He doubled down on his negative rhetoric. Did he actually saw the rest of the speech???
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He doubled down on his negative rhetoric. Did he actually saw the rest of the speech???
Doc Holliday
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Hah, forgot about that one. Of course the host just completely lets him go and plays along as if what Hugh said made sense.
Well, yeah. Because I think Hillary needs to switch to a positive message in general, but especially now. That speech was something else.
I completely agree.
Trump's ceiling is low. Hillary's sliding numbers are the only reason the polls tightened, so she needs to just get out there and start promoting herself in a positive light. Her surrogates are going to help tremendously in that regard, but her campaign needs to make the affirmative case for her presidency.
User 463088
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Now the President of Mexico just said that some of the things Trump just said were a threat to the nation of Mexico.
Officerrob
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Too late Nieto, you got played
gonna look too little, too late, Neito.
Basileus777
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It looks like Trump played himself.
Dominican Power
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This shit head Hugh Hewitt tries to spin everything in Trump's favor. I wanna punch his smug face.
metalslimer
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Lol what an idiot. This would be like if Obama had personally invited Netanyahu to speak to congress.
That's the only job of a Trump surrogate, is to wash his balls constantly and make him not look like a total buffoon.
I used to think this until last week, when the media made it clear that all Trump needs to do is say one word for them to jump in with a "Both Sides!!!" portrayal.
If Hillary continues attacking Trump, Trump will just retaliate; and even if Trump's response makes not a damn lick of sense the media will portray it as both sides being in the mud.
And honestly I think a "both sides!" portrayal hurts Hillary more than it hurts Trump.
When you're in the mud and can't crawl out of it, the best thing you can do is get your opponent down in the mud with you.
Officerrob
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I'm looking at it purely from a Nieto point of view. He fucked-up massively today, and some tweets are not going to fix it
User 85168
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Speaking as someone who's in the US legally who would've been deported under his plan, I was severely disgusted and felt discouraged about my future here. There are so many people with pure hatred for someone like me, whom they've never met, spoken to, and etc. Sigh.
Zero dimensional chess.
PlayALLtheGames
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Trump before Mexico: "Mexico is going to pay for that wall and like it!"
Trump in Mexico: "We didn't discuss who is paying for the wall."
Trump a few hours later in Arizona: "They don't know it yet but Mexico is paying for that wall 100%."
What a fucking clown. It's like a kid shadow punching behind someone's back and they turn around and he starts looking around, whistling, then they turn back around and he starts shadow punching again. Complete fraud and wannabe tough guy.
Trump in Mexico: "We didn't discuss who is paying for the wall."
Trump a few hours later in Arizona: "They don't know it yet but Mexico is paying for that wall 100%."
What a fucking clown. It's like a kid shadow punching behind someone's back and they turn around and he starts looking around, whistling, then they turn back around and he starts shadow punching again. Complete fraud and wannabe tough guy.
It's amazing. He literally changes what he says depending on the crowd.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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This is the first time in weeks that I have paid attention to Trump, and he looked absolutely bonkers, rambling on about biometric visas and sensors above and below his wall. What he proposed to fight illegal fucking immigration is basically the equivalent of Reagan's Star Wars program - which, I might remind everybody, was an abject failure that arguably prolonged the Cold War by emboldening Soviet hardliners a few more years.
Peña Nieto is furiously backpedaling right now during a live interview on national tv.
He says Trump's tone "is not the same as during his meeting" and he's "aware of the anger about his meeting with Trump". "A lot of Trump's ideas are a danger to Mexico".
You got played Nieto, you fool. Whatever he says right now will look cowardly because he didn't say it to Trump's face.
He even blamed disorganization at the press conference for his lack of attacks on Trump!!
He says Trump's tone "is not the same as during his meeting" and he's "aware of the anger about his meeting with Trump". "A lot of Trump's ideas are a danger to Mexico".
You got played Nieto, you fool. Whatever he says right now will look cowardly because he didn't say it to Trump's face.
He even blamed disorganization at the press conference for his lack of attacks on Trump!!
Officerrob
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Nobody understood what the fuck Nieto was doing, sheer incompetence. The Mexican people have every right to be pissed
Really, New York Times? You're calling this a pivot?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
ItWasMeantToBe19
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More Jews would have been killed in the 1930s with political reporters like these:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html?_r=0
Spiritreaver
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Oh wow, going by here and Twitter it looks like I missed an amazing speech.
We're installing Trump countermeasures in him as we speak.
Nieto played himself. All he had to do was kick Trump's ass and he couldn't even be bothered to try.
Do you not know what the reporting on Hitler looked like back then?
titiklabingapat
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So, about that pivot, eh?
At this point, I feel comfortable that the presidential race is over. Everything else until at least the debate is just noise.
Also, I want to punch Corey's sad face on CNN. The blonde pundit rightly called his schtick with the criminal immigrants murdering Americans as manipulative bullshit. She is right, American on american homicide is more common, and I don't see the Trump supporters putting thier panties in a twist over that.
At this point, I feel comfortable that the presidential race is over. Everything else until at least the debate is just noise.
Also, I want to punch Corey's sad face on CNN. The blonde pundit rightly called his schtick with the criminal immigrants murdering Americans as manipulative bullshit. She is right, American on american homicide is more common, and I don't see the Trump supporters putting thier panties in a twist over that.
Really, New York Times? You're calling this a pivot?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
This feels like it was written this morning before anything happened, or in some bizarro universe.
PlayALLtheGames
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One bit of fairness to Nieto: he invited both Clinton and Trump.
Maybe this really was a case of expecting the opposite result and inviting Trump as a formality. Then someone informed him, "Trump has agreed but no Climton"' and Nieto was like "Wait what the fuck, really?"
Like when you invite someone you don't really like to something vaguely for whatever reason but then they accept.
Hahahaha. What a shit-show.
Really, New York Times? You're calling this a pivot?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
I honestly think this will get corrected. This is crazy.
BigJonsson
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I'd love to see what Trudeau would do if he met with Trump, but hopefully it never happens
Scotland,
Unpaid contractors in Atlanta,
Ivanka Trump,
Newt Gingrich,
Chris Christie,
Mike Pence,
Everyone involved in Trump U.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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No, I know how it was. "Hitler is just pretending about wanting to commit genocide to get the white working class, he looks very much like a national leader at these Olympic Games."
I'm just saying it's somehow gotten worse because reporters actually would acknowledge that Hitler expressed hatred of Jews, they just claimed that he was lying about it.
Punch him in the pumpkin when nobody is looking, blame it on a rogue moose. Offer him a bottle of syrup as a peace offering, refill the bottle with Mrs. Buttersworth's, chuckle sensibly.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Huma's ex husband being an asshole is more important than Trump holding a white power rally.
It would not be an easy relationship, I can tell you that much. None of the warmth and rapport he and Obama have.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Omg this round table on msnbc lol, wtf are they smoking?
ShironRedshift
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Really? Do you really still think that at this point? I mean, normally, I'd agree. But this is after the AP of all places doubled-down on their Clinton Foundation story and how the terrible and unprofessional way in which they handled and presented it on social media. Given that, I expect absolutely nothing at this point from even the big names like the AP and NYT. They just don't seem to give a fuck anymore, and are just going with whatever narrative they want, regardless of how little sense it makes or whether it's at all connected with reality or not.
adamsappel
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Really, New York Times? You're calling this a pivot?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
Agreed. I read CNN's coverage and it also seems like they had been told to expect something different and mainstream-friendly.
BlastProcessing
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Really, New York Times? You're calling this a pivot?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/771192259798708224
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-speech.html
Stark turnaround, eh? Going from a Deportation Force to a Deportation Task Force is really a turnaround.
It's all about the Task guys.
Oddly enough, Healy is a CNN contributor and frequently on during the day!
FOLLOW THE MONEY!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Every journalist is savaging the NYT right now whereas many people defended the AP for being inaccurate and misleading.
Anyway, its just dawned on me that Trump is getting referrals not from the Nazi infested 4chan, but from the Nazi AND child porn infested 8ch.
Seriously, Trump fans are too hardcore for 4chan... That's pretty over the top.
Anyway, its just dawned on me that Trump is getting referrals not from the Nazi infested 4chan, but from the Nazi AND child porn infested 8ch.
Seriously, Trump fans are too hardcore for 4chan... That's pretty over the top.
Odds are they got an advance copy of Trump's "remarks" from the campaign then he did what he usually does. It's pure laziness on their parts not to check the advance against what happened before publishing.
Spoiled Milk
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Just like our debt which has started ballooning since Obama took office, we have been overspending our cultural budget by accepting too many immigrants and not taking illegal immigration seriously. By the year 2050 native born Americans will no longer be the majority in this country, and over 50% of this country's population will belong to people who were not native born (or are native born to people who were not native born).
As such it is our responsibility to preserve this America that we love for native americans. To this end, we must revert our immigration levels to their historic levels. These levels will preserve the makeup of our country so that we can protect our very way of life.
In the UK, in Germany, in France, pretty much all over the world we have seen an assault on native values and customs by people coming in through porous borders. We cannot let this happen in the US. Just like the UK, which so bravely took its country back from invaders, we must also take our country back from the invaders that have already invaded us through an invasion. It is an invasion, folks. And we will win the war.
Not only will we make sure that only a harmless amount of foreigners will be able to come into this country each year, thus nullifying the threat of destroying our precious cultural heirlooms like Leave It To Beaver and John Wayne, we will also enact strict, merit based immigration so that only people who are culturally compatible to western civilization will be able to live her. If we allow any person over the world to come over here, we drag ourselves down. But if we are going to stoop so low and ingratiate ourselves by sharing our precious resources to people who have never worked a day in their life to enrich our nation then we might as well get something out of it, too.
Thank you, and Christian (not Catholic) Jesus bless this great and welcoming country. But not too welcoming.
As such it is our responsibility to preserve this America that we love for native americans. To this end, we must revert our immigration levels to their historic levels. These levels will preserve the makeup of our country so that we can protect our very way of life.
In the UK, in Germany, in France, pretty much all over the world we have seen an assault on native values and customs by people coming in through porous borders. We cannot let this happen in the US. Just like the UK, which so bravely took its country back from invaders, we must also take our country back from the invaders that have already invaded us through an invasion. It is an invasion, folks. And we will win the war.
Not only will we make sure that only a harmless amount of foreigners will be able to come into this country each year, thus nullifying the threat of destroying our precious cultural heirlooms like Leave It To Beaver and John Wayne, we will also enact strict, merit based immigration so that only people who are culturally compatible to western civilization will be able to live her. If we allow any person over the world to come over here, we drag ourselves down. But if we are going to stoop so low and ingratiate ourselves by sharing our precious resources to people who have never worked a day in their life to enrich our nation then we might as well get something out of it, too.
Thank you, and Christian (not Catholic) Jesus bless this great and welcoming country. But not too welcoming.
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