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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll

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Spoiled Milk

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‏@realDonaldTrump
Thank you Arizona! #VoteTrump
4:04 PM - 28 Aug 2016
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Why is Trump admitting that he's only two points ahead in Arizona?
 
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BlastProcessing

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Cesare Borgia said:
I'd hope we can agree that someone running for president in his or her late 60s who had a concussion within the last couple years...probably should release his or her medical records. If anything republicans have jumped the shark on what could have been a rather simple issue most people would agree on, and instead turned it into a conspiracy theory driven shit show.
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The problem with releasing medical records is that medical records are a fucking mess. I say this as the spouse of someone with a disability who does a good amount of activist and advocacy for other patients. Raw doctor's notes are often full of misdiagnoses and half truths. It's some real sloppy shit. We have had to spend months before getting some dumb thing corrected.

Here is an actual example of something that was written in my wife's records once:

Crazyass Dr. said:
At this point, I can listen and contemplate the relatedness of symptoms. Can one human body respond to so many situation against the laws of nature and science as we know them?
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Why in the blue hell would this be in a medical record? Shit like this happens all the time in my experience. Doctors, are extremely flawed individuals, even the international experts.

Clinton's Dr's summary was pretty thorough. I suppose if people wanted more a partial 3rd party group could be formed. A commision on presidential health. Releasing the records to a panel of Doctors and experts, sure. We could have them go over them and report to the public, but releasing them in raw form to the public could be a disaster for any candidate.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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BlastProcessing said:
Here is an actual example of something that was written in my wife's records once:

Crazyass Dr. said:
At this point, I can listen and contemplate the relatedness of symptoms. Can one human body respond to so many situation against the laws of nature and science as we know them?
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I legit lawled at this. Yup, let's not release the medical records.

Slayven said:
Arizona we so red that we refused to recognize MLK until the 1990s? That Arizona?
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Arizona, where 30% of the population is latino, Arizona.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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BlastProcessing

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Spoiled Milk said:
I legit lawled at this. Yup, let's not release the medical records.
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I just stared at it for a while and tried to figure it out. Sadly, this was from one of her more competent doctors...

Trump has seen a fake ass doctor for 30 years. He will just have 30 years of fake bullshit. Clinton has seen real doctors so her records will be full of actual information that the public isn't educated enough to process.
 
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Iolo

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Ok, so what kind of medical records have presidents been releasing in modern times. The media seems to indicate they are more comprehensive than what HRC has released.
 
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Crayons

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my father just told me "Sometimes you talk like a libertarian and sometime you talk like a full blown socialist"

I...uh...what?
 
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B-Dubs

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Iolo said:
Ok, so what kind of medical records have presidents been releasing in modern times. The media seems to indicate they are more comprehensive than what HRC has released.
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I'm pretty sure she's released what everyone else has, if not she would have gotten shit for it a lot sooner than this.
 
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Bowdz

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Any predictions pre-debate will be incomplete. They will determine if a true landslide is possible or just a modest 6-8% win is in store.
 
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Bowdz

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This is the letter the Obama team released in 2008:

To Whom It May Concern:

I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama’s primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.
During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.
His family history is pertinent for his mother’s death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.

Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

Sincerely,
David L. Scheiner, M.D.
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It seems like Hillary's is on par with that.
 
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RustyNails

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Hillary should release her medical records to shut up the healthers and put the ball back in Trump's court. But I'm sure he's creating false medical records as we speak with the help of that ID4 doctor guy.
 
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Wafflecakes

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RustyNails said:
Hillary should release her medical records to shut up the healthers and put the ball back in Trump's court. But I'm sure he's creating false medical records as we speak with the help of that ID4 doctor guy.
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Fuck no. She shouldn't dance this dance of morons with Trump any more than she should have with the Bernie Bro's over her speech transcripts.

She should ignore it. If pushed she should offer to release her medical records if Trump releases his tax returns.
 
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Thequietone

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RustyNails said:
Hillary should release her medical records to shut up the healthers and put the ball back in Trump's court. But I'm sure he's creating false medical records as we speak with the help of that ID4 doctor guy.
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Then we can hear about how they are forged or something in the medical records will be blown out of proportion. I think everyone should just strap in and expect this and the emails to be trumpeted by the Right for the next 8 years. This will be her long form birth certificate.
 
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sc0la

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Like what record would satisfy them ( that's rhetorical: the answer is none) then they will start asking for invasive bullshit where are the discharge papers from Chelsea's birth. Can you prove Hillary wastage person that gave birth etc.
 
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ampere

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shinra-bansho said:
Trump is probably in poorer mental and physical health, given he's older than Hillary, a man, chronically sleep deprived, overweight like the rest of America.
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Hillary will probably live to her late 90s

Trump honestly looks like a heart attack or stroke risk is in his next decade

RustyNails said:
Hillary should release her medical records to shut up the healthers and put the ball back in Trump's court. But I'm sure he's creating false medical records as we speak with the help of that ID4 doctor guy.
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Remember when Obama released his birth certificate and birthers are no less of a thing?

No reason to appeal to lunatics
 
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KHarvey16

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If she releases detailed health records, the fact that she did so at all would be used as proof they are fake. It's wrong to think any of these people are motivated by a desire to know, so treating the issue as if they did will get us nowhere.
 
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KHarvey16 said:
If she releases detailed health records, the fact that she did so at all would be used as proof they are fake. It's wrong to think any of these people are motivated by a desire to know, so treating the issue as if they did will get us nowhere.
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trump: crooked hillary clearly paid her doctor to show proof she isn't dying.
 
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Joeytj

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I'm mixed on whether she should release her medical records in a more detailed manner, or respond to any other rumor like that. Obama did it and managed to embarrassed Trump along the way for a while.

He effectively shut up Trump politically for years and only returned to the political scene after the 2012 election. Hillary already released the same type of medical records as Obama, and as others have said, nothing she releases will quiet any of the quacks who believe this story,

But I think releasing her medical records will just show the rest of the electorate just how stupid Trump's attacks are and will further pressure Trump to release both his medical records and tax returns (which he won't do, let's be real).
 
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johnsmith

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She shouldn't release shit, and if asked about it just turn it around and talk about his taxes. She's released decades worth and he hasn't released a single year. Why would he keep his word about this when he never had before.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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Joeytj said:
I'm mixed on whether she should release her medical records in a more detailed manner, or respond to any other rumor like that. Obama did it and managed to embarrassed Trump along the way for a while.

He effectively shut up Trump politically for years and only returned to the political scene after the 2012 election. Hillary already released the same type of medical records as Obama, and as others have said, nothing she releases will quiet any of the quacks who believe this story,

But I think releasing her medical records will just show the rest of the electorate just how stupid Trump's attacks are and will further pressure Trump to release both his medical records and tax returns (which he won't do, let's be real).
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Trump was already crowing about long form bullshit. What shut him up was the Bin Laden raid happening a few days after.
 
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Crayons

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CygnusXS said:
Sounds like an anarchist to me.
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I just want the government to regulate illegal drugs like they do guns and regulate guns like they do with illegal drugs. Basically, I think we should switch drugs and guns. Instead of weed being on schedule 1 I want the AR-15 to be schedule 1
 
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