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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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Fragamemnon
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Reince then proceeded to infuriate every working woman in the country with that tweet.
nature boy
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I'm not hopeful with Holt or Wallace. I think Holt's going to play it safe, his lack of moderator experience will probably show. Can't believe they went with an inexperienced moderator for the most important debate.
Gimme Gwen or Tapper.
TestOfTide
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Well, excluding Chris Wallace, yeah. Chris was asked again after what happened last night and doubled down.
Hopefully this push back and the fact that Clinton is talking with the press a lot more means that we are less likely to see journalists and debate moderators waste too much time on the emails.
Cesare Borgia
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Also Lauer isn't really a journalist. The debates will be hosted by actual journalists who are going to ask legitimate questions and have the ability to go back and forth with candidates.
But Trump is the REAL New Yorker!
darkstar0155
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its absolute joke that she gets asked about them pretty much every time she speaks, even though nothing new/relevant has been found, yet trump never gets asked about Trump U anymore, or his comment about the judge, or any other BS he has spewed.
They will never drop the email thing, but drop Trump's BS at the drop of a hat
Fragamemnon
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I don't think Wallace really helps out Trump too much on the FP debate. Trump's just too far gone for moderation to really matter. He can't talk for the full length of the debate and not drop a dozen things that would torpedo a 'normal' candidate.
As mentioned yesterday,
SAD!
Clinton $143 million.
And what are they doing with that money? Clearly not opening offices in Florida or running many ads.
No, but at the very worst he could help prop him up.
BlastProcessing
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I think it's likely that, when push comes to shove, Wallace will value his reputation and ongoing career over protecting a flash-in-the-pan lightweight.
Voysa Reezun
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Oh, you mean the best.
I'll excuse the mistake though, as you've already made a mistake by not being born in Seattle or being a Seahawks fan, so I expect further errors from you.
Fragamemnon
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going into the GOP campaign patronage machine, untargeted web ads, and other low-return efforts.
I wonder if Cruz or Jeb might have been able to centralize the campaign and cut off the traditional GOP campaign apparatus and run everything in house (the modern way that Obama pioneered). Learning from OFA isn't a crime against conservatism.
I'm not really worried about Wallace right now. I feel like Holt, Raddatz and Cooper will push back pretty hard on Trump's biggest lies in the first two debates that by the third (if we have a third), Wallace won't have to re-litigate those same lies again.
He'll just let the two talk and debate and let Trump hang himself while Hillary drags him (mixing metaphors, oops).
Yup. He was largely fine in the primaries. Hell, most of the Fox debates weren't that bad, if my memory serves me.
He'll just let the two talk and debate and let Trump hang himself while Hillary drags him (mixing metaphors, oops).
Yup. He was largely fine in the primaries. Hell, most of the Fox debates weren't that bad, if my memory serves me.
TestOfTide
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Half of it goes towards Trump Tower rent and Corey's "severance pay".
The other half will go to manufacturing "Make Mexico Great Again Also" hats.
Fox news moderator is probably gonna be hot garbage considering he's already admitted he won't push back on lies. Saying you're no factchecker is one thing, but when a presidential candidate is blatantly lying to your face and the country right in front of you and we just heard the truth not shortly before it... well.
Go on TV and tell lies? Who would do that?
BlastProcessing
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I think it's a valid approach as long as you give the opponent an opportunity to call out the lies. There is something to be said for allowing the 3 different moderators to approach their roles with different philosophies.
I'm one of the lucky ones. There are actual people who were born in Seattle and love the Seahawks.... they need all our prayers.
Voysa Reezun
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This sounds like something Matt Lauer would say right after asking Hillary why she couldn't satisfy her husband, forcing him to cheat, and conceding to Trump that Trump has a very good brain.
Exactly like that. Mess.
Fragamemnon
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Rand carrying water for Trump given their dramatic differences on FP is just awful.
Overarching point-this election feels like everyone is pretty much locked in already on who they vote for, and polling seems to swing more on respondent enthusiasm than any real metric of shift in preferences. Trump making a giant idiot of himself after the RNC and Hillary having a great DNC? Hillary goes up. Hillary getting hounded for BS? Things get closer.
This election for Hillary isn't about convincing people anymore that they should vote for her-it's instead about making sure that the people that have made the decision that if they vote they will vote for her (in a two way) come out to vote.
Trump's angle is to try to use third party protest votes and try to drag this down to a point where a candidate wins with much less than a majority vote. That seems unlikely in the modern era, but really it's all he's got.
Edit: so torn on the seahawks. on one hand, Bobby Wagner (see avatar). On the other hand, No Fun League is icky and making me thing of Seattle sports makes me think of the Huskies. That makes me think of all the disappointment watching them lose to Oregon over and over. Sad!
Overarching point-this election feels like everyone is pretty much locked in already on who they vote for, and polling seems to swing more on respondent enthusiasm than any real metric of shift in preferences. Trump making a giant idiot of himself after the RNC and Hillary having a great DNC? Hillary goes up. Hillary getting hounded for BS? Things get closer.
This election for Hillary isn't about convincing people anymore that they should vote for her-it's instead about making sure that the people that have made the decision that if they vote they will vote for her (in a two way) come out to vote.
Trump's angle is to try to use third party protest votes and try to drag this down to a point where a candidate wins with much less than a majority vote. That seems unlikely in the modern era, but really it's all he's got.
Edit: so torn on the seahawks. on one hand, Bobby Wagner (see avatar). On the other hand, No Fun League is icky and making me thing of Seattle sports makes me think of the Huskies. That makes me think of all the disappointment watching them lose to Oregon over and over. Sad!
Actors.
rokkerkory
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This somber story on the Bin Laden raid is right out of the Biden playbook. It's a good story too though. Very effective.
That's arguably her floor right now.
Is this really correct? Hopefully it is but seems a tad optimistic.
This is a great point.
I think - and the 1600 guys said this a while back - it's probably a bad idea to think that Hill can pull moderate GOPers to her side. I think she just has to really pick up her own message and focus on turn out. Trump is going to dampen some GOP turnout too, and that should be enough. Won't be a landslide.
Fragamemnon
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It's more or less rock solid IMO. The only places you could remotely diablos on that map are NH and PA and Trump hasn't really come close in composite polling in either state.
Voysa Reezun
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I believe that she leads by eight or more in the aggregates of polls for all states in blue. So yeah, her floor is probably over 270.
metalslimer
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Why the fuck is he talking about emails at a charter school at an event about education
Bonen no Max'd
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if this happens, my only regret about leaving the terrible cult-y church I used to go to would be watching them struggle with worshipping the ground the Seahawks walk on and seeing them try to criticize them for taking this stance.
Dominican Power
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WTF is orange turd babbling about?
NYCmetsfan
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whyamihere
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.......as the????
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I hope they do. My brother lives in Seattle. I'll make them my official NFC team if they follow through.
DNC still being disrespectful to Sanders!
Don't they already have their own court system AND Police?
whyamihere
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yes.
metalslimer
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He is basically pretending like Clinton was in charge of handling thr Iraq war. You don't get to pretend like you were a genius for saying it was a mistake a few months in when everyone realized what a disaster it was going to be.
Dubbedinenglish
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I watched many episodes of JAG on the treadmill at my gym. Can confirm
Yea...also jails and shit.
whyamihere
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metalslimer
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Ugh...
Joe Molotov
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But Trump will fire all the stupid Obama generals and rehire all the 88 great generals that support him and make JAG Great Again.
nature boy
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Good, considering it's Q.
North Carolina poll is pretty good
PA poll is okay for Q
Ohio poll is bad
FL poll is meh
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