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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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Looking at some of the crosstabs from Echelon's numbers.
Dems lead the generic congressional ballot by 4.8%
Hillary's favorables at 43/45
Trump's favorables at 36/52 (9/82 among African American voters)
Equal numbers of 18-29 year olds streamed the debate as watched it on broadcast TV.
18% of republicans thought Hillary won the debate.
Hillary wins leadership 54/45.
Hillary wins experience 66/34
Hillary wins honesty 50/49
Hillary wins compassion 66/34.
Hillary wins knowledge 66/34.
Hillary wins temperament 65/34
Trump wins toughness 58/41
Trump wins straight talk 50/49 (This is surprising, I think?)
Also, this is interesting. They asked people if they think the debate will make people change their minds and
Vote for Hillary (34)
Vote for Trump (19)
Or not change minds (47).
52% of republicans said it won't change minds, while 11% said more likely to vote Hillary and 36% more likely to vote Trump.
36% of democrats said it won't change minds, while 56% think it will make people more likely to vote Hillary, and 7% more likely to vote Trump.
I think that's interesting, because it shows democrats were a lot happier with the debate than the GOP was GOP is praying for a wash.
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Dems lead the generic congressional ballot by 4.8%
Hillary's favorables at 43/45
Trump's favorables at 36/52 (9/82 among African American voters)
Equal numbers of 18-29 year olds streamed the debate as watched it on broadcast TV.
18% of republicans thought Hillary won the debate.
Hillary wins leadership 54/45.
Hillary wins experience 66/34
Hillary wins honesty 50/49
Hillary wins compassion 66/34.
Hillary wins knowledge 66/34.
Hillary wins temperament 65/34
Trump wins toughness 58/41
Trump wins straight talk 50/49 (This is surprising, I think?)
Also, this is interesting. They asked people if they think the debate will make people change their minds and
Vote for Hillary (34)
Vote for Trump (19)
Or not change minds (47).
52% of republicans said it won't change minds, while 11% said more likely to vote Hillary and 36% more likely to vote Trump.
36% of democrats said it won't change minds, while 56% think it will make people more likely to vote Hillary, and 7% more likely to vote Trump.
I think that's interesting, because it shows democrats were a lot happier with the debate than the GOP was GOP is praying for a wash.
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aspiegamer
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Even 50 is fine. Just to pass SCOTUS nominees. Hell, Hillary could be inaugurated, get her 3 justices in and resign the day after they were confirmed and I'd consider it a successful presidency at this point. It's the only way democrats will survive the GOP having the presidency and both chambers of congress from 2020-2028.
More hopium! This might have actually been the worst-polled debate ever. Obama getting rocked vs Romney technically takes the crown looked extra bad in statistics because a lot of Democrats were self-aware enough to know he got slammed (and admit it).
Those favourability numbers for HRC have to be among the best she's had in any poll, right?
Definitely the best since leaving the State Department.
One's racist and the other isn't.
Not happening unless they have a reagen or Nixon like candidate waiting in the wings in 4 years.Hilary may struggle a bit in 2020 but she most likely will win that election.
balladofwindfishes
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Nah, I doubt they get the presidency any time soon. This was probably the last year they could have potentially gotten over the incoming serious electoral college issues they're going to have going forward unless they make serious platform changes towards minorities and young people.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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check the betting markets before people start freaking out about polls: https://electionbettingodds.com/WIN_chart_maxim_lott_john_stossel.html
it should be "vota mccain" right? voto mccain translates to mccain voted.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Mike Pence refuses to give right to vote (and other privileges that come from not being listed as a felon) back to black man who deserved a decade in prison for a crime he didn't commit (because Mike Pence hates black people).
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/...ont-act-on-par?utm_term=.rvJZ45d3V#.uwyWvPkVq
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/...ont-act-on-par?utm_term=.rvJZ45d3V#.uwyWvPkVq
Electric Eye
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No it means "I vote McCain"
Spoiled Milk
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Voto is the formal imperative form.
I guess Pence felt that Kaine didn't have enough ammunition to shoot him down with.
metalslimer
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Wooh I'm halfway through the Frontline episode and it's pretty amazing and everyone should watch it. I will say that it's incredible that Obama has had a scandal free presidency.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2016/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2016/
Aaron Strife
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2 days after Nate had a meltdown on Twitter over his model dropping Hillary's odds to 51% from 58%, it is now back to 58%
I didn't know that Kaine was a discrimination lawyer until a few days ago and now this. My god I may actually watch the VP debate now because it's going to be a bloodbath!
Coriolanus
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yarp.
Could also change all the "por tu" para "por mi" and then it'd work with voto too. First person singular and all
IggyChooChoo
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Wouldn't polite imperative be vote?
Spoiled Milk
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Whoops. You're right. They oopsed the Spanish on the ad.
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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I want a question for Pence to be: "Why did you push the lie that Saddam was behind the anthrax attacks when there was no evidence?"
NYCmetsfan
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OMG I just realized something that might make 2020's election crazy.
The census is that year and 2010 already had some fever swamps with the black helicopters.
The census is that year and 2010 already had some fever swamps with the black helicopters.
NYCmetsfan
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This. Its Saying "I'm voting McCain" Literally I vote McCain
The campaign is Unidos con McCain
Formal imperative is "Vote" (vo-teh)
BotoxAgent
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what a piece of shit
Pence is no slouch either, he's a former radio talk show host. I expect it to be hard fought and closely contested.
nature boy
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Worth the watch for the young Clinton and Trump. Gets a bit light covering the last decade or so.
User 463088
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Why are you on Facebook? Are you 80?
You know what, I am, but I don't come here to be judged.
I have a Facebook account and I'm not 80.
The hair mouse makes his nest in the blowdrawer.
You're both 80 and a crying girl? Witch!!?
Too far in the weeds, there are more recent discrimination policies that would be more relevant and in Kaine's wheelhouse.
I'm the most anti-gun person you'll ever meet, but I'm wholly for better mental health care and support services.
Also ban guns.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Right, but Pence was one of the wildest waterboys for W's vendetta against Saddam and Pence deserves to be punished for it even if it's not politically effective.
balladofwindfishes
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Maybe the Supreme Court will rule Gerrymandering unconstitutional
We would have had the House in 2012 if that was the case
We would have had the House in 2012 if that was the case
Maybe Hillary will rule it unconstitutional.
Lolololololololololololololololololol states rights.
nature boy
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DAMN
balladofwindfishes
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There's a decent argument gerrymandering is race based and discriminatory.
Could be proven to be discriminatory and in violation of the civil rights act. Maybe.
Of course. That is definitely clear based on this past census and the REPUBLICAN WAVE OF 2010.
But you will have so many ass on head arguments from GOP lawyers that there is no way it gets ruled against.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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