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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print
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I pretty much called it the moment she said that at the debate OT. It's going to be a nice GOP attack ad for sure. The fuq was she thinking? Yeah Sanders went light on her on both where he should and where he shouldn't have.
BertramCooper
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The only way that could make an effective attack ad for Republicans is if Trump wins the nomination.
Do you really expect someone like Rubio or Bush to call out Clinton for being lax on regulating Wall Street when they're very much in favor of loose regulation of the financial sector?
Exactly my thoughts as well. Republicans attack democrats for being anti-capitalist. For not supporting businesses enough and thus harming the economy. Like you said, other than Trump.
They cany attack her for being exactly what they typically attack Democrats for not being.
It was a dumb comment, but I can't see how a Republican can use it against her.
NYCmetsfan
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Eh. I trip up over names all the time that aren't familiar to me.
BertramCooper
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Pretty good piece from Politico this morning on the current state of the Rubio campaign.
Dude has a pretty steep hill to climb if he wants the nomination.
Sounds like he needs an organizational shakeup. Even if he starts getting a lot of money from donors fleeing Bush, the infrastructure of his campaign seems pretty unsound.
Dude has a pretty steep hill to climb if he wants the nomination.
Sounds like he needs an organizational shakeup. Even if he starts getting a lot of money from donors fleeing Bush, the infrastructure of his campaign seems pretty unsound.
Precisely the point. He couldn't be bothered to make it familiar to him.
Amazing. That laugh.
BertramCooper
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Rubio seems like he would be a truly terrible president.
And not just because he has shitty political views that I disagree with. He just seems to be a really inept person in general that probably couldn't manage an administration with any sort of competence.
And not just because he has shitty political views that I disagree with. He just seems to be a really inept person in general that probably couldn't manage an administration with any sort of competence.
Is any of them building anything beyond the two states compared to the Democrats?
RustyNails
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Anyone have link to the next question from the black dude?
VendettaRed07
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Well I mean, sure everyone does. But he isn't a school teacher calling attendance on the first day of class.. These people are dead and he's laughing
You think they care? Lol...it's an attack ad....hypocrisy and double-standards are in the cards. Not to mention, attack ads are usually full of deceptive, out of context information that preys on low information voters. Clinton has the Wall Street stigma. They could care less about the overwhelming number of voters that will be unmoved....they care about the ones that will ONLY.
There is no moral compass to attack ads.
Coriolanus
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When the customer comes to your store, you try to close the sale then and there. Why in blazes would you miss that opportunity?
Can't even remotely see how it would be communism either.
It wont be the candidate calling her out. It'll be the SuperPACs. Over and over again.
QuiteWhittle
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I think Rubio was campaigning for VP or national attention for the 2018 Florida Governor's seat and being christened as the establishment's last hope caught him off guard.
Oh, governor. That makes sense. I don't feel bad for him anymore. He can stay relevant for another year.
That definitely seems to be the case.
I think that part of the Trump fantasy is that he's a politician you don't have to give money to.
Manmademan
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I told y'all, it's going to be Cruz
They are. Average donation for Trump is $50. He's refusing PAC donations, I guess. Not sure how that works.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Okay, I feel fine with Hillary as the next president, but I do have to say that some of the things she said during the debate really irritated me.
Lie about Snowden.
Lie about prior position on TPP.
Ridiculous claim about how we need more marijuana studies.
Defending U.S. intervention into Libya.
These things will probably help her in the general and she'll never be attacked for these things because we (the left) don't want to eat our own and these are statements that the right largely likes.... But it was still irritating to watch.
Lie about Snowden.
Lie about prior position on TPP.
Ridiculous claim about how we need more marijuana studies.
Defending U.S. intervention into Libya.
These things will probably help her in the general and she'll never be attacked for these things because we (the left) don't want to eat our own and these are statements that the right largely likes.... But it was still irritating to watch.
Roland_Gunner
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I think its more likely that Rubio just doesn't have the infrastructure in place to run a massive Presidential campaign or the skill set to build one. He's had one state-wide campaign and may not have won that if it wasn't for a historic Republican wave. People discount how hard it is to build a national system because Obama did it so well easy but even HRC is struggling to duplicate what OFA did.
Lawrence Lessig announces that he won't resign after all.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/referendum-presidency-larry-lessig/411013/
This is, actually, a little better than the original magical president theory, although Lessig is still basically the Donald Trump of the Democratic party.
the atlantic said:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/referendum-presidency-larry-lessig/411013/
This is, actually, a little better than the original magical president theory, although Lessig is still basically the Donald Trump of the Democratic party.
Third Strike
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I don't see why she's playing it safe with marijuana. If anything, saying you're for legalization could help with turnout among young voters.
Roland_Gunner
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Maybe HRC could have answered it better but I think there are legitimate concerns with how legalization has been implemented so far. Especially with how easy it is for minors to get consumables. My friends in Colorado are really worried that the middle class parents are going to turn against legal pot because of all the stories it.
good, that was the worst thought out part of his campaign
BertramCooper
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This makes no sense.
Republicans won't paint her as being lax on Wall Street because that's exactly what they want from a president.
They'll try to do the opposite: paint her as an over-regulating, job-killing Democrat.
NYCmetsfan
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Jim Webb gonna drop out of the race to endorse Hillary now.
Lucky Forward
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He's thinking of Laura Bush.
NYCmetsfan
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Way to deflect. Never forget Vince Foster
I guess the difference being Hillary raised $28 million, 93% below $100. I guess I figured more of these fired up Trump supporters would be trying to throw money his way.
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thepotatoman
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Jeb Bush campaign makes $7.8 million ad buy for Janurary and February.
It's going to be a really long time before the field shrinks significantly, isn't it?
It's going to be a really long time before the field shrinks significantly, isn't it?
JEB! was always going to try and hold out until the actual voting, I'm not so sure about the rest of them though.
A number of people will be disqualified from the Undercard debate for polling below 1%. Probably time for them to wrap it up.
PhoenixDark
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No but I gotta say based on his bored behavior (and race) I can't help but think he's a planted questioner. My friend worked on Ron Paul's 2008 campaign and said every planted questioner they used would be bored as fuck since he or she had to stay at the rally the entire time, whereas actual supporters would be excited or awake regardless of age.
I'm just thankful that Jeb's going to be around for a while, eating into Rubio's efforts. If this is a marathon that Rubio is trying to win, Jeb is the set of ten-pound ankle weights that's slowing him down.
(and vicey-versey)
"Hillary Clinton helped Barack Hussein Obama crash the global economy so her Wall Street fatcat backers could make trillions shorting the market. But CANDIDATE NAME HERE is ready to fight to get Washington regulators off the back of job creators and hardworking small business owners, and build a new prosperity for America."
C'mon, are we forgetting Karl Rove already? They can totally take two completely contradictory positions at the same time and sell it with a straight face. They've done it plenty of times.
C'mon, are we forgetting Karl Rove already? They can totally take two completely contradictory positions at the same time and sell it with a straight face. They've done it plenty of times.
Jeb: "Did you remember your line?"
Avon Barksdale
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I saw someone post that Crowder shit on my timeline. Unfriended his ass. I never talked to him anyways.
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I never mean it as a competition, but every time I see stuff like this I just link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_embassy_bombing
Where so many people died because Reagan told marines to not load their guns in known hostile territory. It's not even conspiracy. The order is documented, and Reagan's own administration said he was at fault.
and they never seem to post about Benghazi again.
NYCmetsfan
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Are you talking about the barracks bombing? That's different than the embassy
They were also unarmed at the embassy. The barracks was even worse and came after the embassy.
Manmademan
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trump's poll numbers are at least triple what rubio's are, and bush is competing for donors from rubio's home state. I'm not sure thats the fairest of comparisons.
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