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[Boke1879]

Trump drop the birth certificate shit. It doesn't help you. AT ALL

 

[Four_Chamber]

Holt did fine for the most part, did get steamrolled by Trump a few times. Bringing up his Iraq vote and taking him to task for racial profiling were great.

However, I think Anderson Cooper and Chris Wallace are going to be much stronger in reeling in Trump. Honestly, people will want to hear something new from him at the next debate but I think he seriously lacks the knowledge to make coherent arguments.

Hillary going the high road was fine but I do want to see some subtle digs at him. The tax return stuff, for example, was very well done.

 

[HylianTom]

This is one of those moments where I'm glad that the first debate is the most-watched.

Hot damn.

 

[Grexeno]

so basically

Hillary had room for improvement but still conclusively won

now she can improve for the town hall

 

[Y2Kev]

To all of you who doubted queen

she
came
through

 

[Sianos]

LOL, okay, STFU Nate

Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Good news for Democrats: Really hard to see how that debate helped Trump.
Bad news: If it somehow did help Trump, maybe no stopping him?

it doesn't have to be this way, bad nate

it doesn't have to be this way

 

[Randolph Freelander]

If you still cared what Nate said ... you can stop now.

Nate just lost all credibility with that tweet

What's wrong with that tweet? He seems to be as pessimistic about the American electorate as many of us.

We're stupid. This race shouldn't be close, yet it is.

 

[Black Mamba]

Trump just ran to the spin room to spin.

Even he knows he lost...or not, he's that stupid.

 

[Cyanity]

Link to Trump speaking right now?

edit - it's on Bloomberg

 

[Dan]

Haha, Trump declaring he's doing great in online polls on Bloomberg.

 

[Manmademan]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

I'm calling you a crazy person

 

[Holmes]

Hillary when Trump was spewing bullshit

 

[Fox318]

I wonder what the debate would have looked like with a traditional candidate like Jeb Bush?

 

[BlastProcessing]

Bah, Trump going to spin room will suck all oxygen out of Clinton surrogates.

I don't see that happening.

 

[nature boy]

Wow is Laura Ingrahm giving Clinton the win?

Now bitching about Holt.

 

[Boke1879]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

Trump was more charismatic and played the part of the strong man extremely well.

Was also unhinged and made no sense but that doesn't matter all that much.

Hillary was better on all policy pretty much but was much less charismatic. Also let him talk a lot. Stayed smiling and tried to play the high card, linking Michelle.

Was lame. Less than expected.

Oh please. The tax shit, taking advantage of workers, the birth shit all killed him, and he looked unhinged. Sorry but that's bad.

 

[Hazmat]

Also, fuck Chuck Todd. "The American voters are the losers because they just talked about themselves."

Who has the ability to affect that?

 

[Dan]

OH FUCK. Trump saying on Bloomberg that he barely restrained himself from his 'final attack' by going after Bill Clinton's infidelities.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Kayleigh has the crazy eyes right now

 

[Poodlestrike]

Lady on NPR ACTUALLY cracking up over the 400 lbs hacker thing, and also throwing the NRA under the bus.

 

[Fenderputty]

There is literally no way Trump got out of this looking better.

He soared a little bit on the manufacturing stuff, but total flapping in the mud in the end.

He only sounds good on this stuff because he's loud and at first glance his BS blaming free trade seems to make sense regarding the reduction of jobs in manufacturing. It doesn't play well to talk about the continued shift to a service job economey for a lot of working class people. He doesn't want to discuss how his tarrifs would cause prices to just increase.

I think he got destroyed and did what I assumed he would, lie and stump. That being said, that's all he's ever done so how this plays out to the average voter is beyond me. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

 

[RustyNails]

So Trump thinks he made President Obama create the birth certificate is a good look.

 

[Dominican Power]

Kayleigh, shut the fuck up, you fucking idiot.

 

[aaaaa0]

Holy shit Donald Trump just said he won the debate.

 

[HylianTom]

My god, they're asking him about birtherism in the spin room. The hits just keep on coming. He sooooo wanted to move on from it..

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Wow is Laura Ingrahm giving Clinton the win?

Now bitching about Holt.

 

[Debirudog]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

Trump was more charismatic and played the part of the strong man extremely well.

Was also unhinged and made no sense but that doesn't matter all that much.

Hillary was better on all policy pretty much but was much less charismatic. Also let him talk a lot. Stayed smiling and tried to play the high card, linking Michelle.

Was lame. Less than expected.

He sounded more like a buffoon, not a strong man. Again, you can't expect pure perfection. Like how could you honestly expect someone who is proud to take advantage of the working class, dodge his financial responsibilities and completely fucking up on his birther moment made him incredibly strong.

You must be impressed by a 4 year throwing off an trantrum then.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Oh please. The tax shit, taking advantage of workers, the birth shit all killed him, and he looked unhinged. Sorry but that's bad.

We'll see in the polls. Hasn't hurt him before.

Although the birther stuff deplorable.

 

[Manmademan]

I wonder what the debate would have looked like with a traditional candidate like Jeb Bush?

not much better. Jeb has negative charisma and isn't a particularly good speaker- and he's still tied to incredibly backwards economic and social policy that is ripe for anyone to easily dismantle with little effort.

 

[thepotatoman]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

Trump was more charismatic and played the part of the strong man extremely well.

Was also unhinged and made no sense but that doesn't matter all that much.

Hillary was better on all policy pretty much but was much less charismatic. Also let him talk a lot. Stayed smiling and tried to play the high card, linking Michelle.

Was lame. Less than expected.

I might agree with it being a tie, but I think Trump needed more than that. This might be his last good opportunity to actually get a strong lead, instead of just brief spats of tied in the polls.

 

[CygnusXS]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

Trump was more charismatic and played the part of the strong man extremely well.

Was also unhinged and made no sense but that doesn't matter all that much.

Hillary was better on all policy pretty much but was much less charismatic. Also let him talk a lot. Stayed smiling and tried to play the high card, linking Michelle.

Was lame. Less than expected.

See, to me, "charismatic" and "unhinged" are mutually exclusive.

 

[dramatis]

I did notice that he seemed to have less energy in the second half of the debate. He was all fury after y the first ten minutes, and then he was just resigned.

Trump came in thinking he could steamroll Hillary. When he tried to interrupt and Hillary just ignored him, he realized he couldn't fluster her like he did Jeb.

 

[Bowdz]

Serious question: does Trump even do the second debate now? Consensus seems to be he was destroyed.

 

[East Lake]

Trump on Bloomberg saying he didn't want to correct Hillary's lies because he's saving his "final attack" on things her husband did and didn't want to offend Chelsea.

 

[Veelk]

To all of you who doubted queen

she
came
through

I never doubted she would. She's intelligent and capable, while trump is trump.

What I'm worried over is how much of a difference it will make.

 

[Y2Kev]

Trump surrogates need to give her the win so that they can claim he won the next debate.

 

[TreIII]

LOL, okay, STFU Nate

Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Good news for Democrats: Really hard to see how that debate helped Trump.
Bad news: If it somehow did help Trump, maybe no stopping him?

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE, NATE SILVER!"

 

[Box of Kittens]

LOL, okay, STFU Nate

Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Good news for Democrats: Really hard to see how that debate helped Trump.
Bad news: If it somehow did help Trump, maybe no stopping him?

Yeah. I have issues with his model but I'm perfectly willing to listen to defenses of it. His punditry is pretty much indefensible, and despite saying all the right things after the primary disaster, he's not only gone back to old habits, he seems to be getting worse.

 

[Holmes]

Fuck, I'm gonna be up all night celebrating

 

[Boke1879]

We'll see in the polls. Hasn't hurt him before.

Although the birther stuff deplorable.

I'm telling you. The tax shit and the birther shit is just not a good look. At all.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't think Trump can pull out of the next debate. It would be a disaster.

 

[Officerrob]

To all of you who doubted queen

she
came
through

She was just OK IMO, she benefited from Trump being a fucking disaster

 

[Basileus777]

Yeah. I have issues with his model but I'm perfectly willing to listen to defenses of it. His punditry is pretty much indefensible, and despite saying all the right things after the primary disaster, he's not only gone back to old habits, he seems to be getting worse.

I actually think he was less obnoxious in the primary. The guy is straight up writing troll tweets now.

 

[BrokenFiction]

OH FUCK. Trump saying on Bloomberg that he barely restrained himself from his 'final attack' by going after Bill Clinton's infidelities.

Oh God, yes. PLEASE DO THAT.

 

[Wilsongt]

This is how I feel about Andrea Mitchell and Chucn Todd's hot scoops.

 

[Pixieking]

Yeah, Holt wasn't great at making sure the candidates kept to the time-limits... That favoured Trump, but his rambling made it a negative. Hillary went over a couple of times, but she did so "politely" - that is, finishing her talking point within 3 sentences, at most.

Trump lost the end - saying Rosie deserved it? What is that?? And not answering the "Will you abide by the result?" question at all. It was a weak answer by Clinton, but also politically clever - remind people that it's about their future.

Good answer by Clinton on emails. "It was a mistake, I wouldn't do it again." That's it. She also didn't give air-time to arguing against "super-predator".

That scoff by Trump after "African American community". That's how you show disrespect.

 

[Hopfrog]

So.

I'm calling a tie on that.

Trump was more charismatic and played the part of the strong man extremely well.

Was also unhinged and made no sense but that doesn't matter all that much.

Hillary was better on all policy pretty much but was much less charismatic. Also let him talk a lot. Stayed smiling and tried to play the high card, linking Michelle.

Was lame. Less than expected.

All due respect, you are out of your mind if you think that was a tie.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

We're on the part on CNN where Lord gets run over by everyone

 

[metalslimer]

She was just OK IMO, she benefited from Trump being a fucking disaster

She led him into a lot of the traps that got him off his game

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

I don't think much will change from this debate.