balladofwindfishes
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A mental breakdown over 20 years ago would have no real bearing at all on Trump's current mental state.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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whyamihere
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Wow. Gross!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
You know what? I know it's Trump, but a nervous breakdown over 26 years ago should have absolutely zero bearing on an election.
What the hell?
Despite that fart right there, I do believe that the conversation will quickly turn to Trump's health, especially after tomorrow's inevitable Dr. Oz debacle. With Hillary recuperating, the media will want to move on to Trump again.
What happens if Trump confesses to having mental problems in the 90s on Dr. Oz' show?
benjipwns
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Somebody probably would have noticed if Trump disappeared off to a mental institution in the middle of the Trump Taj Mahal opening and going bankrupt, his affair being exposed and his divorce starting as a result.
Of course, these days it's practically standard procedure that somebody announces they're going into some kind of rehab to escape the media attention and hope it blows over.
Instead he was giving interviews to Playboy and Vanity Fair.
Of course, these days it's practically standard procedure that somebody announces they're going into some kind of rehab to escape the media attention and hope it blows over.
Instead he was giving interviews to Playboy and Vanity Fair.
Imagine him out there as much as possible next month.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Russia leaking that Simone Biles takes ADHD medication in response to Russia getting banned from the Olympics is the saltiest, most pathetic shit I've ever seen.
That country is ruled by sewage-based lifeforms.
That country is ruled by sewage-based lifeforms.
benjipwns
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Besides, Trump was busy at Waldo's box car race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twbm0gQMVdk
Which begs the question, why aren't democrats making a case that orange turd admires and sees Russia as a foundation for turning the United States into an oligarchy led dictatorship.
Black Mamba
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The party didn't do shit. There simply wasn't any other candidate to rally around. The GOP base also thought 2012 was a slam dunk because Obama was horrible in their bubble and they were convinced that a Romney type would win. When he didn't, their eyes opened up a little that things in the country were changing. Trump is basically their last stand.
Trump might have won 4 years ago, too. Romney won by default and nothing more. That's not to say he is a bad politician or anything, it's just by 2012 the GOP lost all its power in this respect.
If you don't think so, think about the staggering amount of money Romney had to spend just to fend off Santorum and Newt.
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This is misleading. This is among PRIMARY voters. Primary voters across the board are more well off.
Sure, I agree, not all of Trump's supporters are poor. I think his support is actually interesting. I think a lot of well-off racists support him because they don't want their tax dollars going to the "others" and poor rural America votes for him too (just not as much in the primary as will be in the GE).
The real divide in America is rural vs urban.
I don't remember this, but it is both funny, sad, and depressing all at the same time
Chile Demands Information on Detained Journalist Who Embarrassed Venezuelas President
Tweet with funny picture
Doesn't really have a whole lot to do with America, but thought it was interesting and I doubt it would get a lot of attention on the OT
Chile Demands Information on Detained Journalist Who Embarrassed Venezuelas President
Tweet with funny picture
Doesn't really have a whole lot to do with America, but thought it was interesting and I doubt it would get a lot of attention on the OT
Black Mamba
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Wold Blitzer actually missed a HUUUUGE opportunity yesterday. Yes, he got Pence to not call Duke deplorable but he should have followed up with this.
"Okay. You say you're not in the name calling business. But Donald, this morning, called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, which is a racially charged epithet. What's your response to Trump using this name-calling language."
Then follow-up on that. Pence is obviously bad at thinking on his feet...so like demonstrate it.
benjipwns
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Who notably, had basically no money outside of Adelson's that Newt wasted somehow and still ended up stiffing vendors. And both had such a poor campaign apparatus that they failed to get on the ballot in multiple states and had zero staff in more.
whyamihere
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Worst Nate could be now Best Nate?
Fragamemnon
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This is mostly true, but I believe it's more accurate to say that the real divide is urban culture ( multicultural, inclusive, and diverse) vs. rural culture ( uniculture, does not value diversity, not inclusive ). Everything more or less feeds from that split and it better explains why some suburbs and especially exurbs with a more rural culture vote the way they do even with location well within an MSA.
Sorry Bibi, the Palestinians Are Not Ethnic Cleansing Jewish Settlers
Thats some tone-deaf shit right there
That's not something you should say without backing it up.
I really do think that Trump is a very different character now than he was in the 80s. Watch his old interviews - much more soft spoken and composed. I'm not saying there is anything to this, but I do wonder.
benjipwns
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jfc, get a blog or something
what's next, you'll start looking at Hillary back when Bill was Governor of Arkansas and she was being a cattle futures trading expert and not dying from obamacare?
nature boy
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Folks, mental health is a serious issue.
Either put up or shut up (this is directed at the Newsweek guy).
Either put up or shut up (this is directed at the Newsweek guy).
benjipwns
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I dislike bibi so much. Are there term limits in Israel because I'm tired of his shit.
plagiarize
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Oh, because it was 11 tweets. I get it.
NYCmetsfan
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Don't people always say this issue "won't affect my vote"
Its a pretty stupid question
RustyNails
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But the electroshock stuff did not matter until McGovern screwed the pooch. It was a non issue until McGovern started waffling and ultimately chopped Eagleton. Poor guy.
Basileus777
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Eagleton is not a positive example of how this should be handled!
benjipwns
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It's probably true that for 80% of people nothing would affect their vote. They'll vote for the R or D regardless.
The best part was the reveal 35 years later that he was the source of the amnesty, acid and abortion quote.
RustyNails
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Draft Muskie!!!
Finale Fireworker
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I had a minor spat with my Trump-supporting father that I was able to walk away from feeling good, for once.
He said "did you hear the new WikiLeaks rumor? That Hillary is on (some medication)?"
I asked why that is a rumor and why that matters, while also saying that Julian Assange was a rapist who has been hiding in Ecuador posting FOIA'd documents for the last two years. He didn't know who Julian Assange was, losing his footing slightly.
He explained that this prescription would be used as/to make speed. I asked if he seriously thought Hillary Clinton Was taking speed. He said "you never know! Low energy!"
To which I said, we have had a president so fat that he got stuck in a bathtub. JFK had Addison's Disease. We had a president who could not physically stand up. Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's. I said I was not worried about a seventy year old woman taking prescriptions.
My father is a brick wall of ignorance and can be very hard to stagger. He ended this one by asking "but what if she kicked puppies?"
It made me feel like that people's minds are already made up and that the only people who care about the health scare thing are the people looking for anything to validate their negative perception of Clinton. I needed that. Because the only person who Diabloses more than Diablos is me.
He said "did you hear the new WikiLeaks rumor? That Hillary is on (some medication)?"
I asked why that is a rumor and why that matters, while also saying that Julian Assange was a rapist who has been hiding in Ecuador posting FOIA'd documents for the last two years. He didn't know who Julian Assange was, losing his footing slightly.
He explained that this prescription would be used as/to make speed. I asked if he seriously thought Hillary Clinton Was taking speed. He said "you never know! Low energy!"
To which I said, we have had a president so fat that he got stuck in a bathtub. JFK had Addison's Disease. We had a president who could not physically stand up. Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's. I said I was not worried about a seventy year old woman taking prescriptions.
My father is a brick wall of ignorance and can be very hard to stagger. He ended this one by asking "but what if she kicked puppies?"
It made me feel like that people's minds are already made up and that the only people who care about the health scare thing are the people looking for anything to validate their negative perception of Clinton. I needed that. Because the only person who Diabloses more than Diablos is me.
benjipwns
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Oh sure, like we want to put a man who cries up against Trump.
benjipwns
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Good job fighting ignorance with accusations and myths.
nature boy
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Finale Fireworker
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I know. I admit I was looking for something heavy to destabilize my father. I would rather be honest about what I said, though. I also admit that, despite being 25, I am very afraid of my father and it was the best I could do on the spot.
Elegant, no. Emotionally cathartic, yes.
I didn't, however, know the Taft-in-the-tub-thing wasn't true. Some quick reading says an extra-huge bathtub was required to be installed for him, which is what I always thought. I guess I have to investigate further.
If only we could get those Stein supporters to vote for the actual progressive candidate...
We don't need them as they were never for liberal policies.
Emerson polling is garbage.
benjipwns
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Gloria isn't on the ballot in every state.
Tend to feel this way as well.
benjipwns
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He was only up 6 in PPP's from last month too: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_TX_81616.pdf
shinra-bansho
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Trump's voting base is less educated whites that think everything is going to hell. So they're poorer than their well educated white counterparts that are splitting more evenly.
Also he's still bad Nate. It doesn't take a painfully tortuous analogy to just say Trump is getting nowhere near the scrutiny he deserves.
Also he's still bad Nate. It doesn't take a painfully tortuous analogy to just say Trump is getting nowhere near the scrutiny he deserves.
aspiegamer
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America is not mature enough to try to manage a conversation about a presidential candidate with a history of mental health issues. We're just not. So seriously it's better that it's not real. Watching Democrats try to straddle the line between saying it was fine now versus people having concerns would be PAINFUL. Leave that kind of moral doublespeak to Republicans talking about Clinton. At the same time it'd be incredibly painful to watch Republicans try to dismiss it as No Big Deal given how picky they've been about Clinton.
I receive practically a crate of pills every month that attempt to put me in some combination of alive + sane. Would it theoretically make me a shitty president? Uh, I don't think so? Assuming me treatment was going extremely well in this thought experiment. Would I understand if people were terrified by this? Oh hell yes. We can't even manage to talk about mental health for veterans and among our own family members. Basically even I don't know what degree of "important" I'd rate it. The social stigma is suffocating. I feel like I'd be better off from a societal perspective if I had cancer. People at least understand how that might impact someone's daily life, its trials and can learn how there's actual treatment that can make the person lead a normal life. Depression or bi-polar disorder might as well be a terminal case of ebola walking around a large sporting event.
Had Trump actually been institutionalized for anything I'd probably think better of him. It means he, at some point in his life, admitted he wasn't perfect and sought help for something. That's not a Trump I've ever seen before.
I receive practically a crate of pills every month that attempt to put me in some combination of alive + sane. Would it theoretically make me a shitty president? Uh, I don't think so? Assuming me treatment was going extremely well in this thought experiment. Would I understand if people were terrified by this? Oh hell yes. We can't even manage to talk about mental health for veterans and among our own family members. Basically even I don't know what degree of "important" I'd rate it. The social stigma is suffocating. I feel like I'd be better off from a societal perspective if I had cancer. People at least understand how that might impact someone's daily life, its trials and can learn how there's actual treatment that can make the person lead a normal life. Depression or bi-polar disorder might as well be a terminal case of ebola walking around a large sporting event.
Had Trump actually been institutionalized for anything I'd probably think better of him. It means he, at some point in his life, admitted he wasn't perfect and sought help for something. That's not a Trump I've ever seen before.
benjipwns
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Stein is on 46 ballots + DC. The most ever for the Green Party iirc. (Nader ran on the Reform Party line or as an Independent in many states.)
Castle (Constitution Party) is on 35 ballots. (Technically 34, as Scott Copeland is the candidate in Idaho.)
Gloria (Party for Socialism and Liberation, Peace and Freedom Party, Liberty Union Party) is on 8.
Tom Hoefling (America's Party, a spin-off of the Constitution Party by Alan Keyes supporters because the CP was too liberal on abortion and gay marriage) is on three.
Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente (of benji's Democratic Primary vote fame) is on fourteen. Two of which he's using the ol Reform Party line.
Monica Moorehead (Workers World Party) is on four.
Ron White is on zero.
Evan McMullin is on eleven as an Independent.
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