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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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Best mexican food I ever had was in a shitty part of a neighborhood in a mexican area.
It was in a store that you could trade food stamps for pretty much anything you wanted and the store looked like it was filled with whatever the people who ran it to get your hands on. I remember they had a prom dress on sale next to cat litter and calling cards.
But they made a hell of a taco.
When I walked in they gave me a stare like I was about to ask for their green cards.
It was in a store that you could trade food stamps for pretty much anything you wanted and the store looked like it was filled with whatever the people who ran it to get your hands on. I remember they had a prom dress on sale next to cat litter and calling cards.
But they made a hell of a taco.
When I walked in they gave me a stare like I was about to ask for their green cards.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Sept 26th
Can't wait. Im gonna join a few friends to watch them. We all dislike both candidates.
That's interesting, Europeans generally like Hillary and are surprised she has such a negative approval rating here.
User 463088
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Why the fuck is MSNBC using the word excoriated in a headline about Donald Trump and Twitter!? Jesus.
Also, the AP needs Jesus.
Also, the AP needs Jesus.
Maybe some adults, but the youth here heavily dislikes both of them.
Not if he doesn't meet the polling requirements. Which he hasn't even come close to. That'll be trumps avenue to not attending though which I am excited about.
User 463088
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He's averaging about 9.8% in the 5 polls he has to average 15% in. The polls utilized for this will be out in 2-3 weeks. I doubt he hits 15% in any of them, let alone an average of the 5.
HanShotFirst
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I love how someone spelled her name wrong so they had to squeeze they extra "L" in there.
RIP.
Young people are really into counter culture and get upset easily when things don't go exactly their way. Especially the ones that were given everything when they were younger and have finally experienced the cruel realities of the world. So it's not wonder they don't like Hillary. She's not a "I'll make everything better for your specific life situation" candidate, she's a "I'll make things easier for you to make your life situation better on your own" candidate.
No offense, but this is the same dumb old people stuff people say about every generation. And often every Democrat!
To the degree that young people prefer revolutionary changes to incremental ones, I think it is mostly about having less stake in the existing order and potentially less memory of its historical trend, not some made up thing about them being entitled.
That would be terrible. The more people on the stage, the more Trump can deflect, hide and run out the clock. Trump needs to be exposed as a know-nothing and be harassed and harried so he makes mistakes. Adding Johnson, who has no chance of being president, just gives Trump cover.
What are the main arguments?
The best case scenario for the debates is:
- Trump and Clinton attend the first debate
- Trump comes out swinging, lands a few blows, but realizes that he can't do that for 90min straight. Looks like he's bullying Clinton.
- Clinton comes across as presidential and knowledgeable.
- Consensus is that Clinton dominated the debate and she gets a sizeable polling bump
- Trump screams that the debate was rigged and pulls out of the other rigged debates
- He looks like a bitch and it further craters his poll numbers
- Clinton attends and gets to frame herself in a positive light and further bolsters her numbers. Landslide mode activated.
Please Lord Elon Musk let this happen.
- Trump and Clinton attend the first debate
- Trump comes out swinging, lands a few blows, but realizes that he can't do that for 90min straight. Looks like he's bullying Clinton.
- Clinton comes across as presidential and knowledgeable.
- Consensus is that Clinton dominated the debate and she gets a sizeable polling bump
- Trump screams that the debate was rigged and pulls out of the other rigged debates
- He looks like a bitch and it further craters his poll numbers
- Clinton attends and gets to frame herself in a positive light and further bolsters her numbers. Landslide mode activated.
Please Lord Elon Musk let this happen.
BlastProcessing
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Seriously, what the fuck is going on at the AP right now?
The AP tweeted this as well:
AP Interactive ‏@AP_Interactive 2h2 hours ago
INTERACTIVE MAP: The Road to 270 What will it take to win the White House? http://apne.ws/2bIAyJS
Just look at that fucking map. They have to make Minnesota a toss up to make things seem even? Sweet Jesus. It's tied 233 to 233 guys! It couldn't be any closer!
Then when you go to the actual site you get a for more reasonable map.
The AP tweeted this as well:
AP Interactive ‏@AP_Interactive 2h2 hours ago
INTERACTIVE MAP: The Road to 270 What will it take to win the White House? http://apne.ws/2bIAyJS
Just look at that fucking map. They have to make Minnesota a toss up to make things seem even? Sweet Jesus. It's tied 233 to 233 guys! It couldn't be any closer!
Then when you go to the actual site you get a for more reasonable map.
Spoiled Milk
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The milk's gone bad, but the news is fresh.
Missed this week of PoliGAF? Here's a recap.
8/22
Trump said he would consider legalization
But then walked it back...
And cancelled all of his rallies and speeches for the week, including his immigration speech
Giuliani starts a new "Beat her!" chant.
8/23
Terry gives felons their vote back again.
Hillary opens a jar of pickles to demonstrate that she is not yet dead
Cher sounds off for Hillary Clinton:
Before the political revolution can even start: half of Bernie's staff quits because Leave It To Weaver
8/24
Trump donated $100k to the Clinton Foundation; thought they did a lot of "good work"
Trump flops his flip on immigration. Will focus on violent criminals first.
8/25
Clinton associates Trump with white nationalism and alt right conservatism in scathing speech
Bannon's registered to vote from a soon to be demolished vacant house in a swing state
8/26
Paul LePage leaks his own voicemail (?) calling lawmaker a cocksucker:
And then called people of color The Enemy
And is now under a FOAA request by the ACLU.
Steve Bannon didn't want his kids in a school full of Jews.
8/27
Trump exploits death of Dwyane Wade's cousin, misspells name
NEWS OF THE WEEK: Irish fishing island accepts American refugees if Trump becomes president.
Post of the week: Lothar offers an anthology of a liberal's lone fight against Bill O'Reilly.
Missed this week of PoliGAF? Here's a recap.
8/22
Trump said he would consider legalization
But then walked it back...
And cancelled all of his rallies and speeches for the week, including his immigration speech
Giuliani starts a new "Beat her!" chant.
8/23
Terry gives felons their vote back again.
Hillary opens a jar of pickles to demonstrate that she is not yet dead
Cher sounds off for Hillary Clinton:
Before the political revolution can even start: half of Bernie's staff quits because Leave It To Weaver
8/24
Trump donated $100k to the Clinton Foundation; thought they did a lot of "good work"
Trump flops his flip on immigration. Will focus on violent criminals first.
8/25
Clinton associates Trump with white nationalism and alt right conservatism in scathing speech
Bannon's registered to vote from a soon to be demolished vacant house in a swing state
8/26
Paul LePage leaks his own voicemail (?) calling lawmaker a cocksucker:
And then called people of color The Enemy
And is now under a FOAA request by the ACLU.
Steve Bannon didn't want his kids in a school full of Jews.
8/27
Trump exploits death of Dwyane Wade's cousin, misspells name
NEWS OF THE WEEK: Irish fishing island accepts American refugees if Trump becomes president.
Post of the week: Lothar offers an anthology of a liberal's lone fight against Bill O'Reilly.
The extent of what happened was a guy was (by my judgment) looking too hard to find a time to call his professor out on being "politically correct". And then no one really reacted to him and then the professor moved on from that topic.
But I'm boring and thought it was funny - and I was slightly irked at the time because he interrupted what I found to be the most interesting part of an otherwise dull lecture to say some irrelevant comments about political correctness.
6/10 lecture overall, I guess it accomplished it's goals for the sake of the class, but as an observer I was not entertained.
Problem was that it actually wasn't my class, and I felt weird further interrupting since I wasn't supposed to be there.
I've never had problems in the past sneaking into lectures and sneaking friends into mine, but I also usually sit in the back and stay out of the discussion.
In classes I'm actually enrolled for I've done that sort of thing in the past too. Maybe it's the laid back vibe on campus and the fact that it's a majority minority student body, but I only ever hear whining interruptions from the right.
Then again, the obnoxious parts of the left probably just don't show up for class, just like they don't show up to vote in midterm elections.
Basileus777
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You missed the craziest part. West Virginia is a toss up. Someone just arbitrarily shifted things to get a tied number.
And Florida is automatically given to Trump
SolidSnakeUS
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This honestly could be some great ammo for Hillary. When at a debate, she can declare that she supports Isreal and that Trump's campaign is being run by an anti-Semite.
BlastProcessing
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Fucking hell.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I have to wonder if the media's "BOTH SIDES!" from recently (even regarding Trump hiring a NeoNazi and a rapist and then celebrating after the death of a black woman) is because they want a horse-race or because they are super racist.
Hillary has led every poll of Ohio since the DNC.
Hillary has led every poll of Florida since July except for the rnc chamber of commerce poll.
Lol ap
I think the main problem that young people have with Clinton is that she doesnt tickle people's lizard brain like a Sanders or an Obama. She doesn't fill people with powerful emotions like hope, zeal, and the desire to fight back against strong injustices (Righteous indignation - just thought of the word)
Therefore, people, and young people especially (since they aren't jaded yet from experience) have a hard time being inspired and moved by her, and some can easily fall into the republican narrative that she is just some corrupt establishment insider who really doesn't care about people. She cares about power and will say and do anything to get it.
They want a close race. Better for ratings. Barring anything catastrophic it'll be funny seeing this election called early.
But you'll have Wolf Blitzer calling it a "dead heat" until then.
nature boy
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What's with the big 5 polls?
All waiting to drop at the same time?
All waiting to drop at the same time?
campfireweekend
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You really are incapable of making a comment without explicitly mentioning this aren't you?
You should also venture outside your bubble a bit. Polls show that, with very few exceptions such as in China or Russia, that people around the world like Hillary.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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But I mean, "Wade and Trump speak out after NBA's star cousin is killed." by the AP feels, uhh, extremely racist.
That's the tweet that makes me wonder.
User 463088
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I think with the media it comes down to a few things. I do believe they want a close race. That's how you make bank on ratings. It's why Nate tweets OMG 3 POINT SWING GUIS ...but ignore she's still over 80% okay?
They also have this tendency to pretend that all stories are equally important so they appear fair. I've loved watching people tear CNN and MSNBC a new one over their attempt to equate Hillary's speech with Trump calling her a bigot. No rational person believes these two things are remotely the same, but the media tries to push that narrative..
I also think they have no idea how to cover a race that isn't really close. We saw this in the primary too. At no point was Hillary in any danger of losing, but, my god, they had to try and make it look like she was. Blowouts are boring.
Then, you know, Clinton Derangement Syndrome, etc.
They also have this tendency to pretend that all stories are equally important so they appear fair. I've loved watching people tear CNN and MSNBC a new one over their attempt to equate Hillary's speech with Trump calling her a bigot. No rational person believes these two things are remotely the same, but the media tries to push that narrative..
I also think they have no idea how to cover a race that isn't really close. We saw this in the primary too. At no point was Hillary in any danger of losing, but, my god, they had to try and make it look like she was. Blowouts are boring.
Then, you know, Clinton Derangement Syndrome, etc.
nature boy
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Just asking, at this point the CPD will only have one poll from each to factor in.
Trump off the teleprompter at the Iowa thingy.
There's a month until the next debate
They will probably start releasing weekly polls after Labor Day. Especially because the debates depend on it
Also, they are using the average of the last poll from each of the five. It's not like the primaries where they averaged it over a month or three.
It's entirely possible (probable?) that it's both.
The whole media is racist? No, they just want ratings.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1996/02/why-americans-hate-the-media/305060/
Written 20 years ago, and it seems like it has only gotten worse.
Cesare Borgia
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This sounds like something a republican would say.
I think it's rather clear why young people dislike Clinton. They have no nostalgia for her husband's presidency/her FLOTUS years, they aren't impressed by her record, she's old and doesn't come off as authentic to many of them. They didn't like her in 08 (back when they weren't old enough to vote), they don't like her now. Young people tend to be very politically illiterate, and those types respond the best to idealist candidates who appeal to their higher ideals on how things should be. Obama, Sanders, RFK, JFK, etc types.
Hillary Clinton (or the facade of Hillary Clinton, created by the media/republicans - or the real Hillary Clinton, after dealing with the media/republicans for decades) is the exact opposite of what many young people want in a candidate. She has blatantly flip flopped on a variety of important issues, she supports foreign policy that most young people despise, her demographic outreach is awkward/forced, she can't answer basic questions during an interview, etc. She's a flawed candidate who doesn't make up for it by being charming/deceptive like Bill Clinton.
There's some sexism thrown in too, not to mention the double standards she is held to plus dealing with decades of hit jobs. But at the same time I think it's wrong to dismiss her flaws or the reasons many (non republicans) have issues with her. There's no such thing as a perfect politician, everyone has flaws.
It's probably just the media trying to seem as impartial as possible, even if they end up looking rather silly in the process.
I think most people are at least unconsciously racist. It's not anyone's fault, we've all just been exposed to so much racial programming that we've developed racist schemas that cause us to have unintentional racist behaviours sometimes. So, yes, I think it's probably both.
nature boy
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Oh in that case, yeah then it's no problem.
bizarre lol
Reporters covering the State department all expressed some shock at this, overseas she'd get an Obama-esque reception when she traveled and did speeches. One of them wrote an article about it a few months ago.
We need a new term for what AP's doing with the map there. If Yellow Journalism is purposely trying to agitate, then this is "Grey" journalism; trying desperately to make the race look close or dead even when it clearly isn't.
That, or last night I slipped into an alternate reality where somehow West fucking Virginia is in play. Are the Bears Berenstain or Berenstein in this universe?
That, or last night I slipped into an alternate reality where somehow West fucking Virginia is in play. Are the Bears Berenstain or Berenstein in this universe?
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