Pretty much, after another email or Clinton Foundation non-story picks up steam, she drops in polls, but Trump doesn't pick up any extra support.
Leaners just get pissed off at Hillary and spite her in the polls for a while.
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Pretty much, after another email or Clinton Foundation non-story picks up steam, she drops in polls, but Trump doesn't pick up any extra support.
Leaners just get pissed off at Hillary and spite her in the polls for a while.
BlastProcessing
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These people know their shit and have access to the referral data. They have known what NeoGAF is for a while.
RustyNails
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Pretty much. The numbers will solidify after the debates and there's more to cover. Right now Trump hasn't done anything too insane lately and there's not much going on, so we're getting Foundation stories.
Hillary as she came across PD's fanfics
Oh snaps
nature boy
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The Lamonster
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Neogaf whaaat?
(At GAF being the #5 referar to Clinton's website)
what the crap, this is hilarious!!!
RustyNails
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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/us/politics/donald-trump-mexico.amp.html
Just for 50 minutes!!! What, you orange faced clown!
Finale Fireworker
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I really hope she drops her GAF name.
NO NO NO, WAIT--- in her next speech: "Donald Trump just shot himself in the foot. I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture..."
The Lamonster
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Someone should make a thread in the OT.
NeoGAF being in the top five referrers to Clinton's site is a big deal.
edit: welp. lol
NeoGAF being in the top five referrers to Clinton's site is a big deal.
edit: welp. lol
Press conferences have been a customary part of presidential campaigns for good reason. It is a type of interaction with the press with which the campaign has the least control. Sit down interviews and the like often have ground rules and negotiations for access. It's an important test for the candidate and voters get a better less filtered view of thier responses to questions.
The fact that Hillary has gone 270+ days without a press conference is something that she should be criticized for. It is a move towards less and less transparency and access that voters need to make good decisions.
The fact that Hillary has gone 270+ days without a press conference is something that she should be criticized for. It is a move towards less and less transparency and access that voters need to make good decisions.
Trump can't even be bothered to spend a full hour in Mexico. I spent more time in Philly on my last trip to DC.
BlastProcessing
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A national network interview doesn't really have ground rules or negotiations. The only points up for negotiation are location and length.
I wonder how much that 50 minutes will cost the american taxpayer.
RustyNails
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This isnt anything other than publicity stunt.
Not sure but that's BAD. That's a huge drop. What the fuck.
The negative press must really be hurting Hillary.
I know, it's just funny that he can't even be bothered to spend a couple of hours there and try and make this look like it isn't a publicity stunt.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The race is tightening. It is. Not a huge deal. Not Diablos-time, but it is tightening.
That may not mean a big deal for the presidential race at this point, but it definitely could be huge for the House and Senate.
That may not mean a big deal for the presidential race at this point, but it definitely could be huge for the House and Senate.
PantherLotus
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I know that MotherJones.com profile of Trump supporters went around here a few times, but this photo is not getting the recognition it deserves.
This photo by Stacy Kranitz, deserves a Pulitzer. Look at it. Let it wash over you. Look at the pain, the embarrassment, the poverty, the laziness, the hypocrisy. Feel the judgmental gaze of the onlooker, hear the underfed and neglected mutts (and apparently dangerous enough to warrant three signs!) barking over the chirp of anonymous swarm of swamp bugs, smell the weeds, the dust, the stench of the trash, the rotting animal nest underneath that woodpile.
I don't know where you're from, but that could be anywhere in the country that has trees. That could be in a suburb of any town north or east of Dallas all the way up to Maine. I've been to that place, smoked weed with kids from that place, have family or family of family that lives in places like those. I hadn't considered it before, but maybe I should, and maybe you should: this Trump thing is not going away soon -- not after November, not after Hillary.
These are all symptoms of a much larger disease, of societal breakdown, of Anywheretown, USA community breakdown. Look at this photo, man. Look.
This photo by Stacy Kranitz, deserves a Pulitzer. Look at it. Let it wash over you. Look at the pain, the embarrassment, the poverty, the laziness, the hypocrisy. Feel the judgmental gaze of the onlooker, hear the underfed and neglected mutts (and apparently dangerous enough to warrant three signs!) barking over the chirp of anonymous swarm of swamp bugs, smell the weeds, the dust, the stench of the trash, the rotting animal nest underneath that woodpile.
I don't know where you're from, but that could be anywhere in the country that has trees. That could be in a suburb of any town north or east of Dallas all the way up to Maine. I've been to that place, smoked weed with kids from that place, have family or family of family that lives in places like those. I hadn't considered it before, but maybe I should, and maybe you should: this Trump thing is not going away soon -- not after November, not after Hillary.
These are all symptoms of a much larger disease, of societal breakdown, of Anywheretown, USA community breakdown. Look at this photo, man. Look.
i think the issue with hillary's numbers are that she hasn't really done much since the convention. there was the alt-right speech, and the outlining of the mental health agenda. trump's a loser, but there's only one rally for hillary's campaign scheduled through october and it's tim kaine.
and it seems she does better when there are more popular people stumping for her: biden, obama, sanders, bill clinton - are they going to campaign soon? it feels like august was a month of complacency for the clinton campaign.
and it seems she does better when there are more popular people stumping for her: biden, obama, sanders, bill clinton - are they going to campaign soon? it feels like august was a month of complacency for the clinton campaign.
The problem is that we realize that it is a publicity stunt but the media wont report it as such. The average viewer might see it as a sign that turd is being respected and can handle reaching out to foreign leaders. It is disgraceful how he has not just gotten away with insults and spreading xenophobia but also for lying an incredible amount of times. The media generally doesn't call them out or even challenge his projections. He is the most insecure, cowardly and ignorant turd to have ever existed and I can't shake off the depressing realization that a large number of people in this country will vote for this depraved shit.
I do agree, this isn't going anywhere for a while. That's why this election needs to be a curbstomping, so we can at least show people that Trump's rhetoric is not OK. If there was any justice in the world he'd lose pretty much every state.
AntraxSuicide
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My favorite part of that release is when they say he'll land at 3 PM local time (one hour before Eastern time) instead of just saying Central time.
Skiptastic
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thezerofire
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So Trump is going to meet with the President of Mexico and still mention that he wants Mexico to pay for his wall? How is that possibly a good idea?
DataStream
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So GafPAC? Seems like we have some political capital to burn lol.
BlastProcessing
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I know that MotherJones.com profile of Trump supporters went around here a few times, but this photo is not getting the recognition it deserves.
This photo by Stacy Kranitz, deserves a Pulitzer. Look at it. Let it wash over you. Look at the pain, the embarrassment, the poverty, the laziness, the hypocrisy. Feel the judgmental gaze of the onlooker, hear the underfed and neglected mutts (and apparently dangerous enough to warrant three signs!) barking over the chirp of anonymous swarm of swamp bugs, smell the weeds, the dust, the stench of the trash, the rotting animal nest underneath that woodpile.
I don't know where you're from, but that could be anywhere in the country that has trees. That could be in a suburb of any town north or east of Dallas all the way up to Maine. I've been to that place, smoked weed with kids from that place, have family or family of family that lives in places like those. I hadn't considered it before, but maybe I should, and maybe you should: this Trump thing is not going away soon -- not after November, not after Hillary.
These are all symptoms of a much larger disease, of societal breakdown, of Anywheretown, USA community breakdown. Look at this photo, man. Look.
The data doesn't exactly support that claim.
WaPo said:
What you are talking about is an element of Trump's coalition, but it's not the dominant force. The problem with reporting like the Mother Jones piece is that it's backwards. Reporters are going to places where they assume Trump's base is and looking for people to interview. Then we assume the ones they find are representative of the majority of his support.
We've joked about it before.
Roland_Gunner
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I've defended Nate S here quite a bit but some of positions are just baffling. Like this:
How can you look at these two charts and say that the campaigns are roughly the same probability?
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
How can you look at these two charts and say that the campaigns are roughly the same probability?
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
PantherLotus
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My point was not about the dominant part of Trump's coalition (of which I'm certainly aware, though I think the data overstates the case of suburban racists) but was instead pointing to the hypocrisy of THAT sign posted in THAT yard. And all of the things unsaid in between. I don't know, it just struck me is all.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Thatcher's part of the chart here...
Going up means inequality is getting more extreme, going right means that the poor are getting better off (which can happen with or without inequality increasing or decreasing).
Thatcher's part of the chart is a straight line upwards.
Going up means inequality is getting more extreme, going right means that the poor are getting better off (which can happen with or without inequality increasing or decreasing).
Thatcher's part of the chart is a straight line upwards.
The crazy fluctuations in the race are what is driving the uncertainty in 2016. That's why the probabilities seem similar but at any given second it seems way different.
AntraxSuicide
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I know it's unintentional, but this description comes off a little classist to me. Like, as a poor person by Mississippi standards, most of my family lived (or lives) in places that looked like that house. And it's not really laziness that leads to that appearance; hell, most people don't realize how nice it is to even afford a lawn mower (my family got our first one when I was in high school) or the time/energy to use it (my single mother worked 12 hour night shifts in a medical clinic an hour away, so until my brother and I were old enough to cut the grass, we wouldn't have had a maintained lawn even with a lawn mower).
This level of poverty still exists here, and I can vouch that I definitely felt "the judgemental gaze of the onlookers" a lot growing up.
Thatcher's part of the chart here...
Going up means inequality is getting more extreme, going right means that the poor are getting better off (which can happen with or without inequality increasing or decreasing).
Thatcher's part of the chart is a straight line upwards.
It's because that lane is not for turning
Dominican Power
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I don't even know what's the point of this meeting. Peña Nieto is an idiot.
I know that MotherJones.com profile of Trump supporters went around here a few times, but this photo is not getting the recognition it deserves.
This photo by Stacy Kranitz, deserves a Pulitzer. Look at it. Let it wash over you. Look at the pain, the embarrassment, the poverty, the laziness, the hypocrisy. Feel the judgmental gaze of the onlooker, hear the underfed and neglected mutts (and apparently dangerous enough to warrant three signs!) barking over the chirp of anonymous swarm of swamp bugs, smell the weeds, the dust, the stench of the trash, the rotting animal nest underneath that woodpile.
I don't know where you're from, but that could be anywhere in the country that has trees. That could be in a suburb of any town north or east of Dallas all the way up to Maine. I've been to that place, smoked weed with kids from that place, have family or family of family that lives in places like those. I hadn't considered it before, but maybe I should, and maybe you should: this Trump thing is not going away soon -- not after November, not after Hillary.
These are all symptoms of a much larger disease, of societal breakdown, of Anywheretown, USA community breakdown. Look at this photo, man. Look.
Husband and I drove 3600 miles in a 9-day period this month, from the Deep South to the Great Lakes through the Midwest, and then back down through Baltimore and along Appalachia. This is typical of the rural landscape everywhere. It's visually striking, and made me depressed. We'd get to a city - Nashville, Cincinnati, etc - and the mood and visuals were different. It was positive, hopeful, even playful. But not rural America (and we have plenty of family whose places look like this, my folks in the swamp, his in Mississippi).
Even worse is that the older residents of those rural areas still remember when their town cores were quaint and fresh and pleasant, instead of the abandoned husks that remain today after being replaced by Wal-Mart, etc. Rural America is hurting, and having to stare at that kind of visually degraded environment probably doesn't help the mood.
I'm betting that once late September hits, she's going to be accompanied by someone popular for the vast majority of her appearances. Their popularity seems to have rubbed-off on her a bit from the convention, and the campaign probably knows it. They can lift her to a point where this race isn't really a 2000/2004-style close finish.
BlastProcessing
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Personally, I think it's almost impossible to overestimate suburban racism in the US. That picture looks exactly like the small Texas town I grew up in. It could be my Mema's house (who bought me and my brother "Ollie North for President shirts") or my best friends place. I guess that's the reason that pic didn't affect me much. It doesn't even register as a particularly impoverished house. Maybe I already internalized that hypocrisy 30 years ago.
The Technomancer
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Neogaf whaaat?
(At GAF being the #5 referar to Clinton's website)
I just saw this, that's fucking hilarious, although some people think there might be a bias in how they collect their data
Dubbedinenglish
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There probably some campaign staffer going through this thread like " there's something wrong with these people"
Keep up the good work
Spoiled Milk
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Trump speaking to Nieto now, probably.
Or worse, it's Huma and she sees the thirst on display a couple of days ago.
Edit: or Mook of the read poligayf posts
i'm waiting for " and President Nieto considered paying for the wall"
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
No, that classcism you are feeling is intentional, though it's coming from a place of deep self-identification. I know these people and I am desperately trying to avoid anyone ever finding out that I come from that place.
We could argue about the semantics of laziness, which is what the profile took head on, but one could certainly admit it doesn't take money to try a little harder. You can see it by looking at that rotting woodpile, by the haphazard lawn furniture left wherever it was last used.
I know that feeling, is all. And I know these people and I know they are deeply bigoted, hypocritical people whose homes look like this while they live in fear of black people whose home also look like this, just with fewer trees.
This is so true. You could go 5-6-7 miles in any direction in ANY metro area and find this house, and entire counties full of gravel roads leading up to 'streets' lined with these things. It is deeply unsettling and I think a real break in society that has to be addressed.
Fair. I too have internalized it but have built subconscious walls to forget about it. This is a harsh reminder and if you look around, everyone you know knows people that live in places like this.
The American liberal press, in falling over themselves to defend Hillary Clinton, are erecting a demon that is going to put nooses around everyones necks as soon as she wins the election, which is almost certainly what shes going to do, Assange said in the interview, which was broadcast live Wednesday on Facebook.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-me...ts-demon-hillary-clinton-227597#ixzz4IwF7OLWV
Somebody arrest this rapist already.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-me...ts-demon-hillary-clinton-227597#ixzz4IwF7OLWV
Somebody arrest this rapist already.
NYCmetsfan
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Hahaha I met an intercept writer that knows about GAF this weekend. They're were atttacked by gamergate so it wasn't too surprising, didn't mention poligaf and ItWasntMeantToBe19 though
Gaming side is pretty damn prominent on the web
For those asking, THIS gif is 100% what Mexico is feeling right now:
Comes from Pictoline.com, which has become the de facto voice of Mexicans online for many current issues and pop culture.
Comes from Pictoline.com, which has become the de facto voice of Mexicans online for many current issues and pop culture.
Black Mamba
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I read this as completely the opposite. It's a bad sign for Trump, not Hillary.
Trump appears to have a real ceiling. Hillary's numbers seem to be afftected by other things.
The way I see it is Hilary is up around 5-7 points, but when Trump does something really stupid (like argue with the Khans) and the media is in full attack mode, his supporters (or at least soft supporters) are less likely participate in polls, similar to a convention bounce.
The real key is that more people than ever believe Hillary is going to defeat Trump and if that number keeps going up, that will lead to a blowout.
NYCmetsfan
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How though, its either subsidies (which they're already getting in terms of foodstamps and welfare) or relocation. Until we really have internet everywhere which I think could actually alleviate the problem if we had the education that went a long with it.
Manual rural jobs aren't coming back.
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