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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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Yeah. That's huge.
ryutaro's mama
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So would me saying, "Mika is ******sing the fuck out right now" make you happier?
dynamitejim
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So what was the speculation on what will happen with the Merrick Garland nomination if it looks like Hillary will win? Will Republicans rush to confirm him in the face of a potentially younger, more liberal Hillary pick? Will Obama rescind his nomination?
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ryutaro's mama
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He fucking doubled down on his fuckery.
nature boy
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Trump lost, no doubt about it. He essentially didn't prepare and choked LIKE A DOG.
Clinton, while not perfect, did really well.
He had a low bar and couldn't pass it, she had a high bar and exceeded it.
Having said that, I'm not convinced debates are this game-changer people think it is, but her debate performance only helped her.
Clinton, while not perfect, did really well.
He had a low bar and couldn't pass it, she had a high bar and exceeded it.
Having said that, I'm not convinced debates are this game-changer people think it is, but her debate performance only helped her.
He truly is a horrible person.
sazzy
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They're really scummy with all this Clinton affair stuff. They're clearly trying to have their cake and eat it too by putting it out there, but not totally implicitly. First with the Flowers invite and now mentioning this stuff at the end of the debate and after but acting like he's somehow the bigger person here.
All they want to do is plant the seed in the public mind and then back away from it. Total scumbag moves and they deserve to be called out on it.
All they want to do is plant the seed in the public mind and then back away from it. Total scumbag moves and they deserve to be called out on it.
Finale Fireworker
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I feel as though you're missing the point here. A fellow member requested we stop using their name as a joke because it upset them. We agreed. We don't use the term anymore because it's disrespectful to Diablos. It is not cool to continue ribbing somebody who has repeatedly asked people to stop.
But I won't go back and forth with you anymore - I'm sure you don't want to either. Just know that we are trying to move away from the joke and you will probably receive some pushback when you use it.
#ImWithDiablos
As someone whose name was made a verb amongst his friends irl, I can tell you that it's a very short-step from "This is cool and funny" to "What the hell". Luckily my friends could see that it wasn't amusing me and left it.
So, y'know, let's leave it.
It would be difficult for me to go over everything I felt Trump fucked up in this debate so I'll go with the one I found most affecting.
The Alicia Machedo stuff seemed a pretty devastating closer to me. Trump's rebuttal "where did you find this" didn't even seem like a real rebuttal but like a panicked knee jerk which made it all more impactful.
The Alicia Machedo stuff seemed a pretty devastating closer to me. Trump's rebuttal "where did you find this" didn't even seem like a real rebuttal but like a panicked knee jerk which made it all more impactful.
Do we know how many people actually watched yet? If
100 million people watched Trump's word salad "debate" style it makes a lasting impression. This isn't the primary.
gutter_trash
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is there audio?
Roland_Gunner
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Trump doubles down on everything. After he octupled down on attacking the Khan family after the Democratic convention that should be obvious to everyone. Hopefully we're close enough to the election now that people don't forget this time.
ryutaro's mama
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So even when I change it and don't use the name, it still bothers you? I don't get it.
ryutaro's mama
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He was on Fox and Friends just now. They showed it on Morning Joe. It was surreal.
I don't trust my fellow Americans that much. Sorry.
User 463088
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I think fast nationals for locals come out around noon or so EST. Maybe someone will have them earlier on Twitter. I think the cable ratings take a bit longer.
sazzy
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saw it on Morning Joe, apparently he called in on Fox this morning.
expect there to be more about this very soon
Finale Fireworker
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This is why it's so important that media covers the debate(s) accurately. Most people didn't and won't tune in to the debate, so the post-debate material needs to be clear. We haven't had fair media coverage of the two candidates almost this whole election cycle. It matters a lot more as people get to work and start Googling what happened last night.
I hope he brings it up. She has tremendous time to prepare a great answer.
"Well, Donald, besides that deeply painful, humiliating part of my life being none of your business, I learned that despite no matter how much someone's mistake hurts you--no matter how gut wrenching, how heart wrenching, how saddening it can be-- people in our country are fundamentally good and if you give them a chance they will redeem themselves. My relationship with Bill, which again is none of your business, is one of the many sources of strength for me in my life. I'm sorry you can't understand that."
"Well, Donald, besides that deeply painful, humiliating part of my life being none of your business, I learned that despite no matter how much someone's mistake hurts you--no matter how gut wrenching, how heart wrenching, how saddening it can be-- people in our country are fundamentally good and if you give them a chance they will redeem themselves. My relationship with Bill, which again is none of your business, is one of the many sources of strength for me in my life. I'm sorry you can't understand that."
nature boy
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Miss Universe bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihO5KootGjY&feature=youtu.be
ryutaro's mama
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See...now that I see the entire clip, I understand why he doubled down. Fox and Friends is tossing him softball questions and he is back inside the bubble. So he felt he could be honest with "friends".
Sad.
sazzy
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saw the Briefing clip about Alicia, and now this...
its so bloody goddamn fucking infuriating
ryutaro's mama
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Donald is on Fox and Friends blaming bad microphones.
Seriously.
Seriously.
User 463088
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You can watch the Fox News people try and get him off that halfway through. Hahahaha
Poodlestrike
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I feel like the strongest moment of the debate, and the one that I think best demonstrates Hillary's strategy there, was when Trump tried to claim that his temperament was his greatest asset and the audience straight up laughed at him. She controlled the tone, she controlled the content, and she used both to put him into a position where he kept on spending all his time talking about his weak points and very, very little time attacking her on hers. Like, the emails thing? He managed successfully to pivot the tax returns to her, briefly... then she shrugged it off, got under his skin, so when the mic went back to him, he spent a few moments on emails again and then went right back to talking about his taxes!
ryutaro's mama
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"I have the best tax evasions...very best...endorsed by many, many CPAs...the very best."
Well we probably shouldn't worry too much about any bad polls that may come down the wire over the next couple days. Once the public digests all of this I definitely can see a bounce for her. Maybe it will be a point or two, maybe more but I also see Trump losing ground no matter what.
I'm seeing some chatter about how Bernie would have had a better answer for NAFTA and TPP against Trump which kind of ignore that Trump wouldn't bother trying to attack Bernie for those things. Sad!
nature boy
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Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
if that is the post cover then Trump got destroyed lol
ryutaro's mama
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NC going blue effectively ends Trump, even if he holds Ohio and flips Florida, right?
cartoon_soldier
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Yes, it ends Trump.
metalslimer
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I'm really worried about the Senate at this point.
nature boy
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Yes if he doesn't win Michigan or PA.
4-4 SCOTUS indefinitely if she wins but falls short of carrying the Senate. Ugh
Joe Shlabotnik
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VA/PA/NC is the election. It protects against a loss in literally all of the other swing states, and all of Maine, and Wisconsin.
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