Coriolanus
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Yerp and yerp. Older interviews with him show that quite well. Man has very little in the way of a filter. He simply seldom needs to give a fuck, so he rarely does.
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Yerp and yerp. Older interviews with him show that quite well. Man has very little in the way of a filter. He simply seldom needs to give a fuck, so he rarely does.
Yep. It's not like with Gordon Ramsay where he's actually a really fucking good dude and he just has to play up the assholishness for American TV. Trump is Trump.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I honestly wonder how a Trump presidency would do. Would be very fascinating to watch for policy reasons. He goes so far to the edge of the spectrum on what he says that when it comes to issues, it is entirely unpredictable.
Sanders just said on MSNBC in an interview that institutional racism and a broken justice system will be a major priority for the Sanders administration.
Ok, I just wish he'd start pushing that instead of his constant economic agenda. Only because it's becoming stale at this point like a broken record. He needs to start expanding his talking points.
Ok, I just wish he'd start pushing that instead of his constant economic agenda. Only because it's becoming stale at this point like a broken record. He needs to start expanding his talking points.
Aaron Strife
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New Marquette University poll of Wisconsin
Daddy's home
Also there's R/D primary numbers there too for you plebs
Daddy's home
Also there's R/D primary numbers there too for you plebs
Four_Chamber
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I love Russ Feingold, counting down the days to seeing him back in the Senate.
Feingold and Keith Ellison are arguably my favorite politicians.
With the shitshow the GOP is undergoing, I hope the Democrats down-ballot do just as well.
Feingold and Keith Ellison are arguably my favorite politicians.
With the shitshow the GOP is undergoing, I hope the Democrats down-ballot do just as well.
Yay, more of this please!
Looks like he finally realized he needs to be talking about more than income inequality, let's hope he can keep it up.
Abinash117
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It is really interesting on how many Republicans are so self interested and to comparison to the ones that legitmently want to keep the party afloat. Too bad some of them are the ones that helped made this problem. I wonder how many of the minority Republicans feel. I figured some are in the GOP party in hopes of changing it, but that seems to be thrown out of the window.
His appeal to nationalistic and white supremacist groups are going to be a huge weakness. His defenses like " I have many good people that support me. They are passionate people. It's amazing. " isn't going to go far for many groups of people and any attempts at trying to be more level-headed probably won't be very effective.
Too late for that he should have started months ago and if h does speak about it I bet it will be just him tying the same stuff he has been saying, but with a hint of race issues( to a group of mostly white people).
Fenderputty
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This is hilarious and has nothing to do with his point.
New Marquette University poll of Wisconsin
Daddy's home
Also there's R/D primary numbers there too for you plebs
YEEEESSSSS. Not only is Russ a badass, but Ron Johnson is one of my least favorite Senators. He gives Cruz a run for his money in the asshole department.
Monday will tell us if it is too late.
And_Gignac
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It s so frustrating to see Sanders´ campaign being hijacked by absolute imbeciles.
Aaron Strife
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I'd never really heard Ellison speak before, and all I've heard is that he's supposedly kind of a dick in private company.
But damn, him speaking at the Bernie rally two nights ago! Man's got great charisma. I hope his religion doesn't prevent him from statewide runs, or even being placed on a national ticket.
I wish MN politics were better known for electing people like him or Franken than for Ventura or Bachmann.
Also hoping the DFL recaptures the Minnesota House, and that Angie Craig picks up the open seat in MN-2. I've set up a monthly $25 donation to her campaign.
That is fucked up dude.
Abinash117
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Jesus, why is Sanders is surrounding himself with dumbasses? Assuming this is true.
Maybe true, but we still need it to be said. Politicians are terrified of openly advocating policies that help the black community directly and specifically, and we all know why.
When has it not been ran by imbeciles? The reason this always happen is all Clinton campaign loyalists and Obama campaign loyalists went to Clinton. There was almost no one with any sort of national campaign success at all for Bernie to hire. His campaign is ran almost entirely by Dean/Kerry rejects.
you mean Mondale/Dean/Kerry/Bradley rejects
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Probably should not have put entertainment reasons, which is why I edited it, but I meant it more as in this unbelievable this is happening if he acts in any way, shape or form. I did not say it was funny though. It is fascinating though from a perspective on watching how it would shape the country. I did not say it would be a good thing.
Yellowtail
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Are the Sanders campaign trying to force a Culinary Union endorsement for Hillary here?
That's totally not misrepresentation. They just wore buttons that identified them as a part of the Culinary Union when they were not actually a part of the union. Totally not misrepresentation.
Solid Snake would be proud.
Lmao, perfection.
disastermouse
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How did Russ lose in the first place? I wasn't living in this state at the time.
Jeb's Right to Rise PAC put out an ad with Terri Shiavo in it about his strong believe in life. I wasn't paying attention to the news at that time but it seems like a fairly contentious thing.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/terri-schiavos-husband-blasts-jeb-for-ad-exploiting-his-dead-wife/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/terri-schiavos-husband-blasts-jeb-for-ad-exploiting-his-dead-wife/
theprodigy
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That...explains...everything...
the whole "alt-right" thing is probably where your Sanders/Trump people are clustered
Even when he's not running he can't help himself, I'm gonna miss him so damn much :lol
He will indeed be missed. I don't think we're ever going to get such a great duo as Obama and Biden.
Is this true? Hoooooly shit.
I still don't even understand why the alt-right internet types latched onto Sanders. The only thing I guess is because gamergate types are sexist and thus for any male who is running against a women.
I knew there was a reason I avoid that subreddit like the plague.
Christ above if that's true...
QuiteWhittle
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He was severely outspent by a wealthy opponent, partially exacerbated by his refusal to use SuperPACs, during a GOP wave.
They don't want to look like blatant racists/sexists and the current GOP gets laughed and scorned off of Reddit. So they wouldn't get anywhere that way.
Look at the language used vs BLM and Hilary.
The way Bernies Campaign kept speaking around minority issues and went back to his stump speech only encourage them. It fits the 'let's stop talking about racial inequality and sexism' that reddit wants so much.
Yeeeeah. This is par for the course, now that I think about it.
Four_Chamber
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I was 8 for Bush Jr., although when I was 8 I was living in New Zealand.
Aaron Strife
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Yup. He only lost by 4 points or so. If he had let the DSCC/SuperPACs spend on his behalf he would have won.
Which is kind of why I'm not big on Bernie's own refusal to use SuperPAC spending. Admire the principle, but it's political suicide.
Poodlestrike
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Sanders campaign is the establishment CONFIRMED.
Lets see
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NearEarthOrbit
I think Cheebo might be full of it.
Interfectum
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Do they? Which moderator?
Also, I thought this was funny:
% of users shared with KIA
/r/pcmasterrace 40%
/r/sandersforpresident 7%
Black Mamba
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Whoa, looks like a lot of conversation was spurred on by Campfire's misreading of my post.
Campfire, I am not an MMTer. I never said deficits do not matter (my personal belief is they probably do matter at some point under certain circumstances).
Here's what I said: "As a society, we should spend what we want and then use taxes to help with inequality. Taxes and government revenue are not a balance sheet."
That doesn't imply "deficits don't matter." Why? Because the result could also be a surplus. Or an actual balance. My argument is that targeting a situation where Revenues = Taxes (or G - T = 0) is stupid. We should provide what we need to provide as efficiently as possible, balance inequality with taxes. If something is still out of whack, we can always make further adjustments.
The only time I actually specifically referenced deficits is here: "Mind you, that doesn't bother me as I'm totally down with increased deficit spending right now."
- Implied I'm not always for increased deficit spending.
"Or, you know, we can just run a deficit like we've pretty much always done. - statement of fact.
The other instances related to arguments Bernie could make (or others).
So yeah, I believe we should be increasing our deficits right now (directly through spending). That's Keynesian if anything.
Now, on to everybody else:
Right, I admitted the $250k was too high and was just typing too quickly. But of course, we don't have to only raise income taxes. Uncap SS/Medicare taxes. Raise capital gains, financial transaction tax, carbon tax, etc. Just target certain areas that aren't regular folks.
The ACA mandate will be eventually what, 2.5%? So it's close, I suppose. But poor people don't have to pay that (and a lot don't get medicaid).
My issue is more optics than policy, here. bernie simply isn't going to convince people to vote for him by promising to raise everyone's taxes. So don't. Just raise it elsewhere and let it play out. You can always raise later when the fundamentals are better.
Like I said, I don't care about the revenue neutrality of a plan. And Bernie can simply lie about it with fuzzy math like the GOPers do regarding dynamic scoring.
No, he wouldn't have to at all. Just offer the plan, claim his taxes on the wealthy via X Y Z will cover it, and say the math works to be revenue neutral even when it doesn't. This is politics, not CBO training.
I didn't explain myself properly (typing quickly on phone then). It's not that I cared about that, is that in my rush I was simply using the current top tax bracket when if I stopped to think about it I'd have put the number much lower. More like it happened out of force of habit, like when you turn off a light in a room forgetting that someone elseis there because usually some isn't!
Campfire, I am not an MMTer. I never said deficits do not matter (my personal belief is they probably do matter at some point under certain circumstances).
Here's what I said: "As a society, we should spend what we want and then use taxes to help with inequality. Taxes and government revenue are not a balance sheet."
That doesn't imply "deficits don't matter." Why? Because the result could also be a surplus. Or an actual balance. My argument is that targeting a situation where Revenues = Taxes (or G - T = 0) is stupid. We should provide what we need to provide as efficiently as possible, balance inequality with taxes. If something is still out of whack, we can always make further adjustments.
The only time I actually specifically referenced deficits is here: "Mind you, that doesn't bother me as I'm totally down with increased deficit spending right now."
- Implied I'm not always for increased deficit spending.
"Or, you know, we can just run a deficit like we've pretty much always done. - statement of fact.
The other instances related to arguments Bernie could make (or others).
So yeah, I believe we should be increasing our deficits right now (directly through spending). That's Keynesian if anything.
Now, on to everybody else:
Right, I admitted the $250k was too high and was just typing too quickly. But of course, we don't have to only raise income taxes. Uncap SS/Medicare taxes. Raise capital gains, financial transaction tax, carbon tax, etc. Just target certain areas that aren't regular folks.
The ACA mandate will be eventually what, 2.5%? So it's close, I suppose. But poor people don't have to pay that (and a lot don't get medicaid).
My issue is more optics than policy, here. bernie simply isn't going to convince people to vote for him by promising to raise everyone's taxes. So don't. Just raise it elsewhere and let it play out. You can always raise later when the fundamentals are better.
Like I said, I don't care about the revenue neutrality of a plan. And Bernie can simply lie about it with fuzzy math like the GOPers do regarding dynamic scoring.
No, he wouldn't have to at all. Just offer the plan, claim his taxes on the wealthy via X Y Z will cover it, and say the math works to be revenue neutral even when it doesn't. This is politics, not CBO training.
I didn't explain myself properly (typing quickly on phone then). It's not that I cared about that, is that in my rush I was simply using the current top tax bracket when if I stopped to think about it I'd have put the number much lower. More like it happened out of force of habit, like when you turn off a light in a room forgetting that someone elseis there because usually some isn't!
theprodigy
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....pcmasterrace? where do you even view those stats
QuiteWhittle
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Also more good news.
Walker approval:
Should Walker run for a third term:
Dems will still drop the ball in 2018, though.
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