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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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shinra-bansho
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Nate whatevercolourtrashis. Brown? Grey? Black?
Trash rainbow. Smells like sulphur.
Trash rainbow. Smells like sulphur.
brianmcdoogle
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Remember, his bipolar models are a feature!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Comparing Trump to a bull is highly offensive to the bulls. Bulls lose because they're maimed and tortured before the fight. Trump lost because he's a fucking loser and dumb as shit.
This is just so important.
edit: Are there "fundamentals" papers in political science that look at wage gains (losses) by income/wealth bracket? For example, the economic conditions of the late 1980s would be okay for the non-rich and simply amazing for the rich, but did the non-rich treat those years as having good economic conditions?
This is just so important.
edit: Are there "fundamentals" papers in political science that look at wage gains (losses) by income/wealth bracket? For example, the economic conditions of the late 1980s would be okay for the non-rich and simply amazing for the rich, but did the non-rich treat those years as having good economic conditions?
JesseEwiak
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When PJ O'Rourke, who's probably so loaded that he could have a proof labeled on him can explain why to vote for Clinton as a conservative, it just shows how morally bankrupt the rest of the Party apparatus is.
Slate article thinks it was part of a reunion show
whyamihere
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So.
Talked my Republican-leaning mother.
She hated Trump. Thought that he did a really terrible job. She couldn't believe he brought up Rosie.
She does not like Hillary. There's too much "drama". She didn't love that red pant suit she wore. She really thought it looked bad. She hated her smile. But she also couldn't believe what Melania was wearing and thought she looked like she was "going to a club". She thinks that Trump is a universally terrible candidate. She can't vote for Trump. And she can't vote third party.
It's hard for her not vote for a Republican. But, she had a dream last night, a VIVID dream, where she talked to Hillary and told her she did such a good job. She thought that this was maybe a sign. And her smartest friend who is a Republican is voting for Hillary.
She's not sure. But feels like she's voting for Hillary.
#signs
Talked my Republican-leaning mother.
She hated Trump. Thought that he did a really terrible job. She couldn't believe he brought up Rosie.
She does not like Hillary. There's too much "drama". She didn't love that red pant suit she wore. She really thought it looked bad. She hated her smile. But she also couldn't believe what Melania was wearing and thought she looked like she was "going to a club". She thinks that Trump is a universally terrible candidate. She can't vote for Trump. And she can't vote third party.
It's hard for her not vote for a Republican. But, she had a dream last night, a VIVID dream, where she talked to Hillary and told her she did such a good job. She thought that this was maybe a sign. And her smartest friend who is a Republican is voting for Hillary.
She's not sure. But feels like she's voting for Hillary.
#signs
RustyNails
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So I was listening to Thom Hartmann today (sue me benji), and he recounted that back when Mike Pence was a conservative radio host (10 or so years ago), he debated Pence and basically admitted that he got a thrashing. He was cautioning Kaine about how well researched Pence was, pulling quotes that Thom said from decades ago that threw him off balance. Also that Pence is a very good at being a chameleon on his policies.
I mean Kaine is going to be prepared, but I guess I dont have high expectations from him. He's been out of office for a while too, and just seems too nice of a guy to counterpunch.
I mean Kaine is going to be prepared, but I guess I dont have high expectations from him. He's been out of office for a while too, and just seems too nice of a guy to counterpunch.
titiklabingapat
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Dang,Kayleigh got triple tag teamed on Anderson tonight. Even Anderson was bemused lol
You can tell Steve Deucy was screaming inside lol
You can tell Steve Deucy was screaming inside lol
tedrotheredro
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Watching the 2012 Indiana Gubernatorial Debate right now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwGg6lmO80k). He should have tagged in yesterday for Trump.
He'll obviously come fully prep'd with the Republican establishment agenda, but I predict the debate to be very boring.
Lmao, I didn't know Rafi from The League ran as the Libertarian gubernatorial candidate for Indiana in 2012.
RastaMentality
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Lmao the fact that she needed a dream has me yelling.
IggyChooChoo
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What better encapsulation of the special snowflake mentality could there be than requiring a dream to open your eyes like you're a damn biblical prophet. That's just how important your vote is to the universe.
whyamihere
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makingmusic476
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That dream :lol
Voysa Reezun
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I mean, struggling with who to vote for in this presidential election is incomprehensible to me, but I don't see a need to bash her because her subconscious is working out how to make the right decision while she sleeps.
Yep. Dreams aren't magic, all that stuff drawn out by them exist within to begin with. I think it's kinda cool someone came to that paradigm shift while they were "nominally" resting.
An interesting excerpt.
His supporters' total inability (sometimes intentionally burying their heads in the sand) to see that he never, ever offers any actual solutions or plans, only broad, sweeping promises and blame games, is the most irksome part. I'm glad at least this Republican publication can see through his bullshit.
Thunder Monkey
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Which is pretty damn funny if true.
The man decimated the entire Republican field...
*laughter slowly slipping into maniacal cackles*
phisheep
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There's that, and there's also the thing about whether Pence has any effective defence for Trump.
Absolutely anything that Pence says about policy is wide open to the response, "Well Mike, you says that's your policy and I'll explain why I disagree with it in a moment, but what on earth makes you think that your guy, who can't even deliver a coherent sentence, can deliver a policy like that?"
sazzy
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Brilliant line I heard on TV:
Clinton went after Trump's strengths, not his weaknesses, and surgically dismantled him: his boasting about owning a beauty pageant, his claims about his business acumen contrasted with the housing crisis; him being a smart businessman who fights to pay as little taxes as possible; how he started his business with a 'small loan'; his sense of achievement about 'putting the birther issue to rest'.
Brilliant.
Clinton went after Trump's strengths, not his weaknesses, and surgically dismantled him: his boasting about owning a beauty pageant, his claims about his business acumen contrasted with the housing crisis; him being a smart businessman who fights to pay as little taxes as possible; how he started his business with a 'small loan'; his sense of achievement about 'putting the birther issue to rest'.
Brilliant.
I have come to bury Caesar...
Someone should start a Change.org petition to get the NX revealed immediately.
brianmcdoogle
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I may or may not have written a very angry post that I've saved on my computer for cathartic reasons with a line containing "For PoliGAF is full of honorable men"
This is what it boils down to for a lot of undecideds I bet. What you wear, and how you look. Policy be damned. But look, you know you're supposed to dress for the occasion, right? A bright red pant suit isn't just something you casually throw on for mimosas over brunch. But you can goddamn bet that red power suit is pretty appropriate for the first female presidential candidate going head to head with the most egotistical politician of all time. I think she looked pretty good.
Something that may be of interest to people, and which I only just found...
The Washington Post e-Replica Homepage. Basically, an exact replica of the print edition of the Post on a website. If you're not a subscriber, you only get the front page of each day, but to me that's the most interesting... For all that print news has fallen, the front page of a paper can still be visually and emotionally arresting, and can still make people think as they pass news-stands, or buy cigarettes and a bite to eat.
In terms of "optics" it's a good way to measure both what a paper thinks is important, and how people who aren't glued to the internet, or are only casually interested in the news, are fed a message. Most people here are probably in the States so will know what it says anyways, but for those abroad, I think it's an interesting site to look at.
The Washington Post e-Replica Homepage. Basically, an exact replica of the print edition of the Post on a website. If you're not a subscriber, you only get the front page of each day, but to me that's the most interesting... For all that print news has fallen, the front page of a paper can still be visually and emotionally arresting, and can still make people think as they pass news-stands, or buy cigarettes and a bite to eat.
In terms of "optics" it's a good way to measure both what a paper thinks is important, and how people who aren't glued to the internet, or are only casually interested in the news, are fed a message. Most people here are probably in the States so will know what it says anyways, but for those abroad, I think it's an interesting site to look at.
In case you're not familiar with it, you can get the front pages of a ton of newspaper from all over the world here -Something that may be of interest to people, and which I only just found...
The Washington Post e-Replica Homepage. Basically, an exact replica of the print edition of the Post on a website. If you're not a subscriber, you only get the front page of each day, but to me that's the most interesting... For all that print news has fallen, the front page of a paper can still be visually and emotionally arresting, and can still make people think as they pass news-stands, or buy cigarettes and a bite to eat.
In terms of "optics" it's a good way to measure both what a paper thinks is important, and how people who aren't glued to the internet, or are only casually interested in the news, are fed a message. Most people here are probably in the States so will know what it says anyways, but for those abroad, I think it's an interesting site to look at.
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/
They also have an archive of important historical dates.
nytimes should be furious after Donald took that jab at them during the debate
sazzy
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Latest episode of the The Run-Up (NYTimes)
StopMakingSense
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USC is back up to its incredibly high AA vote percentage for Trump.
New Debate Strategy for Donald Trump: Practice, Practice, Practice
That, to me, is a weird thing for an adviser to say - "She wasn't good... She just looked good because Trump was shit," is essentially what they're saying. And even worse - they're his advisers, if they can't admit that she actually played the debate well (if not excellently), then they're just underestimating her. The first debate was the one to stress about, for Hillary - whilst a different Trump may emerge in debates 2 and 3, she knows she can do this now, and she'll be far better in the next two.
That, to me, is a weird thing for an adviser to say - "She wasn't good... She just looked good because Trump was shit," is essentially what they're saying. And even worse - they're his advisers, if they can't admit that she actually played the debate well (if not excellently), then they're just underestimating her. The first debate was the one to stress about, for Hillary - whilst a different Trump may emerge in debates 2 and 3, she knows she can do this now, and she'll be far better in the next two.
She better not get over-confident.
Trump was able to land some pretty good attacks over TPP and NAFTA in the first 15-20 minutes of the debate. He just didn't have the stamina to keep it together past the first half-hour.
She needs to be able to turn aside those attacks more effectively than "I disagree".
Trump was able to land some pretty good attacks over TPP and NAFTA in the first 15-20 minutes of the debate. He just didn't have the stamina to keep it together past the first half-hour.
She needs to be able to turn aside those attacks more effectively than "I disagree".
BenjaminBirdie
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They will also be FARRRRR less watched. Trump had his chance. People wanted their answer and they got it.
shinra-bansho
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She gives bad answers on the TPP, and trade in general, because she's only giving those answers to appease the anti-trade odd-couple of blue collar workers who have been disproportionately impacted by it, and annoying dumb contrarian millennials whom have only ever benefited from it and aren't doing their pointless overpriced liberal arts degrees to go make cars.
Manmademan
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No he didn't, both are nonstarters.
Hillary supported the idea of TPP, but didn't negotiate it and disagreed with the final form and doesn't endorse it. Been consistent on that for months now.
Hillary wasn't in office for NAFTA and didn't vote for it, that was Bill and Bill isn't running. Want to slam Bill's record that's fine...but Bill has 8 years of a phenomenal economic boom and job increase to give him credibility. Good luck there.
Hillary had the opportunity to vote on CAFTA, didn't like it and shot it down on merit.
"Hillary loves bad trade deals!" Is pure fiction and Trump has never negotiated any deal in the same universe as CAFTA, NAFTA, or TPP to point to as experience...and as has quickly become apparent he's nowhere near the businessman he claims he is.
excelsiorlef
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So someone on my Facebook shared some Harry Potter meme that compared Hillary Clinton to fucking Dolores Umbridge...
Fucking hell. I'm tired of this idiocy about her.
Fucking hell. I'm tired of this idiocy about her.
What the fuck? Even I know Hillary is Hermione, and I've only watched the films.
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