Big ole nothingburger. CNN had the audio aired earlier and didn't make it out as an attack like people who are looking at it from a glance are.
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Big ole nothingburger. CNN had the audio aired earlier and didn't make it out as an attack like people who are looking at it from a glance are.
sazzy
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Why would it be odd that the campaign manager for the alt-right candidate would be tweeting about the thing that the alt-right started?
I don't completely disagree with you, but how you feel doesn't really matter here. It doesn't say much to the society that we live in, where students are encouraged to even consider going to school out-of-state, to shoot for the most prestigious school they're accepted to and worry about the costs later, don't even think about community colleges because community colleges are for underachievers. The out-of-state factor doesn't even matter much depending on which state you're from, like California, where the UC school system wasn't much cheaper (or cheaper at all) than going out-of-state, at least at the time I was in school.
And THEN you factor in the banks and financial institutions that encouraged this thinking because they wanted to lock as many uneducated (on the subject), idealistic, and pressured students and families into shitty loans, and often working in tandem with the schools themselves trying to drive their enrollments up. I'll never forget the conversation with my loan officer, and her actively trying to encourage me to get a student loan for the maximum amount I qualified for and using all the "fun things" I could spend my refund money on as incentive. Luckily, I had a no-nonsense grandmother screaming in my ear to not go this route. But a 19-year-old me without that type of influence? And there a tons of kids out there without that influence being preyed upon.
But I didn't make the same mistake, so fuck 'em.
A couple of weeks ago my friend asked me if I wanted to help him campaign for Clinton in Tampa.
Me: I'm good. =p
Maybe he secretly over-prepped for this last debate.
Did he say this?
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Cool story. Appreciate the help in stopping white nationalism. Good talk.
Kellyanne seems to mention Hillary far more than Trump on Twitter, it's kind of weird. Negative or not, talk about your candidate, or better yet, retweet his messages!
LMFAOOOO.
But i do believe he prepped for the first debate. That's just the best he can do. So expect more of the same. Also honest to GOD. in what world are you spending 50% of your thoughts worrying about the mic.
Why change a winning strategy?
You might say to yourself, "But he didn't w-"
Wrong. Wrong. What you're not taking into account is that he wants to believe he won, so he did. After all, he's a winner. He has a winning temperament. How could he lose?
He's lived in this reality-denying bubble throughout his entire campaign, so he's not going to change now.
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Except he doesn't really interact with humans much. It's not really a secret that he doesn't seem to have close friends. He couldn't even stay on good terms with a crying baby.
NYCmetsfan
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I think it's implied by him saying he won the first debate, ergo no practice is necessary.
There have been multiple articles saying his team is gingerly talking to him and is going to get him to prep for the town hall, doing basic things like "sit on a stool", "walk around" etc. and that prep could begin "as soon as this weekend". Putting aside the fact that Trump won't prepare for shitmaybe as soon as this weekend?? Even with a candidate who would consent to preparation and could focus for more that 20 minutes at a time... there's a week until the next debate! You have no time to lose in your kindly Trump makeover! Anyway, it doesn't matter because he's not going to do it.
I hope he mansplains to a town hall questioner.
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Why would he change. HE WON!
lol
I'm taking the USA Today approach: a denouncement rather than an endorsement. I never said I was never going to vote for her (well actually, I did say that -- I take back the "never" part). Doesn't mean I'm going to campaign for her.
Their always a an excuse,I am sure something will be wrong with his chair or not the right kind of water.
Yep nothign is going to change here.
It find it amusing that one of the Trump campaign's strategies is "Get the Busters," like they represent some kind of useful voting bloc. They'd probably get more voters if they stopped people outside a Dave and Busters.
She's supposed to be helping his campaign, not sabotaging it from within.
She's supposed to be helping his campaign, not sabotaging it from within.
It's going to look bad if he's sitting down while Clinton is walking around and engaging.
Basileus777
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The strategy is to drive down Democratic turnout and it's the only way Trump can possibly win.
She keeps going out there and spouting it like it's truth, I don't see why not! Double down, if you're going to sell your soul.
I also like how all of the media against him this week has emboldened him rather than swayed him. It's incredible.
The main story in the trend is a Newsweek article titled:
The entire hashtag are just Trump supporters trying to make an issue out of it. The fact they have to invent a hashtag from something HIllary didn't even say shows just how much of a non-story it is.
Because I dislike my life, I actually went on Twitter and look at who is tweeting this-- it's allllll Trump and rightwing crazies!
The Tennessee GOP ALONE has 7 tweets about this!
Right, but how many ex-Bernie supporters are just on the fence enough to vote for Hillary but just rabid enough that this one tiny nothing gets them to finally say "Well said, Mr. Trump, I think I'll sit this one out."?
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Kev, why don't you just buy twitter and shut it down for us? Please?
There are, IMO, way more effective lines of attack. They should focus on trade.
not enough to give a shit about
Basileus777
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Well it's not about one thing, it's the constant refrain of mud being thrown at Hillary that is designed to damper enthusiasm for her and keep people from going to the polls. I'm not claiming that the execution is great or anything, but the general strategy is not without merit.
sazzy
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oh god oh god
read maureen dowd's column this week
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/opinion/sunday/girl-talk-at-trump-tower.html
read maureen dowd's column this week
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/opinion/sunday/girl-talk-at-trump-tower.html
only a tiny fringe would actually think Hillary's comment was a jab on them. If anything, I find this leaked comment to actually show how presidential Hillary was being. She's actually showing sympathy for the youth group that at best, were apathetic towards her.
Conway and Trumpeters can't seem to realize this might actually backfire on them.
Conway and Trumpeters can't seem to realize this might actually backfire on them.
Finale Fireworker
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I got a lot of this too. My high school had a couple of fourth-year classes called "Options" classes. You learned about creating a budget, made fake resumes, had fake interviews, wrote actual college essays, and learned some basic life skills to put into effect when you graduated.
We had a whole lesson about credit cards. How having bad credit can affect you, about how easy it is to fall into debt, about how a credit card is not an allowance with no strings attached and how you should always plan to have a zero balance at the end of the month.
They said that credit card companies would try to get us to sign up as soon as we turned 18 and they would be all over college campuses trying to trick us into debt. I never saw any of that. In fact, I wasn't approved for a credit card until I turned 21. My expectation of predatory credit card companies was never met, but I did live through the era of predatory banks. I watched people lose their homes, and now I see fellow graduates losing their livelihood.
Because when it came to student loans, the "free money" pitfall they told us to avoid with credit cards was thrown out the window. They told us to take the biggest loans we were offered even if we didn't need it. My guidance counselor said I would get a "refund check" I could use for "whatever I wanted." In other words, they tried to sell me on the idea of free money. You don't even have to pay it back until you graduate, they said. If you keep going to school, you can just keep deferring your loans. Don't even worry about paying it back right now.
And kids didn't. They didn't worry about paying it back at all. I remember high school kids sharing in jubilation all the different loans they qualified for. Not grants, not scholarships, LOANS.
A lot of kids let banks finance their lifestyle for four years because they were sold on the idea of making an investment with somebody else's money and just reaping the lifelong benefit. Not to mention "living the dream" at college for four years. Now it's over and they're miserable. I've heard more than once that "at least what happened to me won't happen to my kid."
Not that I think this whole Basement Dweller campaign will make any difference but those kinds of voters aren't reliable and in this absentee/early voting period, it's all about getting out your most reliable votes.
That's my point, it's such a narrow approach! It's like he's running for class president but he's got his campaign manager in the corner wasting has tags on the three emo kids.
no one ever accused these people of being smart
Trump is running out of time. This "controversy" will barely last today before the SNL premier floods social media tonight, tomorrow, Monday, and until the second debate. Then we have the vice-presidential debate (which, honestly, won't have a big impact unless Kaine or Pence flops hard). All of this is supposes Trump won't do anything else from now until...any minute now.
The Trump campaign knows this. which is why they desperately want the "basement dwellers" thing to take off. But nobody is picking this up except yo just correct the record that HIllary wasn't criticizing Bernie supporters.
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I had a scholarship to pay for undergrad. Because of choices I made, I ended up losing my scholarship. (I didn't do anything bad, but I left school to care for my dad for a few years before he passed away). I thought I could keep my eligibility. Turns out, I couldn't. So, the thing I worked for so hard, I lost, and loans were my only option.
So, every month I see that bill, I get like...ugh. So stupid on so many levels.
It sucks, but it's not stupid. On your deathbed you won't give two shits about loan interest but will remember being with your dad.
This doesn't feel like it even qualifies as mud though, there's absolutely nothing to it. It's like a few flecks of crud in otherwise clear tap water.
I don't think anyone who's swayed by this nothingburger counted as "reliable" in the first place. Nothingburger is generous; this is a Nothingslider. Served up hot and fresh by your friendly neighborhood Whites-only Castle.
Exactly. Somebody who's swayed by such a thin, obvious line of attack is somebody you shouldn't really count on being able to figure out which lever to pull on election day.
Finale Fireworker
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I remember paying my first semester at community college - it was only $3500. I paid for it out my savings. I got half my education for $14,000 and I didn't owe anybody anything. Around then, I knew a lot of people switching schools and "coming home" because they realized how fucked they were after just two years. Some kids realized what was happening as they got a little older. Lots of others did not, at least not until it was too late to change it.
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