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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print

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Oblivion

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LOL. The asskicking that Republicans got at the Benghazi Witch Trial was so bad that Gowdy says they won't be doing any more public hearings.
 
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Poodlestrike

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Makai said:
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Is... is this real?

It's perfect.
 
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Sianos

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Oblivion said:
LOL. The asskicking that Republicans got at the Benghazi Witch Trial was so bad that Gowdy says they won't be doing any more public hearings.
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hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Excellent, going to need a direct quote on this so I can gesture towards it the next time someone brings up Benghazi!! to attack Hillary.
 
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RastaMentality

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NSQuote said:
hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Excellent, going to need a direct quote on this so I can gesture towards it the next time someone brings up Benghazi!! to attack Hillary.
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Gowdy:
“I can just tell you, in the private interviews, there is never any of what you saw Thursday. It is one hour on the Republican side, one hour on the Democrat side, which is why you’re going to see the next two dozen interviews done privately,” he said.

“The private ones always produce better results.”
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Oblivion

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NSQuote said:
hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Excellent, going to need a direct quote on this so I can gesture towards it the next time someone brings up Benghazi!! to attack Hillary.
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Gowdy told host Chuck Todd that Hillary Clinton requested the “voluntary interview” be public, which he noted was “well within her rights,” but added that there is never “any of what you saw Thursday” in closed-door hearings. “It is one hour on the Republican side, one hour on the Democrat side, which is why you’re going to see the next two dozen interviews done privately,” Gowdy said. “The private ones always produce better results.”
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/gowd...i-interviews-will-now-be-conducted-privately/

edit: beaten
 
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Sianos

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RastaMentality said:
Gowdy:
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Oblivion said:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/gowd...i-interviews-will-now-be-conducted-privately/

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No, Gowdy, I don't think we're going to get to see any of your private interviews. I'm pretty sure that's what "private" means.

At least he acknowledged the failure of the hearing in terms of its stated purpose to undermine Hillary. Not so sure that two dozen more private hearings are going to change anything, nor that its a very smart move after he complained about a lack of transparency and wanting to find """the truth""" to host 24+ more privately where his lack of evidence and logic cannot be scrutinized.
 
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Black Mamba

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That Monmouth poll of iowa has got to be a bad sample. I think Cohn is 100% right on that one.

Hillary might be winning but there's no way that the electorate has that few youth voters in it. I don't like the idea that you had to vote in one of the last 2 primaries to be considered for a poll. It ignores all newcomers. I mean, I could understand screening out people older than a certain age who didn't vote in the last two, but you essentially through out anyone who turned 18 in the last 7 years (since a lot wouldn't show up in 2012 since it was unnecessary).
 
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ivysaur12

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Black Mamba said:
That Monmouth poll of iowa has got to be a bad sample. I think Cohn is 100% right on that one.

Hillary might be winning but there's no way that the electorate has that few youth voters in it. I don't like the idea that you had to vote in one of the last 2 primaries to be considered for a poll. It ignores all newcomers. I mean, I could understand screening out people older than a certain age who didn't vote in the last two, but you essentially through out anyone who turned 18 in the last 7 years (since a lot wouldn't show up in 2012 since it was unnecessary).
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Agreed. There's no way.
 
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Manmademan

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Black Mamba said:
That Monmouth poll of iowa has got to be a bad sample. I think Cohn is 100% right on that one.

Hillary might be winning but there's no way that the electorate has that few youth voters in it. I don't like the idea that you had to vote in one of the last 2 primaries to be considered for a poll. It ignores all newcomers. I mean, I could understand screening out people older than a certain age who didn't vote in the last two, but you essentially through out anyone who turned 18 in the last 7 years (since a lot wouldn't show up in 2012 since it was unnecessary).
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Keep in mind though that Iowa is a caucus, not an election. The process is quite a bit more involved.
 
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B-Dubs

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Black Mamba said:
That Monmouth poll of iowa has got to be a bad sample. I think Cohn is 100% right on that one.

Hillary might be winning but there's no way that the electorate has that few youth voters in it. I don't like the idea that you had to vote in one of the last 2 primaries to be considered for a poll. It ignores all newcomers. I mean, I could understand screening out people older than a certain age who didn't vote in the last two, but you essentially through out anyone who turned 18 in the last 7 years (since a lot wouldn't show up in 2012 since it was unnecessary).
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Pretty much. Hillary is probably up, but it's probably better to get rid of that screen for a better look at the race as it stands. Or even have a way to only screen out older voters while still polling newcomers.
 
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Black Mamba

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Manmademan said:
Keep in mind though that Iowa is a caucus, not an election. The process is quite a bit more involved.
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Of course. And recall, I'm the one who argued Bernie's numbers are overstated in the polling because he won't be able to turn out many of those voters.

I still think that's true.

But the poll basically said if you turned 18 after January 2008, we won't assume you'll vote in this caucus. While that number is probably a small number, relatively speaking, there's no way it's insignificant. So to leave those people out, who IMO definitely are more likely to support Bernie than any other age group, is ridiculous.

Just make a likely voter screen of some kind for those who turned 18 after January 2008 and screen out those that are like 35+ who didn't vote in 2008 or 2012. Don't just throw out an entire bloc of people.

Pretty much. Hillary is probably up, but it's probably better to get rid of that screen for a better look at the race as it stands. Or even have a way to only screen out older voters while still polling newcomers.
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Exactly.

We went from oversampling Bernie supporters to oversampling Hillary supporters. Come on pollsters, we can do better!
 
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Black Mamba

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Separate note, my cousin received this letter from harry reid yesterday. Yes, we don't know why it's dated in june and he just got it now.

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I omitted his name/address of course.

Pretty cool.


I guess if I ever need Harry Reid's services, I knew who has the hookup for me!
 
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NeoXChaos

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Black Mamba said:
Of course. And recall, I'm the one who argued Bernie's numbers are overstated in the polling because he won't be able to turn out many of those voters.

I still think that's true.

But the poll basically said if you turned 18 after January 2008, we won't assume you'll vote in this caucus. While that number is probably a small number, relatively speaking, there's no way it's insignificant. So to leave those people out, who IMO definitely are more likely to support Bernie than any other age group, is ridiculous.

Just make a likely voter screen of some kind for those who turned 18 after January 2008 and screen out those that are like 35+ who didn't vote in 2008 or 2012. Don't just throw out an entire bloc of people.



Exactly.

We went from oversampling Bernie supporters to oversampling Hillary supporters. Come on pollsters, we can do better!
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What do you make of the Loras College IA poll?
 
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NeoXChaos

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Black Mamba said:
didn't it have HIllary dominating the youth vote, or something? I have to look into it but initially that seems wrong.
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yup that is the one.

ivysaur12 said:
Me neither.
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Konka said:
I don't think I can deal with the people in the OT political threads anymore.
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OT political threads are interesting to say the least. I don't see why we bother making a new thread on every poll that ends up riling certain people to have the thread locked in the end. There has been atleast 20 OT threads on Hillary-Bernie.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1078036&page=6
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1102420&page=4
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1081447&page=13
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=174539088&highlight=#post174539088
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1073924&page=1
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1045021
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1078250&page=6
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109843
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169307502#post169307502
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=172912601&highlight=#post172912601
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=178424660&highlight=#post178424660
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1097313&highlight=
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1102747&page=5
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130430
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1108901
 
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Black Mamba

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NeoXChaos said:
yup that is the one.
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Their previous poll wasn't much different. 57-26 in August.

over 1/3 of the D Sample is Born Again? 80% landline. These numbers concern me.

62-32 youth 18-34 vote for hillary? I guess this could happen if they're really religious? It's Hillary's best group other than 65+ which just seems weird.
 
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User 463088

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I'm sorry, but this made me laugh way harder than it should:

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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have the seat, but I would love for almost any other Democrat to hold this seat. She's not on the list of my favorite Democrats.
 
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ivysaur12

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adam387 said:
I'm sorry, but this made me laugh way harder than it should:

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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have the seat, but I would love for almost any other Democrat to hold this seat. She's not on the list of my favorite Democrats.
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She's a stunningly caniving, sharp-toothed fighter who's maybe not progressive, but I love her tenacity and honesty.
 
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