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PoliGAF 2016 |OT14| Attention NV shoppers, democracy is on sale in aisle 4!

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jiggle

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looks like mook likes jon ralston as much as we do!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXd8ZrP8H6Y
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Right now its like a basketball game where the favorite was up 20 points at the end of the third quarter but the other team went on a run in the fourth to get it down to 10 with 2 minutes to go. They got to pitch a shutout to have a chance at winning and all the favorite has to do is get a basket or two.

I watch too much basketball
 

Amir0x

Banned
I've begun compiling a list of Donald Trump's corruption after some encouragement. I've got more links, but let me know if I'm missing any major ones. There are so many sexual assault allegations that will take a lot of time to put em all in, so I am working on that too.

The Early Years: 1970s-1990s:

● 197X: The Jessica Leeds Sexual Assault Scandal - "He was like an Octopus."
● 1973: The New York Trump Housing Discrimination Scandal - Regularly gave rentals to white folk, turned away blacks.
● 1980-Present: The Refuse to Pay Contractors/Workers Scandal - Hundreds allege Trump would outright refuse to pay them even after work was done to exact specifications.
● 1981: The Trump Tenant Intimidation Scandal - Cut off heat, water, refused repairs to try to get rent controlled tenants out. Mushrooms literally grew in an apartment from leaks.
● 1986: Antitrust Violations - Fined $750,000 for failing to disclose purchase of stocks made with intent to take control of a company.
● 1988-Present: Trump Foundation Scandal - Used the "charity" as an extension of a personal bank, purchasing portraits of himself, fixing fountains at his own resorts, paying off his own legal fees.
● 1989: Ivana Rape Scandal - "According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’" Trump's lawyer defense? You can't rape your wife.
● 1990: The Trump Casino Chip Scandal - Fined $30,000 when his father illegally entered casino and purchased 3.3 million in chips and gave it to his son as a bailout for his shitty business practices. Since he didn't intend to gamble, it was determined to be a loan and he was fined.
● 1990-?: The Tax Loophole/Avoidance Scandals - Bent tax laws beyond all recognition, ensuring he left investors with his debt, avoided paying taxes for potentially twenty years.
● 1991: The Robert LiButti Mafioso Scandal - Paid $200,000 fine for arranging to keep black employees away from Robert LiButti's gambling table. Paid another $450,000 fine for buying LiButti nine luxury cars.
● 1992: The American Dream Beauty Pageant Scandal - Deprived of $250,000 Fee, Rampant Misogyny and Unwanted Sexual Advances
● 1994: The Jeffrey Epstein/13 Year Old Jane Doe Rape Scandal - "Trump “proceeded to forcibly rape her.”
● 1997: The Teen Beauty Pageant Scandal - Abused his power to walk through the dressing room filled with nude underage girls. Said he has "seen it all before."
● 1998: The Cuban Embargo Scandal - Spent $68,000 in Cuba in violation of federal law through a shell company
● 1999: The Illegal Immigrant Model Scandal - Used Undocumented Immigrants for his modeling agency "It was like modern-day slavery."

The Later Years: 2000-2016:

● 2001: The Miss America Beauty Pageant Scandal - Repeatedly walked into the dressing room while contestants were nude, bragged about abusing his power to do it on Howard Stern
● 2003: The Mindy McGillivray Sexual Assault Scandal - "‘Donald just grabbed my ass!’’
● 2005: The Rachel Crooks Sexual Assault Scandal - "They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”
● 2005: The Trump University Scandal - Bilked customers out of $40 million dollars, a complete scam targeting the elderly, uninformed and disenfranchised.
● 2005: Trump Institute Scandal - Promised to "hand pick instructors" and gave his name for use for a clear get rich quick scam.
● 2005: The Access Hollywood Grab Them By the Pussy Scandal - Bragged about sexual assault on microphone, said he could do it because he is famous.
● 2006-2008: E-Mail Gate - Trump repeatedly destroyed e-mails and documents in defiance of a court order for multiple cases against him.
● 2016: The $55,000 Crippled America Book Scandal - Used campaign funds to purchase 5,000 copies of his own book.


I am kind of explicitly avoiding the misogynistic, racist, xenophobic comments because I am not sure that counts as "corruption" so much as being a terrible person, but I'd like opinions on that too.
 
From the failing NYT.

Wut. Why is the FBI taking its cues from a Breitbart editor's book.

Morning Joe in a few hours, "you know, it's like we've been saying this whole time, there's just nothing there, am I right Mika? Haven't we been saying that this whole time?"

Oh who am I kidding, either no one will mention it, or he'll say something about Bill Clinton.
 

Pixieking

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I've begun compiling a list of Donald Trump's corruption after some encouragement.



I am kind of explicitly avoiding the misogynistic, racist, xenophobic comments because I am not sure that counts as "corruption" so much as being a terrible person, but I'd like opinions on that too.

I would say the Alicia Machado situation deserves to be on there, for his continued and deliberate body-shaming of a specific individual across a wide time-span.
 

Killerhertz

Neo Member
Morning Joe in a few hours, "you know, it's like we've been saying this whole time, there's just nothing there, am I right Mika? Haven't we been saying that this whole time?"

Oh who am I kidding, either no one will mention it, or he'll say something about Bill Clinton.

"Bill Clinton, craziest thing in the world he says"
 
I've begun compiling a list of Donald Trump's corruption after some encouragement. I've got more links, but let me know if I'm missing any major ones. There are so many sexual assault allegations that will take a lot of time to put em all in, so I am working on that too.

The Early Years: 1970s-1990s:

● 197X: The Jessica Leeds Sexual Assault Scandal - "He was like an Octopus."
● 1973: The New York Trump Housing Discrimination Scandal - Regularly gave rentals to white folk, turned away blacks.
● 1980-Present: The Refuse to Pay Contractors/Workers Scandal - Hundreds allege Trump would outright refuse to pay them even after work was done to exact specifications.
● 1981: The Trump Tenant Intimidation Scandal - Cut off heat, water, refused repairs to try to get rent controlled tenants out. Mushrooms literally grew in an apartment from leaks.
● 1986: Antitrust Violations - Fined $750,000 for failing to disclose purchase of stocks made with intent to take control of a company.
● 1988-Present: Trump Foundation Scandal - Used the "charity" as an extension of a personal bank, purchasing portraits of himself, fixing fountains at his own resorts, paying off his own legal fees.
● 1989: Ivana Rape Scandal - "According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’" Trump's lawyer defense? You can't rape your wife.
● 1990: The Trump Casino Chip Scandal - Fined $30,000 when his father illegally entered casino and purchased 3.3 million in chips and gave it to his son as a bailout for his shitty business practices. Since he didn't intend to gamble, it was determined to be a loan and he was fined.
● 1990-?: The Tax Loophole/Avoidance Scandals - Bent tax laws beyond all recognition, ensuring he left investors with his debt, avoided paying taxes for potentially twenty years.
● 1991: The Robert LiButti Mafioso Scandal - Paid $200,000 fine for arranging to keep black employees away from Robert LiButti's gambling table. Paid another $450,000 fine for buying LiButti nine luxury cars.
● 1992: The American Dream Beauty Pageant Scandal - Deprived of $250,000 Fee, Rampant Misogyny and Unwanted Sexual Advances
● 1994: The Jeffrey Epstein/13 Year Old Jane Doe Rape Scandal - "Trump “proceeded to forcibly rape her.”
● 1997: The Teen Beauty Pageant Scandal - Abused his power to walk through the dressing room filled with nude underage girls. Said he has "seen it all before."
● 1998: The Cuban Embargo Scandal - Spent $68,000 in Cuba in violation of federal law through a shell company
● 1999: The Illegal Immigrant Model Scandal - Used Undocumented Immigrants for his modeling agency "It was like modern-day slavery."

The Later Years: 2000-2016:

● 2001: The Miss America Beauty Pageant Scandal - Repeatedly walked into the dressing room while contestants were nude, bragged about abusing his power to do it on Howard Stern
● 2003: The Mindy McGillivray Sexual Assault Scandal - "‘Donald just grabbed my ass!’’
● 2005: The Rachel Crooks Sexual Assault Scandal - "They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”
● 2005: The Trump University Scandal - Bilked customers out of $40 million dollars, a complete scam targeting the elderly, uninformed and disenfranchised.
● 2005: Trump Institute Scandal - Promised to "hand pick instructors" and gave his name for use for a clear get rich quick scam.
● 2005: The Access Hollywood Grab Them By the Pussy Scandal - Bragged about sexual assault on microphone, said he could do it because he is famous.
● 2006-2008: E-Mail Gate - Trump repeatedly destroyed e-mails and documents in defiance of a court order for multiple cases against him.
● 2016: The $55,000 Crippled America Book Scandal - Used campaign funds to purchase 5,000 copies of his own book.


I am kind of explicitly avoiding the misogynistic, racist, xenophobic comments because I am not sure that counts as "corruption" so much as being a terrible person, but I'd like opinions on that too.

You forgot the scandal that just happened. He isn't paying his pollster an owed $750,000.
 

Debirudog

Member
You can name several good things that Clintons have done whereas you can name more crimes that Trump has commited. What the fuck do these people have to go through their minds to even equivalate the two.
 

Amir0x

Banned
You can name several good things that Clintons have done whereas you can name more crimes that Trump has commited. What the fuck do these people have to go through their minds to even equivalate the two.

This all started when my mind cracked at the millionth "both sides same" accusation and I went in on diablos. Then everyone liked my sampler and I thought I'd provide a format everyone can pick through to end the argument once and for all.
 

Dany

Banned
Why was everyone wearing purple on CNN??


Literally every CNN panelist wore purple on ac360. And don lemon!!!! Wtf lol
 

chadskin

Member
The FBI never asked Hillary Clinton's top aides to turn over all the computers and smartphones they used while Clinton was secretary of state, an omission that is now triggering questions from Republican lawmakers.

While the FBI made a concerted effort to obtain all the computers that were used as Clinton's private server and ultimately asked two of Clinton's lawyers for laptops used to review her email messages, investigators never requested or demanded all equipment her top staffers used for work purposes during her four years at State, a source familiar with the investigation told POLITICO.

"No one was asked for devices by the FBI," said the source, who requested anonymity.

The decision left the FBI at least partially dependent on the aides' attorneys' decisions about which messages were work-related and therefore might have contained classified information the agents were looking for. Those messages were turned over to State in response to its request last year.

GOP lawmakers say the decision not to demand the aides' electronics, or even to ask for them, raises doubts about how the FBI and prosecutors handled the probe.

"The more we learn about the FBI’s initial investigation into Secretary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a private email server, the more questions we have about the thoroughness of the investigation and the administration’s conclusion to not prosecute her for mishandling classified information," House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) told POLITICO on Tuesday.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/fbi-hillary-clinton-devices-230592#ixzz4OnrjYzpl

Wow.
 
Baked in. Back in August polls showed something life 60% were tired of the email stories

Brand new poll that shows 55-60 percent think it's important to discuss while the rest say it's a distraction. It was the yougov or surveymonkey one.

It doesn't even matter what the story is. Just the tone of coverage in terms of positive versus negative has an impact on any candidate, I don't care who they are.
 

Amir0x

Banned
He loses some but they come back when the attention shifts to how much Clinton sucks. The problem is that this last round of this stupid cycle is pointed completely at Clinton and time is about to run out.

There really is virtually no chance he wins. Relax. Polls show the same thing still.

We should just be concerned about the Senate.
 

daedalius

Member
How can people continue to care about this fucking personal email server? It's such bullshit too considering they never once mention the fact the Bush administration "lost" millions of emails.

I just don't give a shit about emails anymore, I'm so tired of hearing about them, and continue to be appalled it's a legit line of attack for some people.
 
There really is virtually no chance he wins. Relax. Polls show the same thing still.

We should just be concerned about the Senate.

I would LOVE to be wrong but I got a feeling we are going to get a real ugly number from Wisconsin tomorrow. Also, I have no faith in these crappy daily trackers not to keep being volatile.
 

Loudninja

Member
How can people continue to care about this fucking personal email server? It's such bullshit too considering they never once mention the fact the Bush administration "lost" millions of emails.

I just don't give a shit about emails anymore, I'm so tired of hearing about them, and continue to be appalled it's a legit line of attack for some people.
You and everyone else no one cares at this point.

GOP take makes every new thing dull withing a week.
 

TheFatOne

Member
I would LOVE to be wrong but I got a feeling we are going to get a real ugly number from Wisconsin tomorrow. Also, I have no faith in these crappy daily trackers not to keep being volatile.
Bam bam do what I did to clear your mind. Play around with a map and try to realistically make a map where trump wins.Then, take a step back and think about what exactly Trump has to do within the next week to win. When I did that a while ago that's when I became super confident about this upcoming Tuesday. With voters already casting votes I realized just how unlikely it is He's going to win. Clinton needs a catastrophic event to lose right now. A real scandal like Watergate.
 

rjinaz

Member
CNN pushing that polls are getting closer and Trump could win thanks to the emails.

I stopped watching CNN completely. I say this as a person that was watching them daily. Until they move on from their email agenda, or until they can show Hillary committed a crime and it's worth covering, I'm not interested in watching their channel. The Trump surrogates were bad enough, but at the very least, I could see the point of them. This is just too much though. I wish more people would tune them out. Might give them a hint.
 

Rran

Member
I've begun compiling a list of Donald Trump's corruption after some encouragement. I've got more links, but let me know if I'm missing any major ones. There are so many sexual assault allegations that will take a lot of time to put em all in, so I am working on that too.

● 2016: The $55,000 Crippled America Book Scandal - Used campaign funds to purchase 5,000 copies of his own book.
Don't forget when he jacked up the rental prices for his campaign staff:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-rent_us_57bba424e4b03d51368a82b9?o9ix30du10s5rk9
 
Trump matched his all-time high in the LAT tracker update. The last time the number was like this was during the pneumonia fiasco.

It's a crap tracker but the movement can't be totally baseless. If he gets some better numbers from IBD/TIPP and ABC he could be leading the RCP average.
 
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