I said this a few days ago and people said she shouldn't because it's not a "good look". Meh.
"People that earn more need to pay more. Millionaires like us need to pay our fair share"
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I said this a few days ago and people said she shouldn't because it's not a "good look". Meh.
"People that earn more need to pay more. Millionaires like us need to pay our fair share"
Joe Shlabotnik
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I would peg CNN's noticeable decline starting around 9/11 when they started running a constant news ticker of doom on screen at all times. It was a really long time ago now but I do think they were a lot more.. sedate.. previously.
But it really nosedived when Jeff Zucker took over a few years ago.
On a related note, you should check out CNN.com's "evolution" over the years through archive.org.
I understand not wanting to repeatedly remind everyone that she's rich, but everyone knows it already and in the context of tax reform / income inequality it looks selfless. I wouldn't say it every time millionaires come up but it's fine for that purpose.
The funniest part about the Lazio one is that he walked right into it without even realizing how badly he fucked it up.
Veritigo_X
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Maybe there are some posting among us :O
balladofwindfishes
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Speaking of which, Hillary should say "I'm going to correct the record" and then wink at the camera.
I'd just about die.
User 463088
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Trump actually showed during the debates he didn't have a clue how to deal with Fiorina. And, ya. While there are different expectations for men and women (gross as they are) the people that matter* will not like Trump being a dick. It'll play with his base, but who cares about them.
Hillary needs to stay above it, though. Because too many people are in the "both sides" mindset. She needs to make sure the temperament difference is on full display. That's what her campaign has been building for months. This her time to show those differences in real time. And she knows that.
And Daddy Mook if you're reading this.....hey gurl. Hey.
Hillary needs to stay above it, though. Because too many people are in the "both sides" mindset. She needs to make sure the temperament difference is on full display. That's what her campaign has been building for months. This her time to show those differences in real time. And she knows that.
And Daddy Mook if you're reading this.....hey gurl. Hey.
nature boy
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They're expecting 100 million viewers, but I agree I'm not convinced it's going to be that big.
But hey they think it's PAY DAY.
Exactly. She has said it before. Her "income equality" ad even features a clip of her talking about "her paying her fair share".
Veritigo_X
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That's even better. Especially around the line she has been using recently that "most of the wealth gains have gone to the one percent" cap it with "millionaires like us". Or tie it to the estate tax discussions.
RustyNails
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To be fair, CNN is not a total dumpster fire like many of you are saying. It is still better than msnbc. What you see happen is them trying to chase the DEADHEAT and HORSERACE narrative from time to time, and Jeff Zucker improved the quality of CNN original programming.
Parts Unknown: works as a travel-docu-news commentary with an exceptionally charming host.
Lisa Ling: You get to see sides of America you never paid much attention to.
United Shades of America: Society through the eyes of a black man.
Inside Man: Morgan spurlock doing his Supersize me stuff.
On top of that, they got the reasonably well made programs covering the 60's, 70's, 80's and next year, the 90's. Other original programming segments: Race for the Whitehouse, Holy Hell a new series about presidential losers. This is all Zucker's doing. Whereas you tune into msnbc after 9 you will be greeted with prison lockup stories.
Parts Unknown: works as a travel-docu-news commentary with an exceptionally charming host.
Lisa Ling: You get to see sides of America you never paid much attention to.
United Shades of America: Society through the eyes of a black man.
Inside Man: Morgan spurlock doing his Supersize me stuff.
On top of that, they got the reasonably well made programs covering the 60's, 70's, 80's and next year, the 90's. Other original programming segments: Race for the Whitehouse, Holy Hell a new series about presidential losers. This is all Zucker's doing. Whereas you tune into msnbc after 9 you will be greeted with prison lockup stories.
Finale Fireworker
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User 463088
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Lisa Ling is a national treasure. I loved her show on OWN. I haven't watched her on CNN, though. Her husband's an idiot, but whatever.
Hydrophobic
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I love this account.
Is that parody? I found the article and I'm not even sure.
CNN's original stuff has been fantastic, I just wish the rest of the channel was as good. Honestly, their original stuff is the sort of thing 24-hour news networks should be doing when there isn't breaking news.
Hell if I were in charge I'd set it up like NY1 and have them do a short news brief every hour or so along side specific coverage of things. I mean, it doesn't need to be politics and panels 24/7. Throw in a 40 minute arts show or sports or international news or something to spice it up. There's so much basic news they don't cover that could easily justify their own show.
Like, make it look like this:
Morning Show
News
Short weather update
Arts/Movies
Newsbrief/weather
Sports (timed for lunch)
Newsbrief/weather
Politics
Newsbrief/weather
Business
Newsbrief/weather
Politics
AC360
Don Lemon
Shit, even with the diversity there's still a ton of political crap.
Aaron Strife
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Third poll in as many days to show Clinton up 6 against the full field. Two up 7 in the head to head (AP still had it at 6).
Marist also has Democrats up 4 in the generic ballot.
Hopefully this marks a return to the baseline being a 6-8 point lead and the states follow suit. Ahead of the debate that's not a bad place to be.
Marist also has Democrats up 4 in the generic ballot.
Hopefully this marks a return to the baseline being a 6-8 point lead and the states follow suit. Ahead of the debate that's not a bad place to be.
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nature boy
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If turnout matches or exceeds (latinos) 2012, those look like a realistic outcome.
LOL
https://mobile.twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/779288660067823616/video/1
Effective. Trump's misogyny is so... venomous. It'll be fitting when hopefully Hillary beats him very decisively in November.
Effective. Trump's misogyny is so... venomous. It'll be fitting when hopefully Hillary beats him very decisively in November.
That's basically post convention levels. I doubt it's actually that high, but i do love seeing the polls back up.
Also, if any of the Clinton team are reading this thread, get working g on those 30min primetime infomercials. Use that sweet, sweet money wisely.
for the presidential debates, do the candidates know the questions ahead of time?
my friend is trying to say Hillary can only read off teleprompters and that's all she used in the Democratic debates... pretty sure he's wrong as how would they have prepared answer ahead of time?
my friend is trying to say Hillary can only read off teleprompters and that's all she used in the Democratic debates... pretty sure he's wrong as how would they have prepared answer ahead of time?
No, that's...that's not even close to reality. Where the hell does this even come from?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If he goes into this with the mindset of "Hey, it won me the primary," there aren't enough LOLs in the world.
lol you don't read off teleprompters in debates
nature boy
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No, they do not know the questions in advance, although they can make educated guesses based on current and more reported events.
That's what normal campaigns do - prep, mock debates, debate coaching.
Except Trump cause he's perfect.
This feels like a reversion to where we were back when the focus was on Trump and not Clinton. This seems to sort of be about where the electorate is, until the Trump campaign manages to shift the focus to some Clinton controversy and the media decides to pretend that having a charitable organization that might have some nebulous unprovable influence on the SoS is as bad as calling Mexican's Rapists or using money from your family foundation to pay legal bills.
Dubbedinenglish
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Only thing candidates are allowed is a small notepad to write on during the debate.
Your friend is wrong. Hillary is a pretty decent debater. I would say that in a lot of cases, she got the better of Obama in debates. Obama got much better at debating towards the end and may have passed her late in the 08 primary, but she is absolutely not a slouch.
Just remember: Hillary actually knows world leaders, actually knows and has been involved in foreign and domestic policy and has spent all of her adult life talking one on one to average voters. The "shrill unlikable" Hillary that is often presented is a strawman propped up by right wing news radio. She is actually pretty likable and affable in person and does a fucking great job of connecting with voters one on one.
She will absolutely slay in the town hall setting especially, where Trump will probably insult a few minorities on national TV.
She could walk in cold and destroy him on the basis of knowing what she is talking about and not cramming into memory the names of a handful of world leaders 15 minutes before the debate starts. Throw in Batman levels of prep time on that shit, and she has this on lockdown.
The only thing Trump has going for him is he is being graded on a scale because most people expect him to call her a bitch or take a swing.
I will absolutely not be watching debates live
Can't handle it
Gaf live freak out is all I need
Can't handle it
Gaf live freak out is all I need
I need to pm him some very relevant questions
He can lower them all he wants. He's going to say the next day he won and the system was rigged regardless.
teruterubozu
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Debate analysis is always wacky anyway. I never agree with the media the day after when they choose "winners" and "losers". We can say slay this and slay that, but there's never any objectivity in these things.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
To play the other side here, though, Nate Silver (yes, I know) brought up a good point--Trump's team is pretty crafty. Perhaps these stories are being leaked purposely to lower expectations in the media and public.
I'm still putting money on him calling her a bitch. Hell, I want that to be a poll on the debate thread.
What faux pas do you think Trump will commit:
1. Call Hillary a Bitch/other sexist comment
2. Denigrate Muslims
3. Insult Veterans and/or Medal of Honor recipients and/or their families
4. Talk about the size of his penis
5. "Slavery wasn't so bad..."
6. "Obama was not born in the US"
7. Expose his mob ties
Hmm, would be a good trap for certain. Hopefully Hillary and her team have taken that into account as well.
balladofwindfishes
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Trump has not once in the year of his campaign shown any hidden latent ability to debate like a grown up. Everything "leaked" so far sounds spot on to how we know Trump prepares for things.
If he calls her a bitch, we'd have to drink a gallon of booze each
Do you want us to die
Here is how debate "analysis" goes.
1) Right after the debate they talk about how it went well for both of them and hem and haw about why maybe the underdog really helped themselves with the American electorate and that both candidates are happy with how the debate came. They'll talk about how Trump elevated himself to presidential just by holding his own on the stage with a former first lady/Senator/SoS.
2) Then the snap polls will come out 30-45 minutes after the end of the debate and they'll all pretend that they thought what the polls said happened the entire time and ignore their own analysis from 5 minutes prior.
Maybe but I still don't see Trump actually doing the prep work. Hillary definitely shouldn't be overconfident. But just look at Trump and how busy he is. He somewhere different every day holding a rally. I just don't see where he has time to prep.
Oh yea, we also need to set up a drinking game for the debate!
Fun ringer article
https://theringer.com/presidential-debates-are-not-on-the-level-b85266ea53fa#.fjb52xjoo
Also, note about predictive modeling in 2012 vs 2016
https://theringer.com/presidential-debates-are-not-on-the-level-b85266ea53fa#.fjb52xjoo
Also, note about predictive modeling in 2012 vs 2016
ItWasMeantToBe19
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IDK, this seems as close as possible to saying "yes, we are definitely a white supremacist party."
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