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[bodyofanamerican]

It's like he wasn't around for the last 6.5 years. Can't believe he's talking seriously about compromise, and being naive about negotiating with the GOP.

 

[Diablos]

I'm not saying she's going to jail, but I have insider sources (very inside).

We'll trust you, you're an expert.

Man, Walker and the republicans are doing some bullshit in Wisconsin right now.

I wonder when they'll gerrymander the electoral vote?

 

[Konka]

I'm not saying she's 100 percent going to jail, but I have insider sources (very inside).

Riiiiiiiiight.

 

[Iolo]

Could Biden change his mind before the voting starts? We interview 4 insider experts, next.

 

[HylianTom]

This turn of events has to indicate that Biden is extremely confident that Hillary is going to kill it tomorrow.

 

[Yellowtail]

Watch Trey Gowdy finally pull out that smoking gun Vince Foster email on Hillary tomorrow.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Rachel Maddow: Hillary Clinton is going to steamroll into this nomination.

 

[Diablos]

This turn of events has to indicate that Biden is extremely confident that Hillary is going to kill it tomorrow.

Even from a jail cell. I bet she's trying to figure out how to e-mail from it as we speak.

 

[benjipwns]

that was weird as fuck

 

[Aaron Strife]

Man, Walker and the republicans are doing some bullshit in Wisconsin right now.

Limiting investigations? Hm I wonder why that would be.

I wonder when they'll gerrymander the electoral vote?

Probably never. Shit would backfire on them and I don't think the GOP representatives would like having their districts targeted individually. Paul Ryan is only in an R+3 district.

 

[Diablos]

Limiting investigations? Hm I wonder why that would be.


Probably never. Shit would backfire on them and I don't think the GOP representatives would like having their districts targeted individually. Paul Ryan is only in an R+3 district.

Eh. It's a game of where you wanna win and lose. In the state where a few seats might be in play for once, or for the Presidency when you already control Congress. If the GOP makes a decision nationally to gerrymander, believe me, it will pay off, even if they lose some seats in the process (they'll still have their majority in Congress).

 

[benjipwns]

Man, Walker and the republicans are doing some bullshit in Wisconsin right now.

Looking into the statute, I'm not sure scrapping the John Doe thing is a bad thing, even they're only doing it because it was used against them.

Also, another instance of enshrining the two parties into law.

 

[HylianTom]

A peek-in to the Louisiana race from a GOP-leaning pollster:

This might really happen! #excited

 

[Aaron Strife]

Eh. It's a game of where you wanna win and lose. In the state where a few seats might be in play for once, or for the Presidency when you already control Congress. If the GOP makes a decision nationally to gerrymander, believe me, it will pay off, even if they lose some seats in the process (they'll still have their majority in Congress).

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I think the time has long passed for the GOP to employ any major strategy to rig the electoral college vote.

They certainly won't do it in Ohio or Florida. The Republican will need every EV he can get from those states, why forfeit a significant chunk of them (especially Florida with fair maps)?

Nevada is probably too small that it's not worth pursuing, they'd splinter off 1 or 2 EVs at most. Wisconsin and Michigan are the only ones worth worrying about and I don't think Snyder or Walker want to die on that hill.

It's dead, Jim. You kept saying this would happen in Pennsylvania and it didn't.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

lol biden hype. I called this. Can they stop polling him?

 

[Chichikov]

First Worm, and now The Dream is dead.

I'm not saying she's 100 percent going to jail, but I have insider sources (very inside).

I never do avatar or ban bets, but I'm so certain there's no way in hell she's going to jail I'll take any term you want. Actually, I wouldn't take a ban bet, fuck getting people banned.

If this was IRL I would've taken any odds you want and put money on that.

 

[Diablos]

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I think the time has long passed for the GOP to employ any major strategy to rig the electoral college vote.

They certainly won't do it in Ohio or Florida. The Republican will need every EV he can get from those states, why forfeit a significant chunk of them (especially Florida with fair maps)?

Nevada is probably too small that it's not worth pursuing, they'd splinter off 1 or 2 EVs at most. Wisconsin and Michigan are the only ones worth worrying about and I don't think Snyder or Walker want to die on that hill.

It's dead, Jim. You kept saying this would happen in Pennsylvania and it didn't.

It ALMOST did. Corbett's laziness/incompetence as Governor prevented him from listening to the children in his legislature.

Wolf assures it won't happen here -- but there's plenty of states that can still take it up.

 

[NeoXChaos]

lol biden hype. I called this. Can they stop polling him?

I called it first.

PD got it wrong like always.

 

[PantherLotus]

I seriously think the last couple days of Biden quotes were a thought bubble and that thought bubble burst on Biden. Otherwise he would've just announced 48 hours ago and wouldn't have tried the Cheney line. Goofball.

 

[kingkitty]

I never do avatar or ban bets, but I'm so certain there's no way in hell she's going to jail I'll take any term you want. Actually, I wouldn't take a ban bet, fuck getting people banned.

If this was IRL I would've taken any odds you want and put money on that.

okay, if Hillary goes to jail, you have to co-sign a loan for me.

if Hillary doesn't go to jail, I'll send you 20 cents worth of Bitcoin.

 

[dramatis]

I seriously think the last couple days of Biden quotes were a thought bubble and that thought bubble burst on Biden. Otherwise he would've just announced 48 hours ago and wouldn't have tried the Cheney line. Goofball.

I think the last couple of days of Biden quotes were some high tier trolling.

 

[Coriolanus]

Probably never. Shit would backfire on them and I don't think the GOP representatives would like having their districts targeted individually. Paul Ryan is only in an R+3 district.

Where is this strange Republican party that gives a fuck about the risk of backfires?

 

[RustyNails]

A peek-in to the Louisiana race from a GOP-leaning pollster:


This might really happen! #excited

But I doubt anyone would get 50.1%, leading to a runoff. Which would mean Bel Edwards would lose

 

[Roland_Gunner]

It ALMOST did. Corbett's laziness/incompetence as Governor prevented him from listening to the children in his legislature.

Wolf assures it won't happen here -- but there's plenty of states that can still take it up.

If it didn't happen in 2010 or earlier this year its not going to happen. GOP lead states have done all kinds of terrible stuff but its clear they aren't going to pull the trigger on changing how electoral votes are allocated.

 

[Poodlestrike]

okay, if Hillary goes to jail, you have to co-sign a loan for me.

if Hillary doesn't go to jail, I'll send you 20 cents worth of Bitcoin.

I would get in on this, Chik; that Bitcoin will be worth at least 400 bucks the next day (and 10 cents the day after that).

 

[Makai]

I would bet my votes in the South Carolina primaries.

Spoiler

Probably a federal crime

 

[Yellowtail]

I think the last couple of days of Biden quotes were some high tier trolling.

I think they were his frustrations boiling over. He's always wanted to be President, he still wants to be President, but it's clear that there isn't a viable path. The Clinton campaign has been very aggressive this past month in boxing him out behind the scenes.

I do feel for him. It's gotta hurt to be passed over as the sitting VP while everyone coalesced around Clinton. And then with all the advantages she had to watch her fuck up in such a classic Clintonian way over the summer. He's still Plan B though.

 

[Chichikov]

okay, if Hillary goes to jail, you have to co-sign a loan for me.

if Hillary doesn't go to jail, I'll send you 20 cents worth of Bitcoin.

If Chichikov ever enters an avatar bet give him Metroid Prime

Like I give a fuck, avatars off all the way.

p.s.
Speaking of video games, I would like to reiterate that it's a fine hobby for normative adults to enjoy and there's nothing to be ashamed of it.

 

[HylianTom]

But I doubt anyone would get 50.1%, leading to a runoff. Which would mean Bel Edwards would lose

I don't know.. Vitter's name is dirt right now, and polling is now consistent in showing him losing to Edwards.

I've fought to not grab onto hope, but this time..

 

[NeoXChaos]

I think they were his frustrations boiling over. He's always wanted to be President, he still wants to be President, but it's clear that there isn't a viable path. The Clinton campaign has been very aggressive this past month in boxing him out behind the scenes.

I do feel for him. It's gotta hurt to be passed over as the sitting VP while everyone coalesced around Clinton. And then with all the advantages she had to watch her fuck up in such a classic Clintonian way over the summer. He's still Plan B though.

Yeah but it was to be expected. Hillary was going to be it until Obama came along. The party wanted Obama and now Clinton over him. Sucks to be eclipsed by two historic candidacies. His time passed years ago.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

I don't know.. Vitter's name is dirt right now, and polling is now consistent in showing him losing to Edwards.

I've fought to not grab onto hope, but this time..

Its a crazy thought but Edwards really needs Vitter to get 2nd. If one of the other candidates blows past him then its much harder to see Edwards get the governorship.

 

[teiresias]

I think they were his frustrations boiling over. He's always wanted to be President, he still wants to be President, but it's clear that there isn't a viable path. The Clinton campaign has been very aggressive this past month in boxing him out behind the scenes.

I do feel for him. It's gotta hurt to be passed over as the sitting VP while everyone coalesced around Clinton. And then with all the advantages she had to watch her fuck up in such a classic Clintonian way over the summer. He's still Plan B though.

I mean, let's not forget the fact that he's campaigned and lost the nomination numerous times and hasn't made it. It's not like he's some brilliant Presidential candidate that is unfortunately just losing his one shot due to historic candidates.

 

[pigeon]

I think the last couple of days of Biden quotes were some high tier trolling.

I'm wondering if it was message testing. Biden can get a ton of free publicity before he runs by tweeting stuff out and leaking it. Then he can see whether people are warm to the idea of running to the right of Hilary or not, and if not he can just bail, as he did.

 

[Muzy72]

A peek-in to the Louisiana race from a GOP-leaning pollster:


This might really happen! #excited

Can Edwards really beat Vitter in a runoff though? :/

 

[HylianTom]

Its a crazy thought but Edwards really needs Vitter to get 2nd. If one of the other candidates blows past him then its much harder to see Edwards get the governorship.

That's why I was fretting over the timing of the whole "Vitter asked his hooker to get an abortion" story. He's the one guy whom I think Edwards can beat. I was skeptical at first, but now all pollsters, regardless of lean, are showing the same favorable trends.

This might be Jindal's parting gift to us..

 

[RustyNails]

That's why I was fretting over the timing of the whole "Vitter asked his hooker to get an abortion" story. He's the one guy whom I think Edwards can beat. I was skeptical at first, but now all pollsters, regardless of lean, are showing the same favorable trends.

This might be Jindal's parting gift to us..

I was listening to NPR about the race, and the Republicans basically said "he made a mistake, and he asked forgiveness. It's between him and jesus". Granted this was before the abortion story broke, but I dont see how the voters would ditch him if jesus forgives.

With that being said, the last election was a referendum on Obama so obviously he won. This time, it's becoming a referendum on Vitter and all the skeletons living in his closet. Anything could happen.

 

[thepotatoman]

Thank god the Biden fiasco is finally over. I have no idea what the point of all that was.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

As if I needed more proof Ed Henry sucks. I'd love to hear him explain his source on this one.

 

[ivysaur12]

Welcome to The Blue Wall, New Hampshire.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...eck-dems-lead-presidential-matches-in-nh.html

The Presidential numbers bode well for Hassan on that front. Hillary Clinton leads 8 out of 9 Republicans in hypothetical general election contests in the state. The exception is John Kasich- he achieves a tie with Clinton at 44%. Chris Christie comes close to Clinton as well, trailing 45/44. But beyond that Clinton leads the rest of the GOP throng by anywhere from 4 to 16 points. She's up 4 on Jeb Bush (45/41) and Carly Fiorina (46/42), 6 on Ben Carson (48/42), Marco Rubio (48/42 also), and Donald Trump (47/41), 13 on Ted Cruz (50/37), and 16 on Mike Huckabee (51/35).

 

[eBay Huckster]

today's "holy shit is OT actually serious" moment: people actually advocating for accelerationism in the Biden thread

 

[PantherLotus]

I mean, let's not forget the fact that he's campaigned and lost the nomination numerous times and hasn't made it. It's not like he's some brilliant Presidential candidate that is unfortunately just losing his one shot due to historic candidates.

This is clearly true and revisionism doesn't help his case.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Welcome to The Blue Wall, New Hampshire.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...eck-dems-lead-presidential-matches-in-nh.html

Yup. Democrats start out with 257 as a baseline.

One Virginia or one Iowa+Colorado away from a win.

 

[teiresias]

today's "holy shit is OT actually serious" moment: people actually advocating for accelerationism in the Biden thread

I've never even heard this term "accelerationism" before. Basically, full steam ahead to third-world to "teach everyone a lesson"?

 

[Aaron Strife]

I've never even heard this term "accelerationism" before. Basically, full steam ahead to third-world to "teach everyone a lesson"?

Yeah all we have to do is give Republicans full reins for a couple of years, and then everyone will realize how great the Democrats are! How could this possibly lead to disappointment among hard liberals

 

[ivysaur12]

Yup. Democrats start out with 257 as a baseline.

One Virginia or one Iowa+Colorado away from a win.

Yeah, I just did the map. Yeesh. That's tough for any Republican.

Also, this is promising:

Right now it looks like Democrats are ahead in New Hampshire by about 5 points, similar to Barack Obama's margin of victory in the state in 2012. The Senate race is tight but if those Presidential numbers hold it's hard to imagine a world where a popular Governor like Hassan runs 5 points or more behind the top of the ticket.

 

[Gotchaye]

I've never even heard this term "accelerationism" before. Basically, full steam ahead to third-world to "teach everyone a lesson"?

I'm not familiar with the term either, but this is exactly what several conservatives I know have been pinning all their hopes on since around when Obama got elected. It hasn't worked yet.

 

[NeoXChaos]

accelerationism is the idea that either the prevailing system of capitalism, or certain technosocial processes that have historically characterised it, should be expanded, repurposed or accelerated in order to generate radical social change. Some contemporary accelerationist philosophy takes as its starting point the Deleuzo-Guattarian theory of deterritorialisation, aiming to identify, deepen, and radicalise the forces of deterritorialisation with a view to overcoming the countervailing tendencies that suppress the possibility of far-reaching social transformation.[1] Accelerationism may also refer more broadly, and usually pejoratively, to support for the deepening of capitalism in the belief that this will hasten its self-destructive tendencies and ultimately eventuate its collapse.[2][3]

Professedly accelerationist theory has been divided into mutually contradictory left-wing and right-wing variants, with "left-accelerationism" attempting to press "the process of technological evolution" beyond the constrictive horizon of capitalism, for example by repurposing modern technology to socially beneficial and emancipatory ends, and "right-accelerationism" supporting the indefinite intensification of capitalism itself, possibly in order to bring about a technological singularity.[4][5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

 

[HylianTom]

I'm not familiar with the term either, but this is exactly what several conservatives I know have been pinning all their hopes on since around when Obama got elected. It hasn't worked yet.

It's gotta gnaw at them a bit that things haven't collapsed yet. MREs stashed-away, along with their cases of .22LR ammo and seed collections..

 

[RustyNails]

Democrats on the Benghazi committee release Cheryl Mill's testimony, Gowdy's spokesman accuses them of making this about Hillary and not the four Americans

Jamal Ware, a spokesman for Gowdy, said release of the transcript showed that, "once again, Democrats on the Select Committee demonstrate that for them, this is all about Hillary Clinton — and not about the four brave Americans who were killed by terrorists in Benghazi."

What...I mean, what? This is blatant misinformation. I woupdnt be surprised if morons start calling Limbaugh's show and accuse democrats of politicizing the deaths and using the committee to boost her polling numbers.

 

[Black Mamba]

Finally, the polls can remove Biden's name.

The Bernie supporters in these threads are exactly like the Ron Paul supporters were.

Such passion put into false hope. Sigh.