The jury may still be out on whether this a net positive or negative for Trump, (my bet is on it probably being a net nothing), but I think it's safe to say Pena definitely came out looking worse after this.
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The jury may still be out on whether this a net positive or negative for Trump, (my bet is on it probably being a net nothing), but I think it's safe to say Pena definitely came out looking worse after this.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I think he'll gladly do as much as the campaign wants him to, honestly.
Ironically, what I question is how effective or useful he is now. Like I said earlier, I feel like he's been chewed up and spit out like an old meme already by the bulk of his primary support.
Again we know this is just to appeal to white moderates. Minorities know who Trump is because he's been the same person.
Black won't forget the shit he's said and done. Hell didn't he just cancel his thing in detriot at the black church?
Hispanics will never forget the language used and Muslims won't forget. This is all an appeal to white moderates.
I have some news from the inside that Trump's (south) Florida ground game is nonexistent. They are apparently in the "recruitment" phase... and have been for the past month with no improvements. There's currently no one who knows data analytics, but there is an old guy who expressed interest in starting to learn about it who will then teach other people once he learns. They do have lots of meetings at restaurants, though!
Source: disappointing to me and now disappointed themselves family members trying to volunteer for the nonexistent Trump campaign
RastaMentality
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I hope Mexican media grills the fuck out of Peña for this. He embarrassed the fuck out of the country.
User 463088
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Chuck Todd grew a pair! Who knew!?
And the media is showing his previous comments and contrasting them to now. Which is exactly what we want to happen. Because it proves this whole thing was a stupid stunt.
OH GOD Jan Brewer.
UGH.
And the media is showing his previous comments and contrasting them to now. Which is exactly what we want to happen. Because it proves this whole thing was a stupid stunt.
OH GOD Jan Brewer.
UGH.
User 463088
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Trump had a bobby pin in his hair.
And my local news is actually saying this was a stunt to cover up for the shit he said during the race.
My feelings basically.
Like, it was the ONE thing I was not expecting Nieto to do.
This won't play well with Trump's base, but it's silly if any you gals thought that pleasing his base was the point of this trip, unless you thought Trump was going to go there and shit talk Nieto to his face (which, let's be real, would have been the only thing he could have done to please his base here).
This was about appearing to moderate. Whether or not it's successful, surprised Nieto played into it.
Also, Hillary should NOT attack him over this. At least, not yet. Like it or not, Even if we see right through it, meeting with the Mexican president and appearing to reach common ground is the kind of thing legit candidates should and would be doing. Normally, this would be a good thing. So if Hillary attacks him now, she runs the risk of looking petty.
Hillary should ignore this, pivot to her positive message, and hit him on his NAFTA flip-flopping at the debate.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
You just know how Rachel's show is going to go tonight.
-- Open with Mexican Cartel video from the early 80s
-- Tie in the KGB takeover of the Kremlin
-- now lace in a worldwide Ailes-led takeover of conservative media
-- now drop in goofy EPN presidency and popularity
-- marry EPN and Trump's shared facism, shady backgrounds, and wild unpopularity before showing Trump wiggling on stage like a child
: cut to commercial :
-- Open with Mexican Cartel video from the early 80s
-- Tie in the KGB takeover of the Kremlin
-- now lace in a worldwide Ailes-led takeover of conservative media
-- now drop in goofy EPN presidency and popularity
-- marry EPN and Trump's shared facism, shady backgrounds, and wild unpopularity before showing Trump wiggling on stage like a child
: cut to commercial :
Thank you for posting actual data rather than #optics.
whyamihere
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Yeah, after thinking about it, this was probably a net positive for Trump that might not matter in the long run. I have no idea what Nieto was thinking.
That was like super nothing. Not even good optics. The only soundbite that will exist in a day or two is a looping Vine of Trump forcefully saying Mexico will pay for the wall then him sounding like a pussy saying it wasn't even discussed. Meanwhile Hillary is addressing a pivotal demographic in an important swing state and NC is having their early voting time close to doubled and made easier.
That he's massively unpopular and will need a new job soon?
Joe Shlabotnik
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WaPo says Nieto didn't expect either of them to accept so I assume he just shat his pants, basically.
User 463088
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I tend to view an event through local media's eyes. Like, that's the way most people get their news, really. And...my local news basically said it was a stunt to try and walk back the things he's said before...and then they proceeded to show the racist shit he said in the past. Then, they mentioned that Trump basically said the opposite on a lot of these things last week when they spoke with him. And they're totally done with it. They spent more time talking about Hillary's speech today than this.
The ONE thing local media kept hitting is that Mexico didn't agree to pay for the wall. That was the takeaway.
The ONE thing local media kept hitting is that Mexico didn't agree to pay for the wall. That was the takeaway.
Finale Fireworker
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He can work at a Trump Hotel.
AntraxSuicide
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We literally have Steve King of all people saying that he can work with Clinton.
This country is just plain racist. Lots of racists. Iknow quiteafew Republicans, and while they all hate Hillary, they all say that she's just shady or whatever. They call Obama an anti-American traitor. Sexism is also big here, but not to the degree that racism is. The GOP base views Hillary as a "bad American" while they see Obama as a Muslim infiltrator.
Also, I don't really see the difference between change coming through the Courts or through Congress. Both are government institutions with minimal input from the populace if we're being honest.
Spoiled Milk
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Well, she already acknowledged this and made a comment.
What did she say?
User 463088
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https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/771085033943818245
But, I'm guessing a lot of this rapid response is from what they assume his speech will be tonight.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/771037992811163648
And this too
whyamihere
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Yeah, that makes sense. I imagine this will be nothing in the long run and be overshadowed by his immigration speech.
Mexicans are loving Hillary's Twitter list. Several news sites have translated the entire thing and sharing the hell out of it.
But yeah, I don't think she will attack Trump for going and meeting with Peña. She will simply keep reminding people what he already has said, and Trump didn't do or say anything that even resembles an apology to Mexicans or for his comments. He even doubled down on the wall in front of him!
I'm glad to see the rest of the world is seeing our President, Peña Nieto, for what he is.
To reiterate;
This won't even be in the news cycle next Monday, especially with a hurricane coming.
That's great though, sums it up perfectly.
This won't even be in the news cycle next Monday, especially with a hurricane coming.
lol
That's great though, sums it up perfectly.
Dubbedinenglish
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You knows it's funny how whenever Trump is next to an actual person in power he seems small.
Is this proof that Trump is dyeing?!
User 463088
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The ink blot one is visually interesting, especially because of the way it subtly reinforces the idea that he's fucking crazy.
VendettaRed07
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Keep jobs in our "hemisphere" he says
I'm sorry, I thought that it was Mexico, not Asia, that was taking all of our jobs. Why does he care if they get jobs from Asia anyway? Weren't we supposed to bring them all back here FROM Mexico?
I'm sorry, I thought that it was Mexico, not Asia, that was taking all of our jobs. Why does he care if they get jobs from Asia anyway? Weren't we supposed to bring them all back here FROM Mexico?
PantherLotus
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/new-york-times-cloud-shadow-clinton-coverage
ho ho ho HOLY shit lol
ho ho ho HOLY shit lol
A quick search doesn't give a specific origin, but a wikipedia article mentions it being used in 1984 by the former head of the EPA under Reagan when he was going to appoint her as head of NOAA.
I wonder if it came about because of Wendy's "Where's the Beef" ad (which ran in the same year, actually).
Either way, when you've got a story that sounds juicy but turns out to have no meat at all, that's a burger with no meat, and thus not a burger at all.
I'm not clicking any of your links anymore. Fool me once, shame on shame on you. Fool me you can't get fooled again.
Spoiled Milk
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What are you: a cuck?
nature boy
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CMON FOX NEWS
User 463088
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Nice calm before the OMG PANIC! OMG WE'RE GOING TO DIEEEEEEE of the Fox News poll.
User 463088
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nm I'm a stupid.
Yes. He's only speaking to a pastor in private.
User 463088
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He's still going to the church service. As in, he's sitting in a pew. He's not speaking to anyone. Then, he's going to be interviewed in private for the TV show. No media allowed. And the interview will air in a few weeks.
He really needs to get more blowback from this. He never spoke to the NAACP when they invited him. Even if it was rhetorical. At least today you can say he went to Mexico to try and appeal to them.
This man hasn't made a single effort to make inroads with black voters.
He's good at shaming them in front of White voters though.
User 463088
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He visited an entirely different country before giving a speech to a group that wasn't essentially 99% white. And he's still not going to talk at the church, just sit there. Maybe they can read from Two Corinthians.
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