nate. I didn't expect such a good explanation on where he went wrong. It makes a lot of sense that he might still be right that the establishment decides, while missing the fact that places like Breitbart is still technically part of the establishment.
And I'd agree that Trump's rise is a little weird, even with that explanation. I would still argue that if bad news doesn't result in a drop in polls, that suggests a lot of strength, and the way to predict any future Trumps is to look at that first and foremost, even though that's rather hard to do in objective data analysis.
There's a very similar concept in technical trading of stocks, where if you know what you're doing, but a stock does the exact opposite of what you expect in the short term, then it's probably a sign of what's happening in the long term. It's one of concepts that completes the connection between the data heavy technicals that cares only about the changes in price with the less quantifiable fundamentals driving those prices. (For the record, please don't conflate this with stocks rising at the announcement of bad news or dropping at good news, that's a concept of "buy the rumor sell the news", not a concept of relative strength)
Give us the rundown.I'm loving this segment of The Kelly File.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Give us the rundown.
Hillary getting indicted any day. Any day.
Rafa=FedKilla
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They only just mentioned him, they spent no less on their town hall fallout on emails. They brought seven different people to talk about it. And they kept advertising other stuff too....I am sure it involves Trump
NYCmetsfan
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I really don't want to think of what the Democratic party looks like on a local or state level with Sanders at the top of the ticket.
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