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[User1608]

Very good to see. Minority voters really will save us.
*Fixed mobile sucks

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

This. A well run press conference is a really good way to get all sorts of questions answered. Unfortunately I can't blame the Clinton camp for not holding any since all the questions would be about the e-mails or Huma's marriage.

Yeah, meritless or not, there's no valid reason to think you're above press conferences.

 

[BlastProcessing]

It allows for a deeper line of questioning.

A deeper line of questioning than a one-on-one interview?

The value of press conferences is that they give a lot of outlets very shallow access to a candidate. They are not a great vehicle for in depth questioning. It's easier to be evasive in a press conference than it is in a one on one interview.

 

[nature boy]

If the Clinton campaign said "ok we'll have a press conference, 3 questions on the emails, 3 questions on the foundation and move along" I would defend them.

But she's running out the clock with the press conferences, she doesn't trust the press and guess (prob. correctly) that it will be about emails and the foundation.

 

[B-Dubs]

Yeah, meritless or not, there's no valid reason to think you're above press conferences.

Can you really blame them for not holding any though? It's going to be 100% e-mails, foundation bullshit, and questions about Huma's marriage.

A deeper line of questioning than a one-on-one interview?

The value of press conferences is that they give a lot of outlets very shallow access to a candidate. They are not a great vehicle for in depth questioning. It's easier to be evasive in a press conference than it is in a one on one interview.

If you give 3 reporters the same answer to a question odds are they'll each have a unique follow up based on their own reporting. There's definitely situations where everyone would want to ask the same question though.

 

[User 463088]

Anyone here ever been polled? I've never been and I'm sure I can look up the process, but I'm curious about others' experiences.

I have quite a few times, both live survey and IVR polls. It takes a while, especially because the rules require they read everything to you verbatim. But, it's interesting.experience. They just ask you the questions in the survey, and then some demographic ones at the end, typically.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

This. A well run press conference is a really good way to get all sorts of questions answered. Unfortunately I can't blame the Clinton camp for not holding any since all the questions would be about the e-mails or Huma's marriage.

Can someone really point to a press conference that really reveals something revelatory? I seriously can not really think of one. Investigative reporting does, press conferences are some weird ritualistic thing that makes people believe that this proves people are accountable to the press.

the best possible outcome of a press conference would be more weiner jokes from howard sterns people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdU56DzcwM

Yeah, meritless or not, there's no valid reason to think you're above press conferences.

So they might not be useful but you still have to do them? That's like the definition of useless ritual

Press conferences are for crisis response. Idk why you randomly need to be shouted questions you've already answered

Edit: daily press conferences in the white house serve a different purpose because the president isn't able to constantly respond to press inquiries has he/she's doing president stuff

 

[thestopsign]

Keepin' It 1600 said that it normally wouldn't be a problem not holding a press conference, just at this point they probably should just to say they've had one.

 

[dramatis]

If they time the press conference right before the debate, maybe they could direct what the questions asked at the debate would be

 

[Plinko]

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_PA_083016/

PA

Clinton 48
Trump 40
Johnson 6
Stein 1

McGinty 45
Toomey 41

Edit: Beaten!

I don't see how Trump can turn this one around. PA is gone.

With PA gone, what does Trump need to win? Florida and Ohio?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

So they might not be useful but you still have to do them? That's like the definition of useless ritual

Let her stand up there and keep giving the exact same rad-ass answer she gave to Anderson until they stop asking.

Obama neutralizes nonsense right and left in press conferences.

It's an OPPORTUNITY to derail stupid witch hunts and her refusal to take part in them literally fuels every stupid nothing burger getting thrown at her.

Infuriating AND avoidable.

 

[Fox318]

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Keepin' It 1600 said that it normally wouldn't be a problem not holding a press conference, just at this point they probably should just to say they've had one.

I don't believe obama really had many, if any in 2012.

Let her stand up there and keep giving the exact same rad-ass answer she gave to Anderson until they stop asking.

Obama neutralizes nonsense right and left in press conferences.

It's an OPPORTUNITY to derail stupid witch hunts and her refusal to take part in them literally fuels every stupid nothing burger getting thrown at her.

Infuriating AND avoidable.

They've had at least 3-4 press conferences on the emails, benghazi testimony, FBI notes, the emails released, hundreds of reponses in one-on-ones.

They're not gonna stop. Why should she give a press conference on emails? She's done them and they'res nothing new

 

[Emarv]

Can someone really point to a press conference that really reveals something revelatory? I seriously can not really think of one. Investigative reporting does, press conferences are some weird ritualistic thing that makes people believe that this proves people are accountable to the press.

the best possible outcome of a press conference would be more weiner jokes from howard sterns people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdU56DzcwM

Trump's press conferences have revealed some interesting stuff. Like how Jim Acosta is a real beauty!


Press conferences can be valuable to stump figures or at least make them think out loud. Dickerson getting Bush to reflect on mistakes is a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haQzdW7hg4A

 

[whyamihere]

I don't see how Trump can turn this one around. PA is gone.

With PA gone, what does Trump need to win? Florida and Ohio?

Safe blue states + VA + CO + WI = 269. He'd need to win all swing states + NE-02 to get 270.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Can you really blame them for not holding any though? It's going to be 100% e-mails, foundation bullshit, and questions about Huma's marriage.



If you give 3 reporters the same answer to a question odds are they'll each have a unique follow up based on their own reporting. There's definitely situations where everyone would want to ask the same question though.

It just rarely seems to work out that way. Press conferences, by their very nature, are chaotic. It's easy for a politician to hide in that chaos. I think a more apt criticism of Clinton is that she has not done enough one-on-one interviews (Cooper's was the first in a while) and that she has limited the traveling press' access in general.

Keepin' It 1600 said that it normally wouldn't be a problem not holding a press conference, just at this point they probably should just to say they've had one.

If she's going to do one at all, it's got to happen Friday, right? If she doesn't do one on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, it's not happening. I think she should have done one during the Olympics and got it over with.

 

[Plinko]

Safe blue states + VA + CO + WI = 269. He'd need to win all swing states + NE-02 to get 270.

We all know VA isn't happening.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Look, I understand why Clinton isn't having press conferences and it's a good move strategically. But there is a reason for them and it's not the same as a press gaggle.

 

[Basileus777]

Safe blue states + VA + CO + WI = 269. He'd need to win all swing states + NE-02 to get 270.

Michigan or bust baby.

 

[whyamihere]

We all know VA isn't happening.

If she wins NH, she wins. She could lose OH and FL.

 

[Plinko]

Michigan or bust baby.

So unless there is a drastic surprise, Hillary is going to be president, because Michigan isn't happening for GOP this time around.

 

[B-Dubs]

We all know VA isn't happening.

Really? I thought the polling in VA was really good.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Michigan or bust baby.

Does michigan have enought white people to overcome trumps unfavorables with non-whites and college-educated?

 

[B-Dubs]

Does michigan have enought white people to overcome trumps unfavorables with non-whites and college-educated?

Nope. It'll turn at some point in the future, probably around the time Texas finally does, but it's not turning this cycle.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

We all know VA isn't happening.

Virginia? Not happening for Clinton?

Isn't she up double digits?

 

[Basileus777]

So unless there is a drastic surprise, Hillary is going to be president, because Michigan isn't happening for GOP this time around.

Essentially. Trump needs to win PA or MI and those are really unlikely.

Does michigan have enought white people to overcome trumps unfavorables with non-whites and college-educated?

Not unless there is some crazy change in turnout. (There won't be)

Really? I thought the polling in VA was really good.

I'm pretty sure he meant it is unlikely for Trump.

 

[lenovox1]

It's an OPPORTUNITY to derail stupid witch hunts and her refusal to take part in them literally fuels every stupid nothing burger getting thrown at her.

Infuriating AND avoidable.

Boy, Clinton has played this game since the early 90s. She knows this.

She has a deep distrust of the press and believes that they are against her and will turn something innocuous into a big deal. She will not be doing any press conferences at this point in the campaign unless there is a crisis.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Does michigan have enought white people to overcome trumps unfavorables with non-whites and college-educated?

Michigan is 80% white! Time to make Detroit white again, baby.

 

[Y2Kev]

I think the way the Serious Press has covered the Weiner thing is legitimately disgusting. How dare these bastions of liberal (lowercase l) western values frame this in such a clearly sexist and heteronormative way.

Fuck the NYT. Embarrassing.

 

[whyamihere]

Maine (4)
Vermont (3)
Massachusetts (11)
Rhode Island (4)
Connecticut (7)
New York (29)
Pennsylvania (20)
New Jersey (14)
Delaware (3)
Maryland (10)
DC (3)
Virginia (13)
Michigan (16)
Illinois (20)
Wisconsin (10)
Minnesota (10)
New Mexico (5)
Colorado (9)
California (55)
Oregon (7)
Washington (12)
= 269 (268 if you don't think she has ME-02 locked up)

Pick another swing state and she has it, if she wins all of those.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Boy, Clinton has played this game since the early 90s. She knows this.

She has a deep distrust of the press and believes that they are against her and will turn something innocuous into a big deal. She will not be doing any press conferences at this point in the campaign unless there is a crisis.

lmao

"Boy"??

 

[balladofwindfishes]

She has a deep distrust of the press and believes that they are against her and will turn something innocuous into a big deal.

I don't think these fears are entirely unfounded. This year has proven that pretty clearly.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I don't think these fears are entirely unfounded. This year has proven that pretty clearly.

Obama and Bobby Gibbs got crazy shit from the press in the early days too.

CJ Cregg never backed down, even when she had to punch a wall or two.

Avoiding press conferences just reinforces the narrative that you have something to hide.

 

[nature boy]

And since she's leading, she really doesn't feel the need to do a press conference.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

And since she's leading, she really doesn't feel the need to do a press conference.

So she does one if the polls start to dip and then the story is that's the only reason she wants to "expose herself"?

Such a stupid position for her campaign to take.

 

[whyamihere]

The other problem with doing a press conference now is that the story becomes about how she's doing a press conference.

(I think she should bite the bullet and do one)

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

The other problem with doing a press conference now is that the story becomes about how she's doing a press conference.

(I think she should bite the bullet and do one)

1600 podcast had a good point about that, and that if she starts doing small daily press availabilities, it diminishes the story of her having a PC

 

[Diablos]

If there's any swing state Trump could pick off it would be MI, I would think.

OH Senate numbers are cause for concern. How does Strickland suck so bad that Hillary is poised to win the state while Dems are giving up on him? Just doesn't seem right...

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

1600 podcast had a good point about that, and that if she starts doing small daily press availabilities, it diminishes the story of her having a PC

Seriously. This.

 

[whyamihere]

1600 podcast had a good point about that, and that if she starts doing small daily press availabilities, it diminishes the story of her having a PC

That's a good idea.

 

[lenovox1]

So she does one if the polls start to dip and then the story is that's the only reason she wants to "expose herself"?

Such a stupid position for her campaign to take.

The other problem with doing a press conference now is that the story becomes about how she's doing a press conference.

(I think she should bite the bullet and do one)

I don't think this is something any demographic other than white moderates and white independents (+Trump voters, of course) actually care about.

Not to discount an entire demographic, but absolutely none of this will matter after the September debates.

BenjaminBirdie, you should know more than anyone that if this was an issue effecting her polling figures, she already would have many press conferences. No one really cares, except for the press.

 

[Retro]

Hillary Quiet.
He always has foot in mouth.
Why ruin good thing?

 

[Plinko]

Really? I thought the polling in VA was really good.

Virginia? Not happening for Clinton?

Isn't she up double digits?

The poster responded that Trump needed Virginia. My response was that wasn't happening. Clinton has that locked down thanks to Big Daddy T-Kaine.

 

[nature boy]

So she does one if the polls start to dip and then the story is that's the only reason she wants to "expose herself"?

Such a stupid position for her campaign to take.

Like it or not, it's working for them. The more controlled the message is, the less risk of a blunder.

If she's +5 nationally and on path to win, what benefits are there to a press conference? Are voters demanding a press conference? Will this significantly change her favorables? How many voters will she persuade by doing a press conference, when she's up?

It's political calculus plain and simple, I don't blame them for not doing press conferences, Trump doesn't release his tax returns which is far more important than a press conference.

 

[Wilsongt]

Oh boy. Remember that terrible blackface picture the pastor tweeted yesterday?

During a Tuesday morning appearance on Fox News, Burns acknowledged that “the blackface imagery has been used in the past and it is offensive to African Americans, but my message, I stand behind it.”
He said “the real offense” is that many minority families in America “don’t know where their next meal is coming from.”

Fox News host Martha MacCullum then suggested Burns made a good point with his blackface tweet, saying he “used that blackface, which you explained, to say that you thought that she, in this case, is pandering to black voters.”

MacCullum told Burns she “thought it was interesting” that the media wanted to ask him about “the blackface part” of his tweet, but not “the underlying stuff of what you’re talking about — the violence that exists in our inner cities, the fact that more black people are killed my members of their own black community in our inner cities, that that is the issue that plagues them more than any other.” She then read a quote from Trump before Burns jumped back in and accused liberals of “playing the race card.”

 

[Teggy]

Something I wasn't aware about until yesterday was that neither candidate allows the press to travel with them on their planes and that has not happened before.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Oh boy. Remember that terrible blackface picture the pastor tweeted yesterday?

This seems to have really exploded. It was just on MSNBC.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

SUCH A STUPID POSITION

HILLARY IS SUCH A DUMB CANDIDATE. SO STUPID.

WHY DOESN'T ROBBIE MOOK LISTEN TO ME? DOESN'T ROBBIE MOOK KNOW I'M SMARTER THAN HIM?

UGH. DUMB.

 

[AndyD]

Let her stand up there and keep giving the exact same rad-ass answer she gave to Anderson until they stop asking.

Obama neutralizes nonsense right and left in press conferences.

It's an OPPORTUNITY to derail stupid witch hunts and her refusal to take part in them literally fuels every stupid nothing burger getting thrown at her.

Infuriating AND avoidable.

This is my approach on this too. So what if it's junk questions, let her respond and confront the media on it. Or do small scale appearances. 2-3 reporters at a time from different places not dozens.

 

[Fenderputty]

They aren't having fun as much as they are shamelessly self-promoting. I would rather polling companies get recognized by the quality of their polls rather than their shitty prop polls.

They've been on point for quite some time regarding their polling and have been recognized as such.

It's hurting polling, tells us nothing, and actively makes peoples true views more obscure. It hurts polling and only gives fodder for stupid message board jokes and false moral superiority

I agree it tell us nothing, they're joke polls after all, but I don't understand how it hurts polling as a whole.

It only inflates the narrative of the most manipulative and evil representatives of the right: Liberals think you're stupid backwards idiots and they're laughing at you.

Polls like this are what get reporters spit on and worse at Trump rallies.

But, yes, please, lets let PPP have "fun". I'm totally sure a reporter won't be murdered by the time all this is through.

I mean you just used the most massive snowball ever that ended with a reporter getting murdered because PPP is poking fun at people who think things they shouldn't be thinking.


I guess I appreciate some levity right now. This election has been pretty depressing in general.