Its true you have better hair than I do, Trump said matter-of-factly. But I get more pussy than you do. Click.
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Its true you have better hair than I do, Trump said matter-of-factly. But I get more pussy than you do. Click.
off to a great start
ugaboga232
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It's time for Bernie to take off the weighted clothing/spirit cuffs/go bankai/final form then.
Trump! With the Exclamation!
I read that first line and was like...yeah, this is going to be schadenfreude delicious. I am most definitely enjoying the GOP reaping what they have sown the last 20 years or so.
ugaboga232
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https://theintercept.com/2016/01/28...ture-super-pac-100-funded-by-rich-white-guys/
Im shocked, shocked (not that shocked).
Im shocked, shocked (not that shocked).
User 463088
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Bernie's campaign also used AARP's logo and their Take a Stand Campaign in a mailer without permission
Hahaha, on NBC Nightly News, they said Trump's campaign said they'd debate Cruz one-on-one if Cruz gets a judgement saying he's eligible for the Presidency.
Hahaha, on NBC Nightly News, they said Trump's campaign said they'd debate Cruz one-on-one if Cruz gets a judgement saying he's eligible for the Presidency.
Rafa=FedKilla
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FoxNews pre show talking like Trump might still show up. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Captain Pants
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I had a good talk with my dad today about how disheartening Trump's campaign is. Dad is a very conservative Catholic, and he says he's going to vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is if Trump wins the nomination. It's anecdotal, but I do wonder how many disgruntled Republicans will either switch sides or stay home in November.
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Bernie Sanders is Democrat's Top Beneficiary of Outside Spending, Like it or Not
So, #NotAllPACS then.
So, #NotAllPACS then.
Black Mamba
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No worries. I just wanted to make that clarification. I'm very mainstream in my economics.
And I can see how what I said can come up that way, especially given how much MMT discussion can go on here (like most, it probably is on the right track with certain ideas that will eventually be incorporated into the mainstream).
I just get annoyed by how much people look at gov't spending like a household check book balancing act when it's not so sometimes my responses can seem to be more flippant towards that thinking.
Trump truly is a master class troll. Holy shit, even I didn't see this angle. Fucking hell.
ugaboga232
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He has asked them to desist I think and he definitely doesn't coordinate.
Yeah, I don't hold it against Sanders or his campaign for getting beneficiary outside spending.
I do hold this against them though:
I do hold this against them though:
vicissitudes
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I talked with a few very conservative friends and it went like this:
"If it's Trump versus Hillary, I'd rather vote for Hillary."
"And if it's Trump versus Bernie?"
".....I'm staying home."
User 463088
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Well, technically no one coordinates...wink wink nudge nudge. (And if you believe that, then I have a really nice bridge to sell you.)
He actually didn't tell them to stop, Weaver kinda sorta did, though.
Bernie Sanders Doesn't Like Super PACs, But He Won't Speak Out Against This One
I don't have a problem with the nurse's union running ads. I just enjoy pointing out double standards when I see them. I'm sure Priorities Action USA is only doing "what they think is appropriate."
Oh, and Bernie's mental gymnastics on Nightly News tonight regarding the ad he released was amazing. The ad isn't negative because it didn't have a picture of Hillary nor mention her directly by name.
ugaboga232
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Well the point is everyone else is wink wink nudge nudging and bernie isn't. Also his definition of negative is more character based, would be very difficult to run without commenting on other people's policy choices, no?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
True as long as those policy positions are represented accurately.
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OH GOD YES.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
It's funny, my dad likes Bernie better, and is convinced that Obama is further left than Sanders. I didn't want to get into how backwards he had all of that. I don't think he'd admit it to himself, but he's definitely Diet Racist and maybe a little more openly sexist. He said he vote for Hillary, but he doesn't trust her.
ugaboga232
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ugaboga232
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They are or will be soon? They just never turn out.
Black Mamba
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So many of you guys and gals have racist and bigoted parents. Maybe not very overtly, but to some extent.
I'm glad y'all worked around that. Geez. I'm so thankful I didn't grow up in such a household. I have a really well off cousin who doesn't like Obama because their taxes were raised, but that's a rational position. Race plays no factor.
I'm glad y'all worked around that. Geez. I'm so thankful I didn't grow up in such a household. I have a really well off cousin who doesn't like Obama because their taxes were raised, but that's a rational position. Race plays no factor.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
My dad was, my mom less so.
Being gay really helped me see people for more then what they look like.
Captain Pants
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It's weird with my dad. He's got all kinds of awful opinions about minorities as a whole, mainly that "they all want free stuff from the government" while ignoring that he knows, likes and works with minorities on a regular basis, including people from Mexico that are probably not here legally. I think in his heart, he's not a racist, he was just raised by one. My grandpa was a piece of work.
User 463088
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On Reddit, maybe.
It's something that's interesting to me too. I grew up in a house where my dad, by all rights, should have been a big old homophobic, sexist bigot. He was born in the 20s. He grew up in a rural area. Yet, he was probably the least racist person I've ever met. In the 40s, he worked with an African American guy at a steel mill. He was in Ohio from Alabama trying to get enough money to move his family north. My dad and his first wife let him stay with them for months. This actually got the attention of some people. My dad almost lost his job and there were threats made against them.
So, I kinda lucked out. I was brainwashed as a liberal from an early age.
thezerofire
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Yep. Definitely not overtly mostly, but I have heard my dad drop the "model minority" line a few times. It's not an easy thing to come to terms with
Population =/= voting demographics. Baby Boomers will easily outnumber Millenials in this election, not even close.
User 463088
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That was me being sarcastic. Sorry if I made it look like you said that. It was a joke. I'll edit it to make sure it's clear.
Hah, already best you
Actually when you look into the post-materialism happening in Europe (and quickly the US.) you see that growing generations are choosing a different approach to politics entirely. The rise of "far" left political parties re-enforces that. Slowly but surely we're asking for a new way to govern ourselves that better reflects equilibrium between man and nature.
Anybody interested should check out the work Ronald Inglehardt has been doing since the 70's about it.
Quoting so I look this up when I'm sober.
I think the only Republican candidate who would prompt a clear "time for change" stance from the Republican base is Cruz. HE is the embodiment of the "not conservative enough last time" double down, and him being the Republican candidate only to get trounced in the general might prompt some "we went too far" introspection.
Trump is problematic in terms of him being the nominee leaves too many excuses for why he might lose the general. For example, not "Christian" enough, no political experience, he is a billionaire the common man can't relate to, etc. There would be enough questions that I could see them going back to the old strategy rather than forward to a new (and more moderate) one.
Rubio becoming the nominee then losing the general still leaves open the "should have gone more conservative with Cruz" line of thinking, especially given Clinton vs Rubio would probably end up relatively close (closer than Clinton vs either of Trump or Cruz anyway).
Regardless of who ends up being the nominee, my expectation is to see some sort of group splinter off the Republicans in some doomed in the short term way. Either the disgruntled Tea Party crowd will break away to do their own thing, or the frustrated "libertarian" crowd will. As a result, I'm not sure the Republican party can recover in time to make a strong showing in 2020.
shinra-bansho
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So it's already been commented on, and I may be guilty of it myself at times #hypocrite, but could we cool it a bit on the "omg this person in this other thread is so dumb I must post it here where I can call them dumb and they won't see it" posts.
The degree of animosity is really reaching stupid levels.
The degree of animosity is really reaching stupid levels.
Poodlestrike
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My dad was... idk if he was a racist. One hell of an islamaphobe, not great on lgbt stuff, and economically pretty far right. One of those "I'm an independent because I've never registered as a Republican" types.
My mom's got some latent issues but is much much much better.
Coriolanus
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Thats kinda clever, tbh. "Sure, we'll do it...if you agree to three more."
Im of the opinion that what facilitates introspection is a massive loss. Thus, if either Cruz or Trump go up and get absolutely rekt, whatever rethoric they were pushing will become poisonous, forcing a reorientation.
Obviously, this stance also implies that if they lose by a very small margin, you're stuck with the narrative for the next cycle.
Racially... insensitive mother, homophobic father, sexist brother. Democrat, Republican, and "I see through the system, maaaan", respectively.
It's a cornucopia of awfulness.
Captain Pants
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I don't know why I didn't touch on my mom when talking about racist parents. She's so active in the Pro-Life movement. I think I've mentioned before that she's the regional director for a crisis pregnancy center. Because of this, I think she has this idea that any minority woman in the inner city is either supporting her kids on welfare, or making monthly trips to PP to get an abortion. It's really hard to talk politics with her. In her own way, she's a sweet person who actually does spend most of her free time helping single mothers instead of protesting abortion clinics, but she's just soooooo invested in this one issue that it's the only lens by which she can view politics. Dad is pretty moderate in comparison. I think she'd be a Cruz supporter, and I know dad is a Kasich guy.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Wait, what??????????
So much for not being a politician. What a bullshit statement.
Edit: Segment on Maddow for the debates
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/one-more-democratic-primary-debate-maybe-609555011560
Retromelon
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Deport ted
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Coriolanus
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That fell by the wayside the moment he joined the dems to run for prez. Now he just says he's not a "career" politician, which he then goes on to qualify as RAH RAH FIGHT THE POWER.
Because yknow, people would immediately ask "but havent you been in congress for a quarter of a century?"
shinra-bansho
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It's a weird release to put out, as the Clinton campaign has already called this bluff so to speak and said they're ready and willing to discuss scheduling debates in April and May.
A segue into turnout and registration, I think someone looked at it before already but thought I'd take a gander at IA voter registration. I may be reading it wrong.
Between Oct and the start of Jan 2008, Dem registrations increased by just over 7.5K and independent registrations by about 8.5K. Obama effect?
Between Oct and Jan this cycle, Dem registrations are basically flat (-39) and independents up by 8.8K. Sanders effect? Trump effect?
(And yeah, I'm aware you can register on the day.)
There's breakdown by county, but I don't know whether one is meant to register where they intend to vote, or based on their residential address etc. etc. so I didn't know if it was worth looking at specific counties e.g. those around university towns.
A segue into turnout and registration, I think someone looked at it before already but thought I'd take a gander at IA voter registration. I may be reading it wrong.
Between Oct and the start of Jan 2008, Dem registrations increased by just over 7.5K and independent registrations by about 8.5K. Obama effect?
Between Oct and Jan this cycle, Dem registrations are basically flat (-39) and independents up by 8.8K. Sanders effect? Trump effect?
(And yeah, I'm aware you can register on the day.)
There's breakdown by county, but I don't know whether one is meant to register where they intend to vote, or based on their residential address etc. etc. so I didn't know if it was worth looking at specific counties e.g. those around university towns.
If you are a CA resident but in school in IA you get to vote twice?
Wait, what??????????
Bernie's campaign/supporters have decided that the unsactioned debate is a Clinton conspiracy (in league with the DNC) and so now they are insisting that they will only participate in DNC debates, despite their hatred of the DNC, with specific conditions
wish I was kidding: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...aster-Stroke-in-asking-for-SANCTIONED-debates
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